Flynn in major trouble for speaking to Russia about sanctions

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Trump signed letter of intent for Trump Tower Moscow project despite Giuliani insisting he didn't


https://www.cnn.com/2018/12/18/polit...cow/index.html

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Alan Dershowitz ruthlessly mocked after his pro-Flynn talking points get destroyed at sentencing hearing

Twitter users piled on legal scholar Alan Dershowitz who insisted that lying to federal investigators isn’t a crime.

Dershowitz wrote, “The media is asking the wrong question about the Michael Flynn case.

They are asking whether Flynn lied or the FBI acted improperly, as if the answers to those two questions are mutually exclusive.

The possibility that both are true, in that Flynn did not tell the truth and that the FBI acted improperly,

is not considered in our hyper partisan world where everyone, including the media,

chooses a side and refuses to consider the chance that their side is not perfectly right and the other side not perfectly evil.”

“The FBI knew the truth. They had recordings of the conversations.

Then why did they ask him whether he had those conversations?

Obviously, not to learn whether he had them but, rather, to give him the opportunity to lie to federal agents so that they could squeeze him to provide damaging information against President Trump. “

With Flynn accepting that it was not a “perjury trap” in court Thursday morning, and

conceding he committed a felony,

“Sounds like the interactions between Judge Sullivan, Michael Flynn, and his lawyer

amount to a step-by-step demolition of the Hannity/Strassel/Dershowitz talking points,”

https://www.rawstory.com/2018/12/ala...e+Raw+Story%29

I wonder who's paying D to self-destruct his career?

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‘This judge don’t play’: Former FBI agent says Trump should be quaking after Flynn judge’s rebuke

Former FBI special agent Asha Rangappa was stunned by Judge Emmet Sullivan’s brutal rebuke of former national security adviser Michael Flynn during his sentencing hearing — and

she said it should send chills down the spine of President Donald Trump.

"You don’t make those kinds of claims in a court do ent that’s alleging serious malfeasance, misconduct by the FBI that calls into question your plea deal…

and then not expect the judge to… question you about it and then, when you backtrack, to get understandably upset.”

Rangappa then turned to what Judge Sullivan’s smackdown of Flynn meant for Trump — and it was similarly not good.

“This is a very serious crime,” she said.

“And I think that… should worry everyone who’s in the cross-hairs of this investigation.”

https://www.rawstory.com/2018/12/jud...judges-rebuke/

[ElNono]

Flynn and the Twitterazi tired of winning, tbh

[Trill Clinton]

[Trill Clinton]

Guliani said trump never signed the letter, he lied

Trump signed letter of intent for Trump Tower Moscow project despite Giuliani insisting he didn't

(CNN) — A newly obtained do ent shows President Donald Trump signed a letter of intent to move forward with negotiations to build a Trump Tower in Russia, despite his attorney Rudy Giuliani claiming on Sunday the do ent was never signed.

CNN's Chris Cuomo obtained a copy of the signed letter of intent that set the stage for negotiations for Trump condominiums, a hotel and commercial property in the heart of Moscow. The letter is dated October 28, 2015, and bears the President's signature.
When asked on Sunday about the letter, Giuliani incorrectly told CNN's Dana Bash that it had not been signed.

"It was a real estate project. There was a letter of intent to go forward, but no one signed it," Giuliani told Bash.

The non-binding do ent is also signed by Andrey Rozov, owner of I.C. Expert Investment Co., the Russian firm that would have been responsible for developing the property.

READ: How Trump Tower fits into Russian interference
Trump did not tell the public during the 2016 presidential campaign that his company explored the business deal with Russia and instead repeatedly claimed he had "nothing to do with Russia." But the project, which was ultimately scrapped, would've given Trump's company a $4 million upfront fee, no upfront costs, a percentage of the sales and control over marketing and design. The deal also included an opportunity to name the hotel spa after Trump's daughter Ivanka.
The special counsel's team investigating Russian interference in the 2016 presidential election alleges the deal could have been lucrative for the Trump Organization.
While the potential Trump Tower Moscow deal was on the table, then-candidate Trump was speaking positively about working with Russian President Vladimir Putin and minimizing Russia's aggressive military moves around the world.

Giuliani suggested on Sunday that Trump had spoken with Michael Cohen, Trump's corporate attorney at the time, later than January 2016 about the proposed Moscow project, and said in an interview with ABC that the conversations may have gone as far as toward the end of the general election period.
"According to the answer that he gave, it would have covered all the way up to November of -- covered all the way up to November 2016," Giuliani said, seemingly referencing Trump's written responses to special counsel Robert Mueller.

On Tuesday, Giuliani told CNN that the question to Trump from Mueller was more generally asking if Trump talked to Cohen about the project. The question was not about specific dates or conversations, Giuliani said.

CNN previously obtained a draft of the letter that Trump eventually signed. In 2017, Cohen told congressional committees investigating Russian interference in the 2016 election that Trump had signed the letter. Donald Trump Jr. also testified to Congress that his father signed the letter of intent.

Last week, Cohen was sentenced to three years in prison for crimes that included arranging payments during the 2016 presidential election to silence women who claimed affairs with Trump. Trump has denied the affairs.

CNN's Gloria Borger, Marshall Cohen, Dana Bash and Eli Watkins contributed to this report.

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Rudy Giuliani Cries ‘Bullsh*t’ After Being Corrected On Trump’s Letter of Intent for Moscow Tower

https://www.mediaite.com/online/rudy-giuliani-cries-bullsht-after-being-corrected-on-trumps-letter-of-intent-for-moscow-tower/



Was Trash's signed letter fake news?

[spurraider21]

just gonna thank techno fog for more self own. missed this one from yesterday

muh 302's
muh exculpatory evidence
muh brady violation

so many crackpot theories struck down in such a short period of time

[TSA]

just gonna thank techno fog for more self own. missed this one from yesterday

muh 302's
muh exculpatory evidence
muh brady violation

so many crackpot theories struck down in such a short period of time

What’s even funnier is how you avoid talking about the Russian collusion theory being struck down

muh Russia

[Chucho]

[Pavlov]

What’s even funnier is how you avoid talking about the Russian collusion theory being struck down

muh Russia

Eh, Flynn was too busy being bought by Turkey to collude with Russia. Remember he was the lowest hanging fruit out there.

Do you still think there are other 302s out there, TSA?

Yes or no.

[ElNono]

What’s even funnier is how you avoid talking about the Russian collusion theory being struck down

muh Russia

tbh, you still have a chance of earning a W on that one. For this one, just take the L and charge it to da game...

[spurraider21]

What’s even funnier is how you avoid talking about the Russian collusion theory being struck down

muh Russia

this thread is about flynn being in trouble for talking to russia about sanctions. he pled guilty for lying to the FBI about talking to the russian ambassador about sanctions.

and you've been predicting the charges to be dropped or his plea to be invalidated/withdrawn for a number of reasons relating to prosecutorial misconduct. what are your current thoughts on that position, TSA?

[TSA]

Eh, Flynn was too busy being bought by Turkey to collude with Russia. Remember he was the lowest hanging fruit out there.

Do you still think there are other 302s out there, TSA?

Yes or no.

Ptienka’s 302 was either filed under seal or not turned over. Hasn’t been released to the public yet so it’s unkown.

There is also a letter from the DIA that is said to have exculpatory evidence that hasn’t been produced. Grassley has been asking for it since August.

https://mobile.twitter.com/RepMarkMe...794753/photo/1

When the dust settles and Flynn finally is able to speak I think there’s a good chance you’ll be wrong about Flynn being bought by Turkey.


Have you completely abandoned muh Russia yet? Are you still pushing Cohen in Prague even though your boy Isikoff has abandoned it?

[TSA]

this thread is about flynn being in trouble for talking to russia about sanctions. he pled guilty for lying to the FBI about talking to the russian ambassador about sanctions.

and you've been predicting the charges to be dropped or his plea to be invalidated/withdrawn for a number of reasons relating to prosecutorial misconduct. what are your current thoughts on that position, TSA?

bull .

link me to the thread about Russian collusion then

[TSA]

tbh, you still have a chance of earning a W on that one. For this one, just take the L and charge it to da game...

muh Russia is the only one that matters tbh

[Pavlov]

Ptienka’s 302 was either filed under seal or not turned over. Hasn’t been released to the public yet so it’s unkown.

Or it doesn't exist. Funny that Sullivan didn't say anything about do ents not being turned over to him.

What proof do you have there is a 302 that wasn't turned over?

There is also a letter from the DIA that is said to have exculpatory evidence that hasn’t been produced. Grassley has been asking for it since August.

https://mobile.twitter.com/RepMarkMe...794753/photo/1

What possible evidence from the agency that couldn't stand Flynn would exonerate Flynn, TSA?

When the dust settles and Flynn finally is able to speak I think there’s a good chance you’ll be wrong about Flynn being bought by Turkey.

Uh, Turkey paid Flynn over half a million dollars.

How is that not being bought by Turkey.

Have you completely abandoned muh Russia yet? Are you still pushing Cohen in Prague even though your boy Isikoff has abandoned it?

That's not the only Russia angle, princess.

I am completely comfortable with being wrong about a Prague meeting.

It's not like I said Democrats were running a child sex ring in the basement of a pizza parlor.

[TSA]

this thread is about flynn being in trouble for talking to russia about sanctions. he pled guilty for lying to the FBI about talking to the russian ambassador about sanctions.

and you've been predicting the charges to be dropped or his plea to be invalidated/withdrawn for a number of reasons relating to prosecutorial misconduct. what are your current thoughts on that position, TSA?

My current and previous thoughts are that Flynn lied for a reason unknown at this point.

[Pavlov]

muh Russia is the only one that matters tbh

No, TSA. Your many embarrassing conspiracy fails here matter.

[Pavlov]

My current and previous thoughts are that Flynn lied for a reason unknown at this point.

What possible unknown reason, TSA?

You're just making up now.

[ElNono]

What does ‘Flynn being able to finally speak’ means? He had a 1 on 1 chat with the judge, and AFAIK there’s no gag order preventing him from speaking out...

[spurraider21]

What does ‘Flynn being able to finally speak’ means? He had a 1 on 1 chat with the judge, and AFAIK there’s no gag order preventing him from speaking out...

Judge straight up asked if they thought there was additional exculpatory evidence that they believe exists and has been withheld. They said no.

[spurraider21]

bull .

link me to the thread about Russian collusion then

aight. Point taken. But we’ve specifically been discussing the Flynn proceedings here and it’s just funny seeing you try to shift the topic away from that.

[spurraider21]

My current and previous thoughts are that Flynn lied for a reason unknown at this point.

Meant what are your thoughts on the status of his guilty plea and the legal proceedings associated therewith

[Pavlov]

Flynn lied about his contacts with Russia because he had already told the same lie to administration officials and to the press.

Dude simply thought he could get away with it.

The real question is this: Why did Trump and everyone around Trump lie about Russia?