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    No, it's lying to the FBI.

    Why are you making with the straw man, Darrin?

    "During the interview, the FBI agents gave the defendant multiple opportunities to correct his false statements by revisiting key questions. When the defendant said he did not remember something they knew he said, they used the exact words the defendant had used in order to prompt a truthful response. "

    "Don't remember"

    Works for Comey.

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    "During the interview, the FBI agents gave the defendant multiple opportunities to correct his false statements by revisiting key questions. When the defendant said he did not remember something they knew he said, they used the exact words the defendant had used in order to prompt a truthful response. "

    "Don't remember"

    Works for Comey.
    totally. no way he's gonna plead guilty.

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    "During the interview, the FBI agents gave the defendant multiple opportunities to correct his false statements by revisiting key questions. When the defendant said he did not remember something they knew he said, they used the exact words the defendant had used in order to prompt a truthful response. "

    "Don't remember"

    Works for Comey.
    Works for the federal court system.

    Works for Flynn.

    Doesn't work for Darrin.

    Why does it no work for you, Darrin, after Flynn admitted to lying to the FBI in open court after admitting it in a plea?

    State your case.

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    But, for FBI agents, lying goes by the euphemism "lack of candor".

    McCabe fired for this

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    The judge made a statement he had to walk back. The questions came after.

    “I made a statement about Mr. Flynn acting as a foreign agent while serving in the White House.”
    Stop moving the goalposts, we were talking about treason... the point being that the sole reason the judge didn’t simply sign off in the plea deal is simply because he deems Flynn’s crime serious enough to warrant further collaboration, at the very least.

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    Works for the federal court system.

    Works for Flynn.

    Doesn't work for Darrin.

    Why does it no work for you, Darrin, after Flynn admitted to lying to the FBI in open court after admitting it in a plea?

    State your case.

    I suspect he was either going bankrupt, or they had something on his son.

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    But, for FBI agents, lying goes by the euphemism "lack of candor".

    McCabe fired for this
    Why are you changing the subject, Darrin?

    We're talking about Flynn and the crimes to which he admitted.

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    I suspect he was either going bankrupt, or they had something on his son.
    Otherwise he would be fighting all the charges?

    What would the strategy be?

    302s?

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    Stop moving the goalposts, we were talking about treason... the point being that the sole reason the judge didn’t simply sign off in the plea deal is simply because he deems Flynn’s crime serious enough to warrant further collaboration, at the very least.

    And that judge has been widely criticized for bringing up "treason".

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    Chris caught in a rut. So strongly influenced by a narrative he can't see it any other way.

    It's kind of hilarious posters think judges and courts must reflect their thoughts and feelings, and are necessarily corrupt if they don't.
    What’s more hilarious is to see the mental gymnastics to go from ‘judge will throw the case’ to ‘judge is wrong’

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    Otherwise he would be fighting all the charges?

    What would the strategy be?

    302s?


    I suspect Mueller's team has deeper pockets than Flynn.

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    And that judge has been widely criticized for bringing up "treason".
    It’s his job to evaluate that:
    1) The charges brought are proper
    2) The plea deal adequately addresses the alleged crimes

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    I suspect Mueller's team has deeper pockets than Flynn.
    I suspect you don't have any legal defense for Flynn's lying about two separate issues; the second time with counsel present.

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    "The do ent also says top government officials had conflicting reports about why the two agents were interviewing Flynn in the first place.

    The committee “received conflicting testimony” from Comey, McCabe, then-Deputy Attorney General Sally Yates and Principal Deputy Assistant Attorney General Mary McCord about the "primary purpose" of the interview, the report states.

    The report claims that these top FBI and Justice Department officials had different answers regarding whether the agents were “investigating misleading statements to the Vice President, which the Vice President echoed publicly about the content of this calls; a possible violation of the Logan Act; or a desire top obtain more information as part of the counterintelligence investigation into General Flynn.”


    What was their goal in interviewing him, when they already had the transcript?

    I think I know

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    "The do ent also says top government officials had conflicting reports about why the two agents were interviewing Flynn in the first place.

    The committee “received conflicting testimony” from Comey, McCabe, then-Deputy Attorney General Sally Yates and Principal Deputy Assistant Attorney General Mary McCord about the "primary purpose" of the interview, the report states.

    The report claims that these top FBI and Justice Department officials had different answers regarding whether the agents were “investigating misleading statements to the Vice President, which the Vice President echoed publicly about the content of this calls; a possible violation of the Logan Act; or a desire top obtain more information as part of the counterintelligence investigation into General Flynn.”


    What was their goal in interviewing him, when they already had the transcript?

    I think I know
    Then spit it out Darrin.

    No one is stopping you.

    What do you say was their goal?

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    It’s his job to evaluate that:
    1) The charges brought are proper
    2) The plea deal adequately addresses the alleged crimes

    None of this explains bringing up "treason"

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    Darrin, are you @drawandstrike?

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    Then spit it out Darrin.

    No one is stopping you.

    What do you say was their goal?

    They went in there explicitly to entrap him on false statements

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    Darrin, are you @drawandstrike?
    Uh, wtf?

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    They went in there explicitly to entrap him on false statements
    Why did he lie to the FBI agents, Darrin?

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    Darrin, are you @drawandstrike?

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    But, for FBI agents, lying goes by the euphemism "lack of candor".

    McCabe fired for this
    Properly so, I think.

    Is that similar to lying about being a Turkish agent and lying about your phone calls to federal investigators?

    Do you think the McCabe case is as serious as what Mike Flynn has pleaded guilty to?

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    They went in there explicitly to entrap him on false statements
    how did they entrap him?

    do you think asking somebody a question is entrapping them to lie?

    do you know what entrapment is?

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