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    None of this explains bringing up "treason"
    Sure it does. He looked at all the interviews and consulted with prosecutors if a charge of treason was not warranted. Prosecution deemed that was not the case.

    The point being that’s his job. They can’t try Flynn again for the same alleged crimes, so the judge’s job is to go through the list of relevant changes and make sure none are missing.

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    man, i remember the good old days when stealth jeff hated trump

    This is when the double standard is going to be laid bare. Trump can't be attacked. Ever. Front runner or not. He is a deeply flawed candidate and they know it. That's why they shriek so loudly whenever anyone starts talking back to Trump. It can't be allowed. Whoever starts to talk back to Trump must be instantly shouted down.

    Trump can attack whoever he wants at will and anybody who fires back at him is 'destroying the GOP' or something. What bull . And it's time to call it what it is: bull .


    http://drawandstrike.blogspot.com/2016/01/the-nikki-haley-rule-ever-since-south.html

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    Do you think the McCabe case is as serious as what Mike Flynn has pleaded guilty to?
    Knowing what Flynn lied about in his phone calls, I'm surprised he lied about it.

    I don't know the intent of either Flynn or McCabe's lies, so it's hard to compare the two. Certainly, one is more "serious" in legal terms.

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    Sure it does. He looked at all the interviews and consulted with prosecutors if a charge of treason was not warranted. Prosecution deemed that was not the case.

    The point being that’s his job. They can’t try Flynn again for the same alleged crimes, so the judge’s job is to go through the list of relevant changes and make sure none are missing.

    Given the information available to the judge (AND PUBLICLY AVAILABLE), there was no excuse to bring up treason.

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    how did they entrap him?

    do you think asking somebody a question is entrapping them to lie?

    do you know what entrapment is?

    Poor choice of words on my part.

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    Knowing what Flynn lied about in his phone calls, I'm surprised he lied about it.
    What did Flynn lie about?

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    Knowing what Flynn lied about in his phone calls, I'm surprised he lied about it.
    It's not so surprising since he told the same lies to the administration and the press.

    Then he decided he was so good at it, he lied about Turkey to DOJ lawyers with his counsel present.

    Dude is a liar.

    What's hard to understand here?

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    Given the information available to the judge (AND PUBLICLY AVAILABLE), there was no excuse to bring up treason.
    Why not? He admittedly lied to federal agents on a NatSec investigation. I get that some of you think the Special Counsel investigation is some sort of weird joke, but it’s not. It’s a serious crime that would involve treason.

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    Why not? He admittedly lied to federal agents on a NatSec investigation. I get that some of you think the Special Counsel investigation is some sort of weird joke, but it’s not. It’s a serious crime that would involve treason.
    Judge lacked some basic facts, such as, Flynn was not a foreign agent when he was national agency advisor.
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    Judge lacked some basic facts, such as, Flynn was not a foreign agent when he was national agency advisor.
    And?

    This wasn't the matter in front of him, so he asked. The prosecutor answered what the other possible charges could have and would not have been.

    How does this change the fact that Flynn lied to the feds multiple times about multiple subjects?

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    The prosecutors said Flynn was exposed in the conspiracy case involving the Turkish agents, presumably that's one reason why he copped to lying.

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    Judge lacked some basic facts, such as, Flynn was not a foreign agent when he was national agency advisor.
    He admitted to lying to federal agents and the VP about conversations with a Russian diplomat.

    It’s easy to sit here and wave the ‘judge didn’t know’ canard, when not only the judge reviewed and made public the do ents, but also went to the extent of asking the defendant if the charges and plea were correct.

    Because ‘Brady’ judge didn’t exonerate, now he’s wrong? Come on

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    Lots of peeps here pretending to speak for Flynn too. Ridiculous.

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    Lots of peeps here pretending to speak for Flynn too. Ridiculous.
    Yeah, the guys who were speaking for him managed to him over good even hinting at the conspiracy theories posters here are pimping.

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    He admitted to lying to federal agents and the VP about conversations with a Russian diplomat.

    It’s easy to sit here and wave the ‘judge didn’t know’ canard, when not only the judge reviewed and made public the do ents, but also went to the extent of asking the defendant if the charges and plea were correct.

    Because ‘Brady’ judge didn’t exonerate, now he’s wrong? Come on

    Judge was wrong and walked back his comment.

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    So you think the judge's faux pas is exculpating for everything Flynn already pleaded guilty to?

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    Seriously still trying to figure out what Darrin is going on about. He's tried all the talking points Flynn's lawyers used to get him in further jeopardy.

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    So you think the judge's faux pas is exculpating for everything Flynn already pleaded guilty to?
    No

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    So what's the problem?

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    So what's the problem?
    "Treason" should never have been brought up.

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    When the judge is trying to measure the plea deal against the redacted wrongdoing?

    Why not?

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    We don't know how serious the redacted is yet.

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    Do you have a problem with a guy being in the ear of a president to be while working for a foreign government?

    I do.

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    Do you have a problem with a guy being in the ear of a president to be while working for a foreign government?

    I do.

    Me too, but he wasnt.

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