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Brian Wright gets a lot of grief on this board, but he's done a fairly solid job considering what he's sent out and what we've gotten back in return. Hope he keeps up the same good work this off season and beyond.
I think that's the play as well. We should know in about a month..
Brian Wright gets a lot of grief on this board, but he's done a fairly solid job considering what he's sent out and what we've gotten back in return. Hope he keeps up the same good work this off season and beyond.
Yeah, the "DEI Hire" crowd is pretty quiet these days . . .
word is he doesn't want to go to Houston. Nothing super credible, but that's what's floating around.
well it's been said they are shopping Cam Johnson and their 2 picks at the end of the round or 1 of them and 1 future draft pick to get another lottery pick in this draft. Now I don't think 14 is high enough, but who knows.why would brooklyn do this
Chinook can you do some maths for us. Say Durant is traded for Keldon, Devin and 14 as out going salary for this upcoming season. How much do the spurs have in space to fill the remaining of their roster, in particularly getting a backup center?
Chinook too busy writing his essays, i am the new cap guy no capspace , 23 mil below the tax line for 10 players.
we'd be over the cap by 11.5 million. The MLE for 14.1 million as well as the Bi-Annual exception for 5.1 million would be available to make more additions. If we use both that would put us under the tax line by about 2 million.
We’d probably just have exceptions. All you did in the trade was swap the players. The money is nearly the same.
I'm trying to figure out the trade scenarios here.
KD makes 54 million next season. If the Spurs renounce all cap holds and hold off the rookie signings, they would be under the cap by about 11 million. From what I understand they have to send out at least 43 million in salary.
Vassell & Keldon: 44.5 million
Vassell & Barnes: 46 million
Keldon, Barnes, Sochan: 43.6 million
Keldon, Barnes, Wesley, Branham: 46.2 million
Vassell, Sochan, Wesley, Branham: 43.8 million
Seems like all of these combinations would work in theory. I don't see the Vassell fit with Phoenix to be honest, but it looks like he almost has to be included to make this work. Is there some type of 3-team magic Wright could work Chinook ?
The specific number the Spurs need to get to is $43,566,887.20 in outgoing salary. I should note that that's not because of cap space. It's because teams below the apron are allowed to take in up to 125 percent of what they send out in salary plus $250,000. So yes, you're correct that each of those salaries combos would work. The Spurs can actually match any max contract in the league without trading either Devin or Keldon if they wanted to or needed to. That would require them basically trading everything that isn't those two, Wemby, Fox and one of Castle or 2 (signed and used as part of the salary). But the Spurs can offer one of the cleanest trade packages possible if they truly needed to.
All else created equal, I'd opt for that second-to-last combination, as keeping Sochan would really help the defense, and Vassell is still one of the more talented players on the team. If Devin were adding legit positive in the deal (like if for example it was 14 and Vassell or 14, Keldon/Barnes and a future first), that's different. Otherwise, I'd want them to try to rehab his value and save his contract for potential future deal down the road.
He's right. I'm currently 79 pages into my essay discussing the similarities between Jane Eyre and the new 3D-printed basketballs.
I haven't actually done a salary sheet for this year yet, but my instinct is that salary space isn't going to be a problem this year. It'd be very hard for them to get under the cap, but they have enough room to make a couple of big acquisitions without threatening the tax. Moving up so far in the lottery hurt their future salary space, and if for some reason they trade the pick, more options open up for them. But that's a good problem to have.
In your scenario, my plan would probably be to either use 38 to draft a center or trade it and some seconds to move into the late-first to grab the center. Then re-sign Bismack to provide a vet with a pulse for the minimum. Then re-sign Mamu to provide depth at both big spots. Finally sign a two-way center in case of injuries. But I'm also a fan of using the MLE on Bobby Portis, who can both play center and play next to Wemby at PF. Then still draft a center at 38 (there are some good project bigs in the second round) and maybe bring back Bismack anyway. The main issue is that the Spurs still need vet wing and guard depth and would only have the LLE and min contracts to do it. Possible, especially with the Spurs looking like a dark-horse if not a legit contender. But these are spots that would likely be out of the rotation, so they might be hard to pitch to a ring-chaser.
Spurs can get Durant EASILY without including any of their top assets (Wemby, 2nd pick, Castle, Fox): excluding 2nd pick, starting draft night they can trade 5 firsts (25 -#14- + 26 + 28 + 30 + 32) + 3 swaps (27 + 29 + 31) + boatload of SRPs (too many to count) + any combination of Vassell / Barnes / Keldon / Sochan / Branham / Wesley / Champagnie. Not saying they should use that, but that's enough ammo for 3 KDs. If the Suns could have landed a comparable offer to that which you listed, he'd be out of Phoenix already.
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That's an overpay.
Considering his age, MLE is about right for year 2 and 3.
Doesn't matter, it's KD and it's beneath him to take a big paycut.
I don't want him, but if we do get him I think offering him another year of max for 26-27 season would be fine.
Wemby's extension starts in 2027, that's when KD would have to take a paycut and he'd be turning 39, not sure how much he'd have left at that point.
He is due for a major injury at any time, may cost him 40 games or even playoff. Would you still throw him that much money?
As I said, I wouldn't trade for him at all, but if it happens he's getting at least another year of max after his current contract.
Yes. We shouldn't trade for him unless he agrees to give us a giant discount on his year 2 and 3 salary. This way we can have enough money to sign other pieces.
This would be the only way we can trade our #14 pick for him.
thanks that's exactly why I was asking. I'd also prefer the Keldon/Barnes/Branham/Wesley package. The only problem with that one is, that we'd have only 8 players under contract with a salary of 164 million.
That would leave us with 23.5 million to fill out the rest of the roster until we get to tax territory. That's 3.35 million per player on average which is virtually impossible since the vet minimum will be 3.6.
Trading into the end of the first round to draft a Fleming or McNeeley in case they fall would be a cheap way to add one player with a salary under 3 million. Maybe sign Riley Minnix. But it's hard to find players who are good and cost less than the minimum, so Vassell has to be included unless we want to pay tax or do some heavy cap gymnastics.
Guys what you think about this trade.
Brooklyn pick 2 and Paul George
Philadelphia pick 14 and Cam Johnson
San Antonio pick 3 and pick 8
The difference in value between picks 2 and 3 is significantly higher than the difference between 8 and 14.
Much higher.
What about Keldon and pick 14 for Vucevic (Contract expire at the end of next season)and pick 12?
There is a HUGE dropoff between 2 and 3, probably as big as between 3 and 8.
Don’t overthink this. Just use #2 and pick Harper.
Vooch is a ing TERRIBLE defender.
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