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    Reading comprehension Fail. Not surprising though
    Second to none would mean Shaq is the best on the squad, numb nuts.

    Shaq scores (12.0), rebounds (6.7), and block shots (1.2). Those are hall of fame numbers compared to Bonner and Dice.
    And? Shaq wouldn't be getting enough run to get those numbers behind Tim, Tiago, and Blair next year. And that's not taking into account the fact that Shaq is a defensive sieve these days (has been for three years).

    There's a reason that Cleveland, even when it thought LeBron was coming back, didn't want him back. There's a reason Phoenix let him go.

    Get a ing clue.

    And like I said, we don't have any small forwards currently under contract for the Spurs for 2010-2011. You're ing about a sixth big when we don't have a first or second small forward.

    And like Marcus said, our interest in Shaq was only to get Tiago to sign on the dotted line.

    I feel sorry for anyone stuck on stupid, like you apparently are.

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    What a delusional mess of a post. Put down the crack pipe. Shaq doesn't replace Duncan at PF, he plays alongside TD.

    It's laughable that you consider an undersized Blair a big man. You don't even no how well Tiago will adapt to the NBA. I thought Pop's system was tough to crack. Just look at RJ's struggles, and yet,. Tiago will make an instant impact.

    RJ will be under contract sooner rather than later barring any S&T.

    The upgrade over Dice is .8 Shaq (1.2) Dice (.4)
    Hey you were the one saying Tim was shot last year defensively. If you think Tim is shot, you clearly haven't seen Shaq play. Shaq of the last two years makes Tim's last year look like DRob in his prime.

    It's laughable you think Shaq would play next to Tim and not be a defensive sieve, and not slow down our offense. Cleveland had to take him out of their games to open up the paint for LeBron, yet you think he'd be an asset here with Tony and Manu running around?

    If Tiago doesn't adapt, we're sunk anyway. We know Shaq is already washed up, so yeah I'd rather give Tiago run than waste it on 354 year old Shaquille O'Neal's fat ass.

    I know RJ will likely be under contract soon. That gives us exactly one SF. And you're still ing about a sixth big, who would at best be fourth in our big man rotation.

    Shaq isn't an upgrade over Dice, unless you want to talk about shot blocking in a vacuum. If you factor in actually being able to rotate on defense, or actually guard someone, Dice is a no brainer.

    Unless you think Shaq's fat ass is going to guard guys like Dirk, Odom, Howard, etc.

    Hey you know what? Maybe we can sign Willis, Perdue, and get DRob to come out of retirement! They'd all contribute about as much as Shaq, and they all had awesome block numbers their last seasons!

    I'm done with this conversation.

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    Shaq is going to Dallas so he can go for the record. He wants to record back to back to back firing of coaches. He got Porter, and Brown and he wants to add Carlisle to his collection too.
    Besides, he wants to teach Ian how to shoot free throws.

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    How did this happen? When did a infinitesimal minority of Spurs fans start to advocate for the laziest fatass this side of T-Park? What the is wrong with you assholes?

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    Well, looks like Dallas just acquired Ty Chandler, so seems Shaq is out of the question for them.

    WojYahooNBA: Charlotte has traded Tyson Chandler and Alex Ajinca to Dallas for Dampier, Matt Carroll and Najera, a league source tells Y! Sports.

    http://twitter.com/WojYahooNBA/status/18457897982

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    even james dolan would laugh at some of y'all's suggestions about shaq

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    Have any of the Shaq advocates actually watched him play since the Miami Heat le run?

    We do not need one of the slowest and oldest players in the league. We need interior defense, not someone that lets guards and bigs fly past him because he is so fat. For every block Shaq gets, he blows the next five pick and rolls for free buckets.

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    Anyone who watched the Tiago press conf can see we need shaq......splitters body is one of a 12year old boy......Hes gonna get pushed all over the place.
    Well Tim also looked like him 10 years ago.

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    http://bleacherreport.com/articles/4...-shaq-alliance



    Nearly a week after the “Decision,” all the buzz still centers on LeBron James.
    Dan Gilbert’s scathing rebuke of his former centerpiece echoes the unspoken feelings of many of his peers, as well as a large segment of angry fans.


    As the Miami Heat intensify their effort to build a team around their core of superstars, the contenders are continuing to stockpile talent for a probable showdown with the newly favored Eastern Conference contender in South Beach.


    The Boston Celtics wasted no time signing former Miami Heat center Jermaine O’Neal. Dallas and Utah are wrangling over once-coveted big man Al Jefferson. The San Antonio Spurs quietly added the best big man in Europe, Tiago Splitter, to their roster.


    Far more intriguing are the whispers of a mutual interest between the future Hall of Famer Shaquille O’Neal and the San Antonio Spurs. When the dust finally settles on the summer of 2010, it might be remembered as the period when the Diesel and the Big Fundamental partnered up to take on all the young guns.


    What would the addition of Shaq mean for the Spurs? Let’s examine the pros and cons of a possible Duncan and Shaq partnership.


    Let’s begin with the assumption that the Spurs are able to re-sign Richard Jefferson.
    The starting lineup for San Antonio could then be Shaq, Duncan, Jefferson, Ginobili, and Parker.
    Shaq would give the Spurs the size in the middle they have been searching for since the days of David Robinson. Unlike Tiago Splitter, Shaq is a veteran of the NBA and knows all of the nuances that separate this league from international basketball. It is this experience that would give O’Neal the nod over the younger Splitter.


    With Shaq manning the post, Duncan would be able to shift to power forward. He would once again assume the role of the weak side defender, a role that he has excelled at over the course of his career.


    This front court tandem, with the addition of Tiago Splitter alongside DeJuan Blair, should instantly improve the team’s rebounding and shot blocking, two areas of concern much of last season.


    From an offensive standpoint, Duncan and Shaq are both excellent back-to-the-basket post players. If they can find a way to co-exist on the block or in a high low set, they should be able to generate a healthy point production between the two of them.


    Both players are excellent passers, either hitting cutters to the basket with pinpoint precision or kicking it out to a spot up shooter off of a double team. If the Spurs wing players are able improve their three point efficiency to the levels seen during their championship years, teams will find it difficult to contain Duncan and O’Neal in single man coverage.


    With Shaq playing alongside Duncan the Spurs should see considerable improvement offensively and defensively.


    Nevertheless, there are some potential pitfalls to this merger.
    Teams that feature up-tempo offenses, like the Phoenix Suns, will be able to exploit the Spurs' transition defense with O’Neal on the court. They could find a measure of success against the Spurs jumbo lineup if they are able to stretch the defense with big men who are able to shoot it from deep, like Dirk Nowitzki, which could create driving lanes for speedy guards.


    The biggest risk facing the Spurs with the duo of Duncan and O’Neal on the court during crunch time would be free-throws. O’Neal shot 49.6 percent from the free throw line last year. Although Duncan shot a respectable 72.5 percent, he was extremely inconsistent when it mattered most.
    Fans could end up watching some very ugly basketball in the closing minutes of the game as the opposing teams implement their “hack a Duncan-Shaq” strategy.


    When the pros are measured against the cons in regards to this potential alliance between two of the greatest big men to play the game, the scales lean considerably in favor of the pros.
    Aside from the basketball aspects, bringing Shaq to San Antonio would be a huge financial incentive. It would most certainly make for “must-see TV.” Among the story lines for the 2010-11 season could be “Shaq’s Last Stand at the Alamo,” “Duncan and Shaq’s Pursuit of Kobe’s Fifth le,” or “King James Foiled by the Old Towers.”


    Due to the unexpected salary cap increase, the San Antonio Spurs were able to solidify their front court with the signing of Matt Bonner and Tiago Splitter. They still have $2.365 million of their MLE to use. More than likely, it is earmarked for Richard Jefferson or another small foward which makes the acquisition of Shaq a long shot.
    Needless to say, Shaquille O’Neal in a San Antonio Spurs uniform would be one of the best stories resulting from the summer of LeBron.

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    Show me the money to sign Shaq

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    Among the story lines for the 2010-11 season could be “Shaq’s Last Stand at the Alamo,” “Duncan and Shaq’s Pursuit of Kobe’s Fifth le,” or “King James Foiled by the Old Towers.”


    Pretty much what we all expect to happen if Shaq does sign with the spurs. A few up but a lot of downs to the signing...

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    It might be Fawlty Towers if they play much together.

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    It might be Fawlty Towers if they play much together.
    I'm guessing Manu can be Manuel.

    Que?

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    Well, looks like Dallas just acquired Ty Chandler, so seems Shaq is out of the question for them.

    WojYahooNBA: Charlotte has traded Tyson Chandler and Alex Ajinca to Dallas for Dampier, Matt Carroll and Najera, a league source tells Y! Sports.

    http://twitter.com/WojYahooNBA/status/18457897982
    And they even reached an agreement with Ian Mahinmi. So that means they can match up with the Lakers size-wise. The Lakers would still beat them, but at least now they have the size to hang with them now. The Mavericks now have 4 7-footers and a 6-11 guy. At the very least, they'll have plenty of big bodies to throw at the Lakers when they play against them.

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    That would be interesting to see Shaq playing alongside Duncan. I would purposely have to watch Spurs games now. I don't buy the Suns would run circles around Shaq Duncan though. You can always sub Shaq out and put Splitter in and play smallball for speed. It's all about flexibility.

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    that would be interesting to see shaq playing alongside duncan. I would purposely have to watch spurs games now. i don't buy the suns would run circles around shaq duncan though. You can always sub shaq out and put splitter in and play smallball for speed. It's all about flexibility.
    +1

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    Anybody that thinks Shaq helps us from a basketball standpoint does not know what they are talking about. That being said, I feel like the window has closed on this team no matter what we do, therefore I would have no problem with getting Shaq just for laughs. At least it will be an entertaining season.

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    I would rather go for Dampier

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    That would be interesting to see Shaq playing alongside Duncan. I would purposely have to watch Spurs games now. I don't buy the Suns would run circles around Shaq Duncan though. You can always sub Shaq out and put Splitter in and play smallball for speed. It's all about flexibility.
    small ball is crap, spurs should be dictating how the game is played not the other way round, thats how spurs loss on most occasions trying to play small ball

    play big and pound it inside, force the other team to play our style, half court grind it out

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    Anybody that thinks Shaq helps us from a basketball standpoint does not know what they are talking about. That being said, I feel like the window has closed on this team no matter what we do, therefore I would have no problem with getting Shaq just for laughs. At least it will be an entertaining season.
    This. Unless Splitter and Anderson turn out to be much more than we expected and Tony and Manu return to 07 form, it's pretty much all academic. Blair and our "yet to be named" SF backup would need to have stellar seasons as well.

    I don't see it all happening at once, but I still don't wanna see Shaq in a Spurs uniform. That's just all "kinds o' wrong".

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    I could see Shaq resenting the young, up and coming Tiago Splitter and letting it show.

    With Splitter trying to adjust to the US and being used to team play and camaraderie in Europe, his confidence might suffer.

    It's a tough call only because Shaq has become a locker room problem the last few years.

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    With the West getting bigger and bigger we better do all we can to sign him..... do a sign and trade with Clev give them a future pick, and some cash....Shaq Splitter TD Blair, Bonner, Dice......you have it all.
    Except a starting or backup small forward.


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    I would be excited if the Spurs got Shaq! However, they have more pressing needs at the moment.

    The back-up SF position needs to be filled. I would be ok with Bell, Butler, and to a less degree...Jones. If J-Ho was healthy, I would be all for him as well! His injury has me concerned and I think he will be a liability in the short-run for us.

    After this has been filled, I would like the Spurs to make a move for Shaq! Of course, he would need to take the minimum (the back-up SF would use the remaining amount of the MLE or vice verca). I think Shaq can provide some good minutes for the team off the bench!!! Although alot of bigs, our rotation would be deep with Duncan, Splitter, Blair, Shaq, McDyess, and Bonner. With this rotation, we have size, defense, rebounding, experience, 3 point shooting (limited), and the luxury if resting Duncan and McDyess throughout the season. Also, we all no know Pop has a short fuse for rookies, so it wouldn't surprise me if he pulls the plug early on Splitter some nights. There is also the fact that he probably will not benefit from foul calls in the NBA during his rookie year and can possibly face foul trouble. Of course, this would probably mean McDyess sees limited minutes if any on most nights. I would be ok with this to keep him fresh for the playoffs.


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    Just play Bonner at Small Forward. He doesn't like to bang in the low post anyways and he's got a nice 3 pt stroke.

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    http://nba-facts-and-rumors.blogs.cb...=headlines;nba



    Scratch that Shaq-to-the-Hawks talk
    Posted on: July 16, 2010 9:44 am
    Edited on: July 16, 2010 9:51 amScore: 142Log-in to rate:Log-in to rate:Log-in to rate:Posted by Royce Young

    Both Michael Cunningham of the Atlanta Journal Cons ution and Brian Windhorst of the Plain Dealer report that it's unlikely Shaq is going to Atlanta in a sign-and-trade. Windhorst says the teams have indeed talked, but just aren't anywhere close to making it happen.

    There was talk earlier in the week that made it sound like the two sides were pretty closed to getting together. But as Cunningham points out, the Hawks don't want to bust the luxury tax and the numbers aren't lining up.

    The Hawks were talked about as a prime destination for Shaq along with Miami, San Antonio and Dallas. Now with the Mavs putting 45 centers on the roster and the Heat spending money on Udonis Haslem, Juwan Howard and others, San Antonio looks to be the destination.

    For shame Shaq isn't headed to the ATL. I just came up with the nickname I liked: The Big Peach.
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