Now Official: Spurs Trade RJ for Stephen Jackson

[coyotes_geek]

Tbh, 2003 Jack isn't a high bar to live up to. He wasn't nearly as good as our memory makes him out to be. We remember those shots against the Nets but he had some really bad games in that playoff run. According to PER and everything else, he graded out as a below replacement level player that year.

Definitely agree that Jack's reputation is inflated. I pretty much see this as a lateral move basketball-wise with a definite positive financially.

[timvp]

I recall that when the Hawks came to SA in November 2003, Pop and Jax had a long embrace and conversation on the floor after the game. My memory is that Pop told the press later that he told Jax, basically, that the door wasn't closed on a return to SA at some point. It struck me then because it fueled some hope that Jax would have come back sooner; but it was also odd because Popovich doesn't usually share those sorts of things with the media and it was extremely complimentary of Stephen Jackson, I thought.

I'm looking for the exact quote.

Good point. Also remember that the Spurs tried to sign Stephen Jackson the next summer before they settled for Brent Barry. All along it sounded like the divorce was due to Jackson's agent (Fegan, IIRC).

[Borosai]

Wow.

[timvp]

I wonder if he still wants that contract extension.

He probably still wants it. And he'll ask for it. But no way the Spurs give it to him. He miiiiight get a one year extension after the season if he performs well.

[Tyrone Jenkins]

Someone doesn't know how old Bowen is.

How old was Bowen when he was traded?

[coyotes_geek]

He was streaky three shooter, and went thru long periods of being a turnover machine. But he developed a good chemistry with Duncan off three pick and roll, which Tiago excels at, played defense and rebounded when the going got tough.

the clutch fourth quarter playoff three's were the overall exception not the rule for the season, but 2007 proved that it can be the rule for his post season play

Careful. As awesome as 2007 playoff Jackson vs. the Mavs was, 2007 playoff Jackson vs. the Jazz was awful.

[Chomag]

cant wait til Jax goes into the locker room and asks "Who's this ginger ?"

[Cant_Be_Faded]

Fair enough, coyote geek, but one good series still improves what we gave up, which is no good playoff games, much less a series

[ace3g]

I guess I can finally update my sig

[polandprzem]

Jack still can be the one who fuchs us up in the playoffs

TO's bad shooting at ude ...

[Mugen]

rofl @ anybody calling this a lateral basketball move for the Spurs.

[will_spurs]

Remember that GS has to tank hard this year to keep their draft pick, so RJ is an obvious choice!

Wait, I just remembered that the Warriors need to tank because they owe a top 7 protected lottery pick. So if they don't tank below that level, they'll lose their lottery pick.

With that in mind, Richard Jefferson is a great way to tank. He'll be sure to make that team suck enough so that the Warriors keep that lottery pick.

Great minds think alike (even though some think faster )

[all_heart]

Jack still can be the one who fuchs us up in the playoffs

TO's bad shooting at ude ...

Hmmm... sounds familiar, but I think this guy just left.

[coyotes_geek]

Fair enough, coyote geek, but one good series still improves what we gave up, which is no good playoff games, much less a series

I agree.

I think the odds of Jackson being able to "find the magic" here aren't all that good, but they're greater than zero. The Spurs traded something that wasn't going to work for something that might.

[Spursfan092120]

Stephen Jackson ‏ @DaTrillStak5
Back where I belong. SA here I come. #hungry #readytoball

ing epic...love the at ude.

[Arcadian]

Look at Jackson's career stats. Between 2004-2011, he averaged at least 18 ppg seven times and at least 20 ppg four times. Obviously, that was partly because of the role assigned to him. He won't average more than 10 with the Spurs because he will always be the third or fourth option in the offense. But that's okay. He is still capable of scoring 18 ppg given the right situation. It would be erroneous to evaluate his success with the Spurs based on stats. It doesn't give an accurate indication. His stats could all drop off, and he could still have a huge impact on the team's success.

[polandprzem]

I agree.

I think the odds of Jackson being able to "find the magic" here aren't all that good, but they're greater than zero. The Spurs traded something that wasn't going to work for something that might.

End of discussion

[JustSpurs]

There is a God!

[bklynspursfan]

Mo Elzaim ‏ @Signandtrades
@talkhoops Stephen Jackson hasn't arrived in SA yet, but he has already mentioned the word "extension" three times
Retweeted by Zach Harper

[benefactor]

Seriously... you all that don't like this. Would you have rather kept RJ? And cot damn...it ing Buckets. Buckets.

Buckets.

[coyotes_geek]

Mo Elzaim ‏ @Signandtrades
@talkhoops Stephen Jackson hasn't arrived in SA yet, but he has already mentioned the word "extension" three times
Retweeted by Zach Harper

He can mention it all he wants, but he's not getting one.

[slick'81]

woke up from a long hangover and have been rewarded fck yeah good bye rj o jax

[Tyrone Jenkins]

At 34 Bowen was beasting on Billups in the NBA finals. Stop this already. It's more of a financial trade. If SJax ever scores a basket for the Spurs it's gravy.

Dude, calm down and use your brain instead of your emotions...

I'm not mad at getting rid of RJ. Let's get that straight. But this trade is NOT a salary dump. If it was, then it would've been smarter to keep RJ and just amnesty his contract at the end of the season. RJ was traded FOR someone, and that someone has a similar salary this year and the next. SJax may or may not be eligible for that same amnesty, but if the Spurs use it, it means the trade was a failure and the Spurs lost a 1st round pick in the process. To further the risk, I understand there's some rule that means SJax, who's reported as injured, must play on the team in a few days to be eligible to play in the playoffs?

Regardless of that, this trade is about making a run for the le. And while I feel as if SJax is a MUCH better fit in the Spurs scheme, there's a REASON why he wasn't resigned by the Spurs in 03 (he was vocally bitter about it as well).

Let's just hope Jax has matured. If I recall, an immature Pao Gasol was upset last year about a rumor surrounding his gf. Lamar Odom is a mess in Dallas. Some guys are just not right chemisty-wise. I'm not sayin SJax is not - as I really hope he is. I'm just mentioning we need to be cautious.

I do hope and pray Pop has got this one...

[Barfunk]

Fanastic ing news

[spurs4real]

Wow back to the Spurs, I know Manu is loving this trade.