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I agree with you, and if not McRoberts, then Frye.
But I don't think Gasol is going to come here so it will be a moot point. Some other contender will offer him more money like Chicago.
I'd be very happy with either.
Has there been any news of interest in McRoberts (from anyone)?
I agree with you, and if not McRoberts, then Frye.
But I don't think Gasol is going to come here so it will be a moot point. Some other contender will offer him more money like Chicago.
I didn't say, 'at all'. But people are misguided in believing that another center is going to help a lot , especially one who's never been a role-player.
I'd rather give Carlos Boozer the MLE than Gasol, and that's saying something.
Sorry but if you have the chance to land Gasol for the MLE, you do it and figure things out later. There's always a place for such a talented player like Gasol in San Antonio.
This is true. I don't think anyone disputes that.
But I think there are better fits, and more likely for the MLE.
If Gasol comes here, I won't complain, I'll be glad.
Another thing, Gasol may be waiting for Melo and James to decide before he decides. If he decides not to come here then the Spurs may lose out on getting one of those better fits like McRoberts or Frye.
I disagree. The Spurs are more sensitive to fit than any other team. It took them years to put together the right pieces. You don't just dive at talent -- especially old talent -- just because it's there. The fact that Gasol is a poor fit overrides his talent, in my opinion, especially considering that Pau can be a locker-room distraction if he's not happy.
Exactly. Also, with Timmy and Gasol, sure the defense is still an issue versus small teams like OKC or Miami. However, Gasol can punish the other team on offense which Splitter can never do (Granted, Splitter is quite good doing PnR with Manu). So the other team may need to adjust to the Spurs first and is forced to go big.
You can't opt out of the MLE it has to be a 3-4 year deal.
No, it doesn't.
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You dive at talent if it's Pau Gasol for the MLE. Pau is poor fit with Duncan, but not the rest of the BIGs. Pop is the master supreme when it comes to sharing minutes and resting. If Pau is willing to come for the MLE, he is probably willing to do anything for Pop in order to win because that would be his goal if he signs for San Antonio for the MLE. In my opinion, his talent easily overrides any kind of poor fit that SA could be afraid.
Still can't imagine Gasol acccepting a bench role, even with the Spurs, tbh..
A lot of people are confusing 2014 Gasol with 2008-2011 Gasol, too..he's not even close to that player anymore..
Getting Gasol this summer is just as much about the post-TD future than next year. I'm sure the Spurs were frank with Gasol when they first approached him, and explained that he'd come off the bench, have to take a lot less money, and compete for minutes on a deep roster; however, if he is able put in the time this year it's very possible that the starting PF/C job is his next year if Duncan retires. Not a bad deal when most other "contenders" are limited offering you the MLE.
I don't think the Spurs are sure TD won't re-up for two more years after next year.
Someone who gets it. Even if it's a longshot, it's an option that Miami and OKC choose not to take by avoiding the tax like the plague.
He's a poor fit next to everyone, except perhaps Diaw. He and Splitter could work, but people underestimate the time it took for Tiago and Tim to develop the necessary chemistry to share the floor. Do you honestly see Gasol and Splitter playing a lot together? I don't.I disagree back
You dive at talent if it's Pau Gasol for the MLE. Pau is poor fit with Duncan, but not the rest of the BIGs. Pop is the master supreme when it comes to sharing minutes and resting. If Pau is willing to come for the MLE, he is probably willing to do anything for Pop in order to win because that would be his goal if he signs for San Antonio for the MLE. In my opinion, his talent easily overrides any kind of poor fit that SA could be afraid.
Ayres sucks as of now, so he doesn't really fit with anybody. Baynes is a center with decent range and mobility, but he's still a center. I don't think he and Gasol would be more than passable.
More importantly, the Spurs would have five centers on their roster and one power-forward (two if you count Anderson, but I don't). That leads to a complete lack or versatility.
There is still a possibility for a multiple team trade where Splitter goes somewhere other than the Lakers.
I'm about 99% sure he won't. The fact that he had to really think about it this year means he may not have to next year.
The last thing I want to see is Tim on an empty tank. That would be sad. I'd just as soon he left somewhere between 1/8 and reserve.
I see it as akin to the Beli signing. People are gushing about talent and value, but it didn't really help the team on the court that much. Difference is, Gasol is an over the hill HoFer who still thinks he's a premiere player and who is known to become a cancer if he doesn't get his way.
"Kupchak acknowledged that elite free agents might have to take pay cuts to fit into the Lakers' cramped salary structure. They have already committed more than $37 million of next season's projected $63-million salary cap to Bryant, Steve Nash, Robert Sacre and rookie Julius Randle, whom they took with the seventh overall pick in Thursday's draft."
By my math that leaves $26 million for them to sign free agents + Gasol. So you have a big fish like Melo/LeBron taking most of that money, say $20 million then Gasol gets the $6 million in crumbs. Or split the $26 million among Gasol and a couple of lesser free agents.
Either way the Lakers end up with 6-7 players and filling out their roster with minimum salary guys. Aside from the minimum salary guys, Lakers roster looks like this:
PG: Nash
SG: Bryant
SF: Melo/LeBron (or two mystery free agents position unknown)
PF: Randle
C: Gasol/Sacre
So a couple of washed up guards, one of the top two SF in the league, a rookie PF and Gasol at center with a project C backing him up.
Given that roster composition and lack of money available for Gasol, seems like slim to none chance he's back with the Lakers next season. I don't see any combination of free agent signings that provide him with a decent mix of money and a chance to win. Even adding Lebron won't get it because that leaves them with ZERO supporting cast outside of the rookie Randle, and extremely thin at every position.
Moreover, besides being a butthole there is no indication Bryant will be back anywhere near his past self if he can even make it through another season.
however, Pau isn't looking for minutes on a rebuilding team, just a ring. I don't think that's a bargaining chip
Not sure about Gasol. His defense sucks and they have Splitter.
The most important thing, is keeping him away from Miami or OKC, tbh. Hate to say it, but his addition to either of those teams put them in nightmare level.
The minutes can work if you take Splitter/Duncan/Gasol/Diaw and divide by 4 to get 24. Diaw can also back up Leonard some while Leonard can also slide to the SG spot some. Teams would probably try to go really small on us but Splitter and Diaw can chase perimeter guys and create mismatches. Gasol/Duncan would be a nice lineup to pound teams playing a traditional PF-C lineup.
Really I think it's in the versatility and Gasol gives us the ability to rest Duncan on those back to back nights as well with no dropoff.
That said, I'd guess Gasol goes somewhere stupid like Chicago, Houston, Miami, or Dallas but in the meantime we can still dream. :-)
Miami is done. They may still be leaders in the East but even if they bring back James, Bosh and Wade, they will need more than 1 piece to get back to winning rings.
So the post-TD future is predicated on what will then be a 35 year old Pau Gasol?
Gasol would be a nice piece on offense, but his D has fallen off a cliff since the championship years making him a huge liability on that end. While I wouldn't be opposed to landing him so teams like OKC and MIA don't develop a more balanced offense, he wouldn't be a difference maker on the Spurs unless he starts playing 5-6 years younger, and there is no indication that's going to happen.
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