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    so is the color of his skin.
    Only to racists.

    You are also privy to the state of mind of the officer in question?

    wow. You should call a press conference.

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    so is the color of his skin.
    Yes so...

    If one has just had a physical confrontation with a store clerk, and then not long after one gets confronted by the police, what might be on one's mind? Besides the color of his skin?

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    same accusation against the cops: they're lying while smearing Brown as a criminal and doper (subtext: murdering him was OK, just another dead n!gg@, WGAF? FPD sure doesn't).
    It was the families pathologist that said he was stoned.

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    Yes so...

    If one has just had a physical confrontation with a store clerk, and then not long after one gets confronted by the police, what might be on one's mind? Besides the color of his skin?
    dunno. why don't you tell me?

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    dunno. why don't you tell me?
    Oh ?

    Possibly?

    Dont play dumb, you can put yourself in a situation and think of possiblities.

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    Yes. So...

    It is however germane to Brown's state of thinking when he got stopped.
    how is it germane? and how would his unknowable state of thinking affect his unknowable behavior?

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    It's reassuring to know that theft and assault (alleged) have become capital crimes susceptible of immediate enforcement.

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    how is it germane? and how would his unknowable state of thinking affect his unknowable behavior?
    oh jesus...

    Courts don't deal with unknowables, they deal with reasonable possibilities.

    So Boutons has just had a physical confrontation with a store clerk. Boots is walking down the street and a police car pulls up. What is a possible thought that might enter boots head?

    Seriously boo, this happens all the time in courtrooms and before during depositions. Don't play stupid.

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    until he gets his day in court, he damn sure is.
    No, no. Presumptions of innocence are quaint and outdated.

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    And yes this is important to know about the confrontation between the cop and Brown. He claims Brown went for his gun.

    Now after that, the shooting at range, I got no clue.

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    Mark Steyn:

    The most basic problem is that we will never know for certain what happened. Why? Because the Ferguson cruiser did not have a camera recording the incident. That's simply not credible. "Law" "enforcement" in Ferguson apparently has at its disposal tear gas, riot gear, armored vehicles and machine guns ...but not a dashcam. That's ridiculous. I remember a few years ago when my one-man police department in New Hampshire purchased a camera for its cruiser. It's about as cheap and basic a police expense as there is.


    Last year, my meek mild-mannered mumsy office manager was pulled over by an angry small-town cop in breach of her Fourth Amendment rights. The state lost in court because the officer's artful narrative and the usual faked-up-after-the-fact incident report did not match the dashcam footage. Three years ago, I was pulled over by an unmarked vehicle in Vermont and (to put it mildly) erroneously ticketed. In court, I was withering about the department's policy of no dashcams for unmarked cars, and traffic cops driving around pretending to be James Bond but without the super-secret spy camera. The judge loathed me (as judges tend to), but I won that case. In 2014, when a police cruiser doesn't have a camera, it's a conscious choice. And it should be regarded as such.


    And, if we have to have federal subsidy programs for municipal police departments, we should scrap the one that gives them the second-hand military hardware from Tikrit and Kandahar and replace it with one that ensures every patrol car has a camera.
    http://www.steynonline.com/6524/cigars-but-not-close

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    Oh ?

    Possibly?

    Dont play dumb, you can put yourself in a situation and think of possiblities.
    Brown scared a cop and deserved to be shot on the spot?

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    oh jesus...

    Courts don't deal with unknowables, they deal with reasonable possibilities.

    So Boutons has just had a physical confrontation with a store clerk. Boots is walking down the street and a police car pulls up. What is a possible thought that might enter boots head?

    Seriously boo, this happens all the time in courtrooms and before during depositions. Don't play stupid.
    Insert Winehole for boo

    If you have not a thought go through your head I can't help you.
    You implied some sort of disability in ascertaining how one might think.

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    dunno. why don't you tell me?

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    see my guess at what you meant, two posts back.

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    :roll eyes

    *shaking head*

    Even TRILL hasn't advanced THAT ridiculous claim...
    didn't feel i had to *shrugs*

    you see in the video, he places money on the counter, grabs a box of cigars and gives them to his friend, his friend puts the box back on the counter. clerk for some reason tries to stop him. you can see what looks like money in the clerks hand. it wasn't serious enough for the owner to report a crime yet y'all are more upset about some cigars than the owner

    chief already admitted there was no report of robbery or theft made at the time of his death. besides, people shoplift all the time and live to tell about it.



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    Brown scared a cop and deserved to be shot on the spot?
    Love these monday morning quarterbacks.

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    so are you, so is everyone. all discussion is after the fact.

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    see my guess at what you meant, two posts back.
    If you seriously don't believe the officers defense team is not going to use what I have posted I can't help you.

    So Brown thought he had scared a cop in a town that has been known for strong armed tactics as the police car approached him? Can we just throw out the word reasonable in the legal system. And let's just get rid of the word motive as others actions and thoughts are unknowable. That should fix our legal system. No trials, we are stuck in a philosophical nightmare. It's quick and easy.

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    If you seriously don't believe the officers defense team is not going to use what I have posted I can't help you.
    I didn't say so, but it wouldn't be surprising.

    Thanks for saying what you mean. I'm not a mind reader. Few of us here are

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    It's reassuring to know that theft and assault (alleged) have become capital crimes susceptible of immediate enforcement.
    I'm pretty sure the officer shot him over the petty theft. That, and he was black.

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    dunno. why don't you tell me?

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    Oh ?

    Possibly?

    Dont play dumb, you can put yourself in a situation and think of possiblities.
    This is what I meant.

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