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Get that sweat in young fella.
Let's see how he performs during the summer league. He's hungry for a role on this team.
Get that sweat in young fella.
Doubtful, knowing Pop. He dislikes Rookies and Murray needs at least a year in the weight room.
I hear how bad his shooting is and decision making is, but the Spurs have the best shooting coach in the business and we have the luxury of being able to teach him and bring him along slowly. I expect he will be spending a lot of time in Austin, so he might as well get his Apartment there.
Plus, as far as the decision making, he'll be able to learn under Tony Parker.
Loving that he's already getting to work. I hope they are already working on his shot and getting the form better. Summer league he can work on his decision making and he can really focus on D during the season especially if he wants to play. Can't stress it enough, how vital it is for him to play summer league in regards to him getting acclimated and having a chance at a role during the season however unlikely it may be. But one of my interests in following our team is the finding of new stars. Happened with Parker, then Ginobili, then Leonard and now hopefully Anderson or Murray. Unlike Anderson though, Murray is an upside pick with great potential. So it's exciting.
get him on det blair plan tbh
He's moving from Washington to South Texas. I think the weight gain plan shouldn't be a problem imo.
Although for the most part those that are better have had a year or two out of the playoffs to make moves for the future rather than trying to maximize the potential for the playoffs. (i.e. OKC last year)
It helps to have mid-seconds to pick players who are good prospects with warts. A late-first is usually a low-ceiling, high-floor guy, and late-seconds are detritus. The Spurs haven't made many trades recently, so that's keeping them from getting those picks.
No, no, it can't be! How can he be good when he is so slow? If you are going to try to confuse the issue with facts then there is no place for you on ST.
The family and I just got back from vacation in San Antonio - and I put on around 7 pounds in just a week. I'm just glad that there are no Whataburgers in Kansas. I have more sympathy for players like Diaw and Blair now.
Actually, the question is how can he be good when his nickname indicates that he's slow.
Yup that's about as much weight as i put on everytime i go back to visit family.The family and I just got back from vacation in San Antonio - and I put on around 7 pounds in just a week. I'm just glad that there are no Whataburgers in Kansas. I have more sympathy for players like Diaw and Blair now.
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A better shooter and he's easily lottery. I think a lot of teams became risk averse. Although some went the opposite way (See Sacramento and the Bucks). Utah, Indiana and Charlotte traded the 12th, 20th and 22nd picks for established players who are far from stars and maybe boderline role players.
The Spurs are probably one of the few teams not turned away by someone with poor shooting. Kawhi, Tony have all improved significantly under Chip.
I would be content if he got his three to league average over the first couple of years which is like 35% and improved his 2ptfgp to like 50% which he can easily do with better decision making. From what I've seen, it's not that his shot is that bad, is his decision making and inconsistency with his shot mechanics. I think if he just shoot better shots and shoot them consistently he might already be average or just below. I mean at Washington he was in a role where he pushed the tempo in transition and had some tough shots that didn't work out and with his handles he took some tougher shots than he had to, because they needed his offense. On the spurs he can play off the ball much of a possession and just bring the ball up to get the offense started. So first step should be just working on his spot up shot, and build from there. He would have plenty of quality looks Just doing this. It's when he runs the offense that his decision making would need some seasoning but we wouldn't need that next year with Parker and Ginobili likely coming back.
You can teach a guy to shoot, but you can't teach him to jump or to grow. It must suck to have a team where you desperately need a draft pick to contribute immediately or you face being fired. The Spurs have gotten to the point where they can get a freshman and treat him almost like a draft-and-stash.
I can see how he fell, or rather, was taken where a lot of people had him slated. ESPN's post draft episode of NBA lockdown had the guard expert respond coolly to the notion that Murray was a steal or only a jump shot away from being awesome.
His analytic numbers were unremarkable to poor. He had I believe the second lowest PER of any college player taken in top 50? He had nice stats in general but slightly inflated from the high pace his team played at, which I think was second highest in the nation. He has a strange shooting stroke where he lands to the side on one foot kicking a leg.
For all his athleticism he's not explosive and is a below the rim player in half court. He has problems finishing shots that weren't floaters iirc, and at his size that isn't desirable. He was an old freshman, 19 in his one year and will be 20 his rookie year. He's clearly light and needs weight added. His dribble looks like it might not translate to open looks as easily as it did in college, combined with his already high turnovers, and his below the rim game, can be a concern. Add in the questions of if he can be a point guard ...
I figure most teams saw a player who had an immature body who needed major work to succeed. The Spurs have proven they can do it with Corey Joseph who was a freshman who needed a lot of work, plus probably not needing Murray to play his first year at least. I guess most teams didn't figure he was worth the hassle.
Good analysis. RC in his interview was explicit stating he didn't think anyone expected him to come in and light our word on fire in his first year (or something of that nature), so it seems like they have a realistic expectation. He was also explicit stating that he's a "development piece" who needs work finishing around the basket, discipline shooting, and with his decision making and more than once mentioned that they liked his youth and the ability to grow. So, he's basically a young player who needs to develop and will require time.
Because he wasn't shooting well (and it wasn't just shot selection because he was at 65% on FT shooting), its not like teams can play him right now off the ball while he develops. He's the kind of guy who, if he develops a shot could look like a terrific steal somewhere down the road, but as he is right now, he was probably fine where he was picked.
Good points all. And Cory Joseph was a McDonald's All American.
I thought he was Canadian.
His highlights do show that he doesn't have the lift and is a below the rim player. His shot also does need work .... all I can say is that he's got a natural feel for the game, but like you said... no lift and bad fundamentals.
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