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Parker isn't even leaving anyway, so it gets even worse. I guess we'll see a lot of Fatty at the 2 again once Porker comes back.
No , right? And at least Calderon can run an offense.
Parker isn't even leaving anyway, so it gets even worse. I guess we'll see a lot of Fatty at the 2 again once Porker comes back.
Yeah, one of the commentators posted about that $6M cap hit last night. All it takes is ignoring the cap hit from his cap hold that was temporary, till they either signed him or let him go.
Sort of like, "My new car only cost $3K, because I traded another one."
And what happens to Murray once Parker comes back? None of Mills/Murray/Parker/Forbes can play the two, which is the guard spot the Spurs desperately need help at, especially with Simmons looking like a coin flip at best for MLE. I have no idea why they never pursued Hayward. I was encouraged by the Iguodala news until the Woj bomb saying the Spurs didn't have much interest and met with him as basically a courtesy.People can say all they want about the "value" of this deal but it makes absolutely no basketball sense. Should've rolled with Murray. At least he'd get to fight through growing pains and speed up his development. If not, a cheap vet would've sufficed. Instead, we're locking up all our past their prime vets who play no D and choke in big games because "culture".
Oh you know they'll be playing the two once Parker comes back.
Hes 27 or 28. Not past his prime.Because he'll be here those four years eating up young players minutes. Either that, or he gets moved because Parker isn't going anywhere until he retires. Either way, this is a redundant move. But who cares if he plays no D and chokes. He "took a discount
And yeah no he is flawed. What are you expecting for $12.5 mill/yr? A star? A great two way player? Those are worth a lot more in today's market, buddy.
No...I'm content. Basketball reasons set us back a decade. We're on year 6
The only way I can defend signing Mills when the SG and PF are such gaping holes (assuming Softridge gets his wish and is shipped out) is if the team thinks Parker won't make it back this coming year.
Mother er, Green isn't getting shopped. In an open market Green would get snapped up in a brilliant shiny second at $10m before anyone ever dreamed of Red at twice as much. Green would get $20 million before Red got $10 mill.Uhhhhh what?? You literally just ed about Red possibly getting twice as much..so that's one
Green >>>>>> Mills
Green contract >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Mills
Mills is the new pair of cement shoes for Kawhi to lose with after Parker finally breaks off
Except Jru Holiday is a quality pg who's entering his prime years. Paddy is a no D playing, nut hugging back up sg with a broken jump shot, who couldn't run an NBA offense to save his life. I didn't even realize there was a market for that type of player until now.
I expected a vet to hold Tony's place because he's coming back no matter what. Instead we're holding a bag of that consists of 5 PGs and 40 year old Manu STILL running the offense from the bench because Patty isn't even capable of that.
You're right though. Why should I expect any defense, playmaking from a PG, or shot making against teams that matter from our so-called "6th man"?
He was 9th. Vince Carter was 11th.
No...I'm content. Basketball reasons set us back a decade. We're on year 6
Heh. I got nothin'.
If they wanted a steady hand until Porker oinked his way back, they could have signed Beno or fat Felton, or CJ Watson, or a dozen other guys.
If they wanted longer term insurance, they could have spent 3/36 on Teodosic! Same bad defense , no worse a playoff shooter because it's hard to be worse, and an incredible playmaker!
And they would save the fourth year!
The fourth year is what makes the deal go from terrible to catastrophic.
And if the market was 4 years, let him go get 4 years somewhere else. Jesus.
Don't you know? Patty was 9th in 6MotY voting! All for his lack of D, no playmaking abilities, and lack of shot making against good teams! Such a bargain!!
Wtf man I never said he was being shopped..stick to the subject. You said Green is far better then Red ..he isn't. I used his contract to dispute that. Green got 12M offer but took 10M when he was "on the market". Red is getting 15-20M at 33..so yes I think that tells me some GM's would think Red >Green if they had to choose.
You seem to think there's no contest..
Kobe Bryant's selfish ass set yall back at least 5 yearsNo...I'm content. Basketball reasons set us back a decade. We're on year 6
If things go well (60 win pace or so), which is pretty much a guarantee if Kawhichael stays healthy, I think TP plays a minimal role when he returns. He was benched in his prime in favor of Hill in '10 so I doubt Pop will hesitate to do the same to TOSB TP if Murray is doing well.
yes. that is the only explanation. they paid premium for off the court intangibles. Pop loves him too... same story as Tony.
Well, that plus the team's unwillingness to bite the bullet and let go. Seems like that's a bad thing, too.
Sure, Jrue is better than Paddy but it's not like it's an apples to apples comparison. One just got massively overpaid and the other didn't.
Shooting will always be valued in this league.
I expected a vet to hold Tony's place because he's coming back no matter what. Instead we're holding a bag of that consists of 5 PGs and 40 year old Manu STILL running the offense from the bench because Patty isn't even capable of that.
You're right though. Why should I expect any defense, playmaking from a PG, or shot making against teams that matter from our so-called "6th man"?
Again, if you want players that are well rounded and consistently perform in the playoffs it's going to cost a lot more than what Paddy got. You are listing his flaws as if other teams' role players (many of whom earn more) don't have their own flaws and struggles with consistency.
If it comes to it, his contract is widely regarded as good value so you'll have no trouble moving it. I agree that if they keep bringing TP back this signing is pretty head scratching but personally I think TP is done in SA (and maybe in general) after next year.
It makes basketball sense if you think there's a chance Tony doesn't return to form, and you're going to lose Manu and/or Simmons from your bench unit. Murray will get his opportunity regardless of Mills returning.People can say all they want about the "value" of this deal but it makes absolutely no basketball sense. Should've rolled with Murray. At least he'd get to fight through growing pains and speed up his development. If not, a cheap vet would've sufficed. Instead, we're locking up all our past their prime vets who play no D and choke in big games because "culture
I'm not saying I love the deal, but it does make basketball sense.
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