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B..b...b...He started grabbing a few boards and his defense went from being abysmal to just mediocre! He also still can't shoot 3s so he is a perfect fit!At this thread. It's a microcosm of this place. The intelligent posters all realize it's a no brainer to trade him and that they'd be better off with pieces like Porter, Gordon, etc. because the pieces would fit better and it'd allow the young guards to grow. Meanwhile, the apologists/casuals think he's a legit star, shouldn't be traded for role players and that they'd be better off losing him for nothing in 1-2 years.
I got news for the latter: There's a miniscule chance of them doing better than Porter, Gordon, etc. with the '21 cap space, those types have resale value if need be and you can forget about them being a dumping ground for dead money and piling up picks because that's not how they operate.
Extend that man, RC!!!
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I disagree completely. Butler was but his defense has dropped down massively. Doncic will be soon.
Damn, Gordon's game is nice. He'd legit be a superstar by now if he had been drafted by the Spurs instead of that dumb franchise in Orlando, imo.
Wow, he did totally dominate one of the worst teams in the NBA last year.
That's pretty good. The Orlando GM would definitely get fired if he traded Fournier, Gordon, and a 2nd round pick for DeRozen and Belinelli.
For everyone tempted to google Fournier after all the mentions he's gotten so far,to check up on his age/stats/contract-do not google Fournier.
Friendly warning.
Only trade DeMar if it makes the Spurs a better team long term. Getting Gordon is good and Spurs should still go after Beal.
go all in:
http://www.espn.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=y6leoldm
Orl next season:
Patty/Augustine
Bryn/MCW/Bellinelli
DDR/T. Ross/Iwundu
LMA/A. Aminu
Vuce/Birch/Metu
*backcourt of splash brothers, with 3 allstars frontcourt
Last edited by kobyz; 07-16-2019 at 05:21 PM.
The Spurs know how DD looks. They've had him for a year now.
Tor: derozan, 1st from spurs
Was: mills, belli, forbes, metu, 2x 1st and 2x 2nd from spurs
Sas: beal, marc gasol, og anunoby
http://tradenba.com/trades/r1otqTiWS
love the trading metu ideas
http://www.espn.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=yxwyqaum
(Spurs throw in Milutinov rights to ORL)
ORL next season:
Augustine/MCW
Fournier/Bryn
DDR/T. Ross
LMA/A. Aminu
Vuce/Milutinov
SAS next season:
Derrick White/Dejounte Murray/Quinndary Weatherspoon
Batum/Keldon Johnson/Lonnie Walker/Iwundu
Gordon/DeMarre Carroll/Okeke
Issac/Rudy Gay/Luka Samanic/Trey Lyles
Jakob Poeltl/Bamba/Metu
Last edited by kobyz; 07-16-2019 at 05:43 PM.
Metu is literally a legend in these parts.
The thing is DeRozan doesn't shine in any scenario when it comes to advanced stats. For the entire season, the Spurs scored more points per 100 possessions with him off the floor than on, and held opponents to fewer points per 100 possessions with him off the floor as opposed to on: http://www.82games.com/1819/18SAS7.HTM
His on/off numbers for the playoffs were by far the worst on the team: http://www.82games.com/1819/18SAS7.HTM
And yeah, Demar had a better RPM than Klay last year, but in the previous five, Klay's was better, and over the course of the last 400 games and the playoffs, it's not even close.
I've said it before: I root for DeMar because he's a Spur and I don't dislike him, but he's just not a very effective player in the modern NBA. And there's simply no possible way he's a top 30 player. He'd be much better suited coming off the bench, scoring & defending against bench players... but that won't happen because he makes the salary of a #1 option.
a little fix: http://www.espn.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=y6jxprwc
SAS next season:
Dejounte Murray/Lonnie Walker/Quinndary Weatherspoon
Derrick White/Keldon Johnson/Wes Iwundu
Chuma Okeke/Jonathan Isaac/DeMarre Carroll
Aaron Gordon/Rudy Gay/Trey Lyles
Drummond/Jakob Poeltl/Luka Samanic
Chicago is interesting. Would need more that just Otto Porter, but the fit would be nice.
I want nothing from DET. They’d need to give 3 picks for me to take there garbage.
A move for Gordon is interesting. We’d have to take back salary, so maybe they get another asset back too. I do think such a move essentially would put LMA on the clock too.
Would Spurs really be so nice to give back DeMar to Toronto? Would he really want to be back there after they traded him for a 1 year Kawhi rental? Not seeing the point in trading DeMar back to Toronto for either Spurs or DeMar.
yeah he would. He went to the locker room and hugged everybody right after Kawhi took the ball from him and dunked it to win the game. Raptors just don't have anything I would want except Siakam and his salary doesn't match. Also lol at these re ed trade ideas.
If you want to trade DeRozan for a player that's better than him it's Beal. That's it. Otherwise try to get 2 SFs back and maybe a pick or another young player. So Gordon and Fournier would make sense but I don't think it'll make the team better. Only other SF I would want is Covington and that means you gotta take one of them trash contracts like Dieng back too so it doesn't make much sense salary wise. Being that most SFs were free agents this year you could get better fits at the trade deadline, but makin that type of move midseason is not really how the Spurs operate. And at that point the team might just be really good and on a top 4 seed which then makes it even more unlikely to trade him. I just don't see a lot of ways to improve the team by trading him
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