Why does everyone keep wanting Kat? While he is a good player I always wonder if he is a winner. He has not done much in his career. Has he even made the PO? Think of most great players they can get their teams to the PO.
I would actually rather have their "overpriced Backup". While i wish he was payed less he has always done well when he has played.
I would look at DDR/ forbes for Rco/Deng and a first?
If KAT was available and he’s not, most teams in the league would want to trade for him so the Spurs don’t have enough assets.
The biggest issue with this team is who is getting the minutes. Replace Forbes with White or Walker and I feel our fortunates would change.
Clan the spurs fan posted that according to his sources.. possible 3 team trade being discussed between thunder , warriors, spurs with 10 players , trade exceptions and draft picks involved .... I know probably bs just thought it was interesting to share
warriors want derozan
thunder want LA
spurs want Deangelo Russell and Steven Adams
Eric paschall and Terrance Ferguson also involved in trade
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He plays for one of the worst franchises in the nba with his #2 being trash ass Wiggins and has had coaching too. Hard to lead your team to the playoffs when your coaches suck, your second option is a massive net negative, your role players are trash, and your front office is inept
Russell and Towns are butt buddies tbh...i think they would prefer to try to pair them together but if the trade is there im sure GS will make it
"Warriors want Derozan"
You can forget those sauces.
I wouldn't mind that deal at all
Clan the Spurs fan also said the Spurs wanted to sign Jabari Parker. He says a lot of dumb
I watched a lot of Adams this year, he isn't having a great year and that's with a great facilitating PG... he also makes about 27 millions this year and next. I hope the Spurs would get an additional asset if they trade LA for him.
He also had butler for most of a season and he got tired of him. He also has Teague and RCo. While the last two are not elite they are not bad. He is not a winner. DDR looks good but is not a winner.
He didn't get tired of Butler. Butler demanded out. And Teague is garbage. Covington is the only decent role player they have.
Comparing KAT a young big who can shoot from the arc, score inside, and rebound to a soft mentally fragile midrange chucker like DD is laughable
Butler got tired of KAT because KAT was not concerned about winning. He has more skills then DDR but he might not even have as much heart. He has had good players and not been able to make the PO. Teague was an All star in 2015.
And MCW was rookie of the year once... Who cares? You should watch the games instead of just going off past rep and general narratives. I never said Towns was prime Tim Duncan but he is by far better than any player on our roster and a much more modern big man. Spurs would not be doing their due diligence of they did not at least inquire
It would not hurt to inquire but any trade would be a big hit to us and take most of our youth and picks.So we would have him and no one else. He is not a winner but if we got him for relatively cheap then ok but giving up a lot no. I think He would get somethign close to AD.
our roster aside from maybe walker has pretty limited upside and is not that great. the spurs dont have "a lot" to give up. lol @ anyone thinking Spurs should hold anyone out of a potential deal for a top 5 big man under 25 when the roster is trash
You got me thinking about the upside of the Spurs roster.
DDR - no more upside. What you see now is all you're going to get.
Forbes - ditto. He'll never be Steph Curry II.
Mills - he's the best wombat he's going to be.
Beli - only downside. He's on the downhill slope of his career.
Gay - his trend is downward, too.
LMA - might still have some upside, offensively, if the team can make it work for him to shoot more 3s. But it takes team play to make that happen. Optimize, Pop, optimize!
Poeltl - limited upside, like you say, but he can still get better.
Lyles - some upside, the question being, how much? He's 24, and players usually peak at 27 or 28. But he can get noticeably better, I think.
Carroll - the invisible man.
White - upside depends on his health. He still doesn't seem to be moving as well as he did when he was at his best last season.
Murray - he's getting better, but at a snail's pace, with frequent setbacks. Pound that rock.
Lonnie - like you mention, he's the one with serious hopes toward the upside.
Yep, it's a roster with "pretty limited upside" exactly as you say. No argument.
All serious offers considered...
I agree with your post, however, I think you're a bit harsh on Murray, he's back from the type of injury that used to be career ending not that long ago and it's only natural that it'd take him a year or so to see his real self. Sure, he's got a lot to improve in terms of shooting, handling and playmaking, but he still has a lot of upside left.
You've also forgotten Johnson and Samanic. Johnson seems like he's going to be a solid player and he's even showing some ability to drive and finish at the rim - stuff that wasn't expected of him coming from college as a 3 and D type. He's still very young.
Samanic, I think has the biggest upside on the team. Obviously he's far from reaching it, but his projected skills are incredibly intriguing - shooting, dribbling and playmaking from the high post - yes please! Think of how many bigs there are in the league able to do this. Of course he's yet to put it all together and he might never do it, but as we're talking about upside here he's a really exciting project.
totally agree, this team is a trash with almost zero chances to improve in a future
Yup. Complete trash roster. Have to listen to all trade offers
It was probably mentioned somewhere in here, but I'm not wasting time sifting through it to find out: DeRozan for Porter . . . in the off season because let's face it, it's highly unlikely they do anything in season.
Despite some unsubstantiated rumors, the Bulls don't appear a sensible suitor on the surface, but they're actually the profile of the rare type of team he makes sense for: They're trying to make the playoffs (without sacrificing their future), they're 28th offensively, but they're 8th in 3pt makes/attempts and 15th in %, as well as 7th defensively (would likely regress some with Dunn inevitably playing a lesser role).
Meanwhile, Porter is about as clean a fit as can be and would pave the way to start White/Walker ahead of Forbes.
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Jonathon Isaac just went down with an apparent knee injury. If serious, anyone think Orlando might go into desperation mode and make a trade for demar? Or, most importantly, will San Antonio pull the trigger?
I think it's more likely they don't make a big move now and just move Gordon to the 4 where he's best suited and look to acquire a smaller piece.
I don't see PATFO trading DeRozan nor Aldridge this season unless this team gets absolutely out of playoff contention by the all star game. And I don't see that happening.
Going back to the topic, "realistic Dream Packages", I'm bringing two names: Saric and Bogdanovic. I think both are Spurs material: likeables by Pop and a good fit next to Aldridge, DeRozan, Murray and our second string of key players: Poetl, Mills, White, Walker.
Bogdanovic said no to a $50M contract in Sacramento, maybe the Kings are happy trading him right now as they are putting their eggs on Fox and Hield (the question is, does Bogdanovic want more money, more minutes or a better chance to win?) Anyway, depending on how much the Kings are asking, Spurs might pay a rent for the rest of this season and then try their chances.
Saric is finishing his rookie contract. Lile Sacramento, Phoenix is another team in between two completely different scenarios: fight for playoffs and add players or trade and tank. Either way, Suns are appearing in lots of rumors so Saric might get lost in translation.
What do you guys think Spurs could offer to PHO, SAC? Is there a realistic chance?
Bogdanovic apparently wants to start which he could do here instantly. How is he defensively though? He's longer than Forbes, so I guess that makes him a better defender automatically, but other than that I don't know much about his defense. Spurs got a lot of contracts that fit his salary range like Carroll, Belinelli, Lyles and Forbes, but I don't see Sacramento being interested in any of these players. Same with Phoenix, so I'd assume Spurs would have to throw in a pick
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