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    Am I crazy for thinking Danny Ainge might actually be sitting on the trade exception as a sign and trade piece in the summer? Could use it to line up a 4 year, close to max deal for Demar and the fit would be about as good as you can find for derozan.

    Kemba/Derozan/Brown/Tatum/Theis - 4 shooters around Demar and a ton of playmaking. Interesting configurations with derozan as the de facto point with Marcus smart next to him for more defense.

    Maybe we milk Danny this summer and get some nice pieces.
    I like the way you're thinking there...that makes alot of sense...for both sides...If he really wants to go that route though he should put it on the table and get ddr now...that way he's got more control this summer and he can see how the chemistry works before committing long term.

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    D’Antoni isn’t running things in Brooklyn, Nash is.

    Houston’s problem is that they expended a ton of first rounders on three big splash transactions, getting CP3, offloading him to get Westbrook, then offloading him to get Wall, and they’re worse than before the started that goat rope, and don’t have a short term future to improve. They will suck for half a decade, minimum.
    They got a potential haul of picks/swaps from Brooklyn, if the Nets don't do well. But yeah, it was Morey doing Morey things and then scramming when he couldn't keep Moreying his way out of it. I expect they'll be fine before long.

    Nash, meanwhile, has helped manage the big personalities in Brooklyn really well. Kudos to him. And even better defense than anyone had a right to expect.

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    They got a potential haul of picks/swaps from Brooklyn, if the Nets don't do well. But yeah, it was Morey doing Morey things and then scramming when he couldn't keep Moreying his way out of it. I expect they'll be fine before long.

    Nash, meanwhile, has helped manage the big personalities in Brooklyn really well. Kudos to him. And even better defense than anyone had a right to expect.
    Nash is an innocent bystander. Mostly sans Durant, Harden and Irving have decided to play nice so far in an attempt to squeeze out a contrived championship(s) to bolster their "legacies", a la S bag.

    Now more than ever, this genized league is about personnel, not the latest flavor of the month, great white hope figurehead, who lucks into "coaching" the elite and plays the media game, who in turn scratch their back by attempting to brainwash the masses into believing they're doing more than they actually are.

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    Nash is an innocent bystander. Mostly sans Durant, Harden and Irving have decided to play nice so far in an attempt to squeeze out a contrived championship(s) to bolster their "legacies", a la S bag.

    Now more than ever, this genized league is about personnel, not the latest flavor of the month, great white hope figurehead, who lucks into "coaching" the elite and plays the media game, who in turn scratch their back by attempting to brainwash the masses into believing they're doing more than they actually are.
    I watch the Nets all the time. Irving, Durant and Harden should be a disaster. Nash has done a fantastic job. What's more is he has the role players fitting in and everyone actually playing defense.

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    I watch the Nets all the time. Irving, Durant and Harden should be a disaster. Nash has done a fantastic job. What's more is he has the role players fitting in and everyone actually playing defense.
    No, they shouldn't. As long as they're willing to set their egos aside (which was obvious that they would given that they wanted to play together and particularly Harden, has too much at stake "legacy" wise), they're all very good - elite creators and shooters.

    The role players will naturally fit in and have their strengths accentuated playing off of that much talent. Defensively, they're still bad, but everyone will have good stretches in an area no matter the personnel. At least they have experience and motivation.

    They'd look virtually the same with anyone or no one coaching them and if it were a black coach, he wouldn't receive an ounce of credit.

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    No, they shouldn't. As long as they're willing to set their egos aside (which was obvious that they would given that they wanted to play together and particularly Harden, has too much at stake "legacy" wise), they're all very good - elite creators and shooters.

    The role players will naturally fit in and have their strengths accentuated playing off of that much talent. Defensively, they're still bad, but everyone will have good stretches in an area no matter the personnel. At least they have experience and motivation.

    They'd look virtually the same with anyone or no one coaching them and if it were a black coach, he wouldn't receive an ounce of credit.
    Sorry, bro. Those three and sharing the ball, getting enough shots? Shouldn't work. They now have defined roles. I guess you hate Nash or something? Get over it. He's doing a great job.

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    Sorry, bro. Those three and sharing the ball, getting enough shots? Shouldn't work. They now have defined roles. I guess you hate Nash or something? Get over it. He's doing a great job.
    Sorry "bro", unbeknownst to you, they actually have brains and decided to do so because it was the obvious path to maximizing their chance at a championship(s) and they didn't need the white figurehead to reach that conclusion. In the NBA, players of their stature have the power.

    You've completely missed the point if you think I have any problem with Nash whatsoever based on this.

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    Sorry "bro", unbeknownst to you, they actually have brains and decided to do so because it was the obvious path to maximizing their chance at a championship(s) and they didn't need the white figurehead to reach that conclusion. In the NBA, players of their stature have the power.

    You've completely missed the point if you think I have any problem with Nash whatsoever based on this.
    You have hangups about Steve Nash. I understand now.

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    You have hangups about Steve Nash. I understand now.
    Uncomfortable with the notion that three young black men could make a decision for themselves and didn't need a middle aged white man (whose only their because two of them wanted him to be) to do so or approve it.

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    Sorry, bro. Those three and sharing the ball, getting enough shots? Shouldn't work. They now have defined roles. I guess you hate Nash or something? Get over it. He's doing a great job.
    It basically comes down to Harden actually being smart about it. I honestly didn’t think he has it him. Durant is basically a cuck so not much of problem there. He’s like the chick that conforms to whoever she’s dating. New guy loves metal, she loves metal. New guy is country, she’ll go buy new boots.

    Irving is an unstable bipolar loon that resembles the prototypical ex wife who gets hung up on meth and stripping because she thinks she’s “hot” and “important”.

    Like all guys looking to get laid Harden has basically told Kyrie what he wants to hear and pampers his ego while Durant watches from the corner of the room. If Harden can avoid the AIDS and herpes he should get a hot night out of those two losers.

    Then like always it’ll blow up before it really gets going. Kyrie will eventually melt unless he gets heavily medicated and Durant will continue playing second fiddle.

    Harden isn’t a Net for life. When Kyrie s the bed he’ll hold the front office hostage like he’s done everywhere else and he’ll probably move on after this bender blows itself up.

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    I like the way you're thinking there...that makes alot of sense...for both sides...If he really wants to go that route though he should put it on the table and get ddr now...that way he's got more control this summer and he can see how the chemistry works before committing long term.
    I’m sorry but no org is hot on DDR. Rightfully or wrongly. Also PATFO fleecing Ainge? Have you seen their recent track record?

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    I’m sorry but no org is hot on DDR. Rightfully or wrongly. Also PATFO fleecing Ainge? Have you seen their recent track record?
    I have no idea if patfo can fleece Ainge.... there aren't even any suggestions of what a package would look like.... it would obviously cost ainge more now than this summer.... he'd just have to decide if getting a look at how they fit without committing long term is worth it or not..... but as for fit.... DDR would help that team alot...

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    Sorry, bro. Those three and sharing the ball, getting enough shots? Shouldn't work. They now have defined roles. I guess you hate Nash or something? Get over it. He's doing a great job.
    They haven’t really played together very much with Durant out for 11 games or more now. Let’s see them play for an extended period of time and through some adversity before anointing Nash as the 2nd coming of Pop. I admit the honeymoon period is looking good, but most do.

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    I have no idea if patfo can fleece Ainge.... there aren't even any suggestions of what a package would look like.... it would obviously cost ainge more now than this summer.... he'd just have to decide if getting a look at how they fit without committing long term is worth it or not..... but as for fit.... DDR would help that team alot...
    if I am being honest I have had zero interest in DDR as a Spur since he was attained but I now see certain ways he could really fit, knowing our cap potential space will be hard to allocate. I actually see some information asymmetry at this point. He is very undervalued league wise. We have found a proper way to utilize him and should consider building on that versus selling at below or near market price. Repatriate him back to SG where he has a size advantage on both sides of the ball, surround him with solid defenders who can also keep the defense honest on the perimeter, add a versatile 4 and don’t overpay or commit to too long of a contract. This whole board is wet for John Collins who is basically LMA 2 years ago with some upside. I can’t see what Boston can offer and Ainge is a shark as we all know. Our new GM? Not so much.

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    Nash is irrelevant, just as "beautiful game" era Pop, Kerr, Stevens, Nurse and whichever great white hope has got next, will be too.

    This is a genized league, ran by the best players. They not only determine where they play, but largely who they play with, the "culture", "system", etc. and every other relevant decision that was historically made by primarily middle aged - old white men. If they want things to work a certain way, they will.

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    if I am being honest I have had zero interest in DDR as a Spur since he was attained but I now see certain ways he could really fit, knowing our cap potential space will be hard to allocate. I actually see some information asymmetry at this point. He is very undervalued league wise. We have found a proper way to utilize him and should consider building on that versus selling at below or near market price. Repatriate him back to SG where he has a size advantage on both sides of the ball, surround him with solid defenders who can also keep the defense honest on the perimeter, add a versatile 4 and don’t overpay or commit to too long of a contract. This whole board is wet for John Collins who is basically LMA 2 years ago with some upside. I can’t see what Boston can offer and Ainge is a shark as we all know. Our new GM? Not so much.
    I'm in agreement with you on DDR and his value to us.... I think because we've found a way to utilize him the way we do that we probably won't trade him unless a team was to overpay for the privilege.... as for John Collins.... I'm not in favor of trading for him or signing him this summer.... I think he's vastly over rated...let Minnesota pay him and watch how that works out...

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    It basically comes down to Harden actually being smart about it. I honestly didn’t think he has it him. Durant is basically a cuck so not much of problem there. He’s like the chick that conforms to whoever she’s dating. New guy loves metal, she loves metal. New guy is country, she’ll go buy new boots.

    Irving is an unstable bipolar loon that resembles the prototypical ex wife who gets hung up on meth and stripping because she thinks she’s “hot” and “important”.

    Like all guys looking to get laid Harden has basically told Kyrie what he wants to hear and pampers his ego while Durant watches from the corner of the room. If Harden can avoid the AIDS and herpes he should get a hot night out of those two losers.

    Then like always it’ll blow up before it really gets going. Kyrie will eventually melt unless he gets heavily medicated and Durant will continue playing second fiddle.

    Harden isn’t a Net for life. When Kyrie s the bed he’ll hold the front office hostage like he’s done everywhere else and he’ll probably move on after this bender blows itself up.
    Another worthless take. What community college did you flunk out of to become a life coach? I’d pay 10x for strip club therapy than listening to your clown ass. Either way you probably can’t even get in the building.

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    Coaching is usually only a factor when it's bad. I agree with TD 21 in that this a talent-driven league. Harden, Durant, and Irving on the same team? Of course they will be heavily favored to do well.

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    They haven’t really played together very much with Durant out for 11 games or more now. Let’s see them play for an extended period of time and through some adversity before anointing Nash as the 2nd coming of Pop. I admit the honeymoon period is looking good, but most do.
    They already played a good deal with Durant. The roles of the big three were clear at that point. Listen, I watch the Nets. They're in my market. Don't just make up.

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    "Miami has also dangled veterans Avery Bradley, Maurice Harkless and Meyers Leonard to match salaries as part of a trade package for San Antonio's LaMarcus Aldridge, league sources told HoopsHype. The Heat would also have to add another minimum contract such as either Chris Silva or KZ Okpala and draft pick compensation to make a trade worthwhile for San Antonio. Miami is expected to have compe ion from several teams hoping to acquire Aldridge to improve their playoff chances. Some executives around the league who spoke with HoopsHype believe the Boston Celtics could join the mix to acquire Aldridge using their $28.5 million trade exception despite Danny Ainge recently suggesting the team will most likely use the exception during the offseason. Aldridge earns $24 million this season. The Celtics are roughly $19.9 million below the hard cap and would need to send out $4.1 million in salary to San Antonio to stay below the hard cap according to our salary cap expert Yossi Gozlan. Boston has also been linked to several frontcourt players including Kings forward Harrison Barnes, Pistons forward Jerami Grant, and Magic center Nikola Vucevic. MORE: Potential Boston Celtics Trade Targets"

    https://sports.yahoo.com/amphtml/tra...mpression=true
    heat trying to dump Leonard's problems on the spurs

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    To have those 3 Egos on the same team you gotta give Nash some credit just to keep the boat going in the same direction - Will see in Playoffs that is when I judge how good a coach is by making adjustments when he needs to and getting the team to respond when things are not going there way...

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    Another worthless take. What community college did you flunk out of to become a life coach? I’d pay 10x for strip club therapy than listening to your clown ass. Either way you probably can’t even get in the building.
    No counter argument. Instead just hurl an insult.

    Never seen you do that before.

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    No counter argument. Instead just hurl an insult.

    Never seen you do that before.
    I really didn’t see anything to counter. The aids and herpes comment?

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    I really didn’t see anything to counter. The aids and herpes comment?
    Sorry if that hit a little too close to home.

    Kyrie is a mess and when his bipolar pendulum swings there’s a good chance those around him are gonna get infected with his bull .

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    Sorry if that hit a little too close to home.

    Kyrie is a mess and when his bipolar pendulum swings there’s a good chance those around him are gonna get infected with his bull .
    Are you actually a designated anything? A life coach should have some credentials no? Your dream should be getting the germ. Atleast that means something, anything, at the time actually wanted to fk you. Muppet.

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