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Some of these takes are just eating wood right now.
On an NBA compe ion level you're right. You never know what these guys will end up doing though. There's too many examples of seemingly terrible players who one day weren't terrible.
Some of these takes are just eating wood right now.
That bbiq or lack there of are the growing pains I referenced aboveughh. Productive loss none the less
Par the course….
He’s apparently become a knockdown 3 point shooter overnight and as a result has been more confident. Confidence and hot shooting tend to go well
After a couple decent games guys, really?
He had a few last season too like 1896468169987 players in NBA history. that's not the point, which is that that roster Pop wants to "develop" is filled with furutre non elite role players at best, and I'm not sure in what Pop believes (or has the pretention to believe) he can develop into...
Pop didn't make Tim, Dave, TP or Manu. they were uber talented/gifted players he just put in a right system. ... Sure these kids will necessarily improve, like any of us would playing and training 82 NBA games, bone of the current kids have a quarter of the potential talent and BBIQ the former ones had... Still and somehow we should trust and be happy seeing a 75 old coach spend the next 4 years producing a bunch of future bench, spot up minutes guys who have no chance to start on a contender... Have we lowered ou standards and expectations that low that "we" should flex and call out everyone because Malaki Freaking Branham is making a few 3s and starting to understand there's 4 other guys on a BB court?
he's not gonna be a star in this league. Nor will Blake, nor will Sochan, nor will Keldon, nor will Tre, (nor will Primo, nor will Lonnie, nor will Samanich) nor will Vassel (who would be the closest to that). What's the point spending the next 3 years developing these guys? What does it lead to?
Besides Wemby who fell from the sky, spurs haven't drafted a real, potential star in ages...but still should trust it to build a contender... , they certainly didn't expect TP and Manu to be that good and Dave and Tim were also given to them... So you could argue PATFO never really found a star by themselves...
He was always going to be a good shooter. He and Vassel were very similar in college, 40-41% from 3, 80+% FTs. It’s just a matter of adjusting to the farther distance, and the better closeouts.
It’s not been games, it’s been WEEKS. Started on Valentines Day, and the only break was one game of 0-1.After a couple decent games guys, really?
He had a few last season too like 1896468169987 players in NBA history. that's not the point, which is that that roster Pop wants to "develop" is filled with furutre non elite role players at best, and I'm not sure in what Pop believes (or has the pretention to believe) he can develop into...
Pop didn't make Tim, Dave, TP or Manu. they were uber talented/gifted players he just put in a right system. ... Sure these kids will necessarily improve, like any of us would playing and training 82 NBA games, bone of the current kids have a quarter of the potential talent and BBIQ the former ones had... Still and somehow we should trust and be happy seeing a 75 old coach spend the next 4 years producing a bunch of future bench, spot up minutes guys who have no chance to start on a contender... Have we lowered ou standards and expectations that low that "we" should flex and call out everyone because Malaki Freaking Branham is making a few 3s and starting to understand there's 4 other guys on a BB court?
he's not gonna be a star in this league. Nor will Blake, nor will Sochan, nor will Keldon, nor will Tre, (nor will Primo, nor will Lonnie, nor will Samanich) nor will Vassel (who would be the closest to that). What's the point spending the next 3 years developing these guys? What does it lead to?
Besides Wemby who fell from the sky, spurs haven't drafted a real, potential star in ages...but still should trust it ti build a contender. , they certainly didn't expect TP and Manu to be that good and Dave and Tim were also given to them... So you could argue PATFO never really found a star by themselves...
I know you hate him. Your screeds can’t be described as anything else. It’s hard to walk back a position, but you might want to consider it. Pretty sure Malaki has found his NBA stroke.
Oh, and the bolded sections seem to contradict. Pop didn’t make them, but no one thought they’d be as good? Seems to be an inconsistency. At this point, you’re just flailing and thrashing around.
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Popovich developed Kawhi, developed George Hill, developed Danny Green, Dejounte Murray, sure as developed Tony Parker.After a couple decent games guys, really?
He had a few last season too like 1896468169987 players in NBA history. that's not the point, which is that that roster Pop wants to "develop" is filled with furutre non elite role players at best, and I'm not sure in what Pop believes (or has the pretention to believe) he can develop into...
Pop didn't make Tim, Dave, TP or Manu. they were uber talented/gifted players he just put in a right system. ... Sure these kids will necessarily improve, like any of us would playing and training 82 NBA games, bone of the current kids have a quarter of the potential talent and BBIQ the former ones had... Still and somehow we should trust and be happy seeing a 75 old coach spend the next 4 years producing a bunch of future bench, spot up minutes guys who have no chance to start on a contender... Have we lowered ou standards and expectations that low that "we" should flex and call out everyone because Malaki Freaking Branham is making a few 3s and starting to understand there's 4 other guys on a BB court?
he's not gonna be a star in this league. Nor will Blake, nor will Sochan, nor will Keldon, nor will Tre, (nor will Primo, nor will Lonnie, nor will Samanich) nor will Vassel (who would be the closest to that). What's the point spending the next 3 years developing these guys? What does it lead to?
Besides Wemby who fell from the sky, spurs haven't drafted a real, potential star in ages...but still should trust it to build a contender... , they certainly didn't expect TP and Manu to be that good and Dave and Tim were also given to them... So you could argue PATFO never really found a star by themselves...
Sorry, don't take this personally, but these posts are whiny dog .
It is laughable to think the PATFO that sustained a 20 year contending window won't be able to build a contender. GM stumbles to building contenders all the time. MIL went 0 for on their lottery picks, ed up Giannis shot and still somehow won a chip because they gave reps to this older second round pick who was a throw in. What they did to constantly retool without capspace, market or good picks is near impossible.After a couple decent games guys, really?
He had a few last season too like 1896468169987 players in NBA history. that's not the point, which is that that roster Pop wants to "develop" is filled with furutre non elite role players at best, and I'm not sure in what Pop believes (or has the pretention to believe) he can develop into...
Pop didn't make Tim, Dave, TP or Manu. they were uber talented/gifted players he just put in a right system. ... Sure these kids will necessarily improve, like any of us would playing and training 82 NBA games, bone of the current kids have a quarter of the potential talent and BBIQ the former ones had... Still and somehow we should trust and be happy seeing a 75 old coach spend the next 4 years producing a bunch of future bench, spot up minutes guys who have no chance to start on a contender... Have we lowered ou standards and expectations that low that "we" should flex and call out everyone because Malaki Freaking Branham is making a few 3s and starting to understand there's 4 other guys on a BB court?
he's not gonna be a star in this league. Nor will Blake, nor will Sochan, nor will Keldon, nor will Tre, (nor will Primo, nor will Lonnie, nor will Samanich) nor will Vassel (who would be the closest to that). What's the point spending the next 3 years developing these guys? What does it lead to?
Besides Wemby who fell from the sky, spurs haven't drafted a real, potential star in ages...but still should trust it to build a contender... , they certainly didn't expect TP and Manu to be that good and Dave and Tim were also given to them... So you could argue PATFO never really found a star by themselves...
I think Milwaukee with Giannis is our best comp. We should learn as many lessons from them as we can. Do what they did right. They go after every single player on the market that fits their criteria and they can afford. But we need to urgently avoid their mistakes. They have absolutely no resources to improve their roster at this point and they’ve burned through three coaches in a year, yikes.
Hire Coach Bud?
Then don't fire Coach Bud?
I personally thought they gave up on Coach Bud too soon. He did win them a championship after all. But that’s the life of a coach on a contender I guess. I think coach Bud would be a great fit on this team to replace Pop one day actually. I think trading for Lillard will end up being a mistake too but we will see.
This isn’t rocket science! The kid has an nba skill set that just needs time to cultivate; we’ve seen it before with this organization. Devin starts and Malaki comes off the bench sustaining pressure on the opposition.
Malaki hitting 3s consistently (and not just open looks) is the skill he can't afford not to have to be a viable NBA player going forward, I was counting on this when I wanted the Spurs to pick him at 20 in the '22 NBA draft, but it's taken him way longer to get there (league average) than I figured. If he can improve on that and becomes a high level 3 pt shooter with (at least) defensive effort and some awareness then he already becomes a legit rotation player (and not a prospect) who can still work on the rest of his game as time goes on, That is going to be huge for him to avoid falling victim of the roster crunch that will inevitably come in the next year or two. He's still 20 so it was always too early to give up on him, along with Wesley (who has also shown significant improvement, even more so than Branham I'd say) they'll probably get to spend the rest of their rookie contract years with the team, if even one of them pans out that's already a success.
Blake is growing on meHe has a lot of work to do but doesn’t seem to mind doing it. May end up being a faster Marcus Smart type= win for us. Tre Jones days are numbered.
If I were Pop I would start Branham and give him 35 mins a night untill the end of the season. Let's see if he can develop into the next tier.
If I were Pop I would not hand him anything after a couple weeks of good games and keep him where he is at hungry as and improving.
You wouldn't be "handing him" anything, you would be testing him, tbh. This is how development works: the player shows improvement, you give him more playing time and responsabilities to see if he can deal with it.
you'd be handing him the most minutes on the team.
'testing' him for what exactly that is not already testable when the status quo is working extremely well?
Malaki is doing what I hoped he'd be doing.
Starting to bang threes. And not thinking about it.
Starting to impact the score sheet other than shots. He's getting boards and assists.
Starting to not be a disaster on defense. This is getting better.
I really like what I see.
His rookie year was kinda choppy, but a 35% in year two, he’s pretty much on the Vassell track.
Y‘all can about Branham, Wesley and Sochan next season. Year 2 is never easy for draft picks, but in year 3 you expect to see a huge leap. If not, then all that complaining would actually be justified.
Let's say you start him and give him starter's minutes, and the kid shows he can start putting up 20+ pts consistently. You don't see any benefit in that?
now consider the downside and stop pretending it is all roses.
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