I wonder what it would take to get Utah's #16. They've got 3 first rounders this year too, they'd probably be interested in kicking the can down the road if they can't consolidate and move up from #9.
I wonder what it would take to get Utah's #16. They've got 3 first rounders this year too, they'd probably be interested in kicking the can down the road if they can't consolidate and move up from #9.
Makes it a lot easier when you have the best player in the world who just entered his prime tbh. But I agree drafting more seasoned players/shooters to surround Jokic is the move right now.
Have to think the Nuggets are grabbing Trayce Jackson-Davis if they can.
Was wondering that the other day, but Danny Ainge is one stingy tbh. He usually won’t make a deal unless he bends you over. Only exception to that was that Westbrook trade he made with the Lakers last year, but he still got a FRP out of what was basically a salary dump situation.
Would be a great fit for them. Was just thinking yesterday how TJD is basically a poor man’s Aaron Gordon. Not exactly, but there’s a lot of similarities there for sure.
Calvin Booth deserves a ton of credit-- he swung a smart deal in the middle of the finals, and now has 4 shots at adding low cost role players in the next two drafts. Plus it looks like Christian Braun and Peyton Watson are ready for more minutes next season. I love that he preaches positional size so adamantly. Denver will never make the mistake of surrounding Jokic with a bunch of undersized players like Utah did with Gobert.
This. Jokic's play style is so easy to build around too. It's not like it's Embiid or even Luka where he needs "mah touches"
Denver is going to be a problem for the next 5-6 years tbh.
It’s a weird pick, though. 1-4 protected, but Utah only gets one shot at it. If LA sucks, and they very well might, it might be zero. Doesn’t even devolve into SRPs.
I'd guess the CHA, TOR, and Bulls pick would get it done but that's a lot and I'd only like it if Cason or Bufkin were there.
Ainge gave up two pretty decent rotation/bench guys and Michael Conley for a single future pick, right?
If this is the price of unclogging the pipe, the Spurs should start trading away future picks soon before they get crunched.
I didn't realize, but UTA has no picks next year. They owe their SRP outright and then their FRP to OKC with these protections:
Utah's 1st round pick to Oklahoma City protected for selections 1-10 in 2024, 1-10 in 2025 and 1-8 in 2026
Which probably conveys. I think Utah goes into the playoffs next year.
Yep. Trading 33, the Charlotte pick and the Chicago pick for a really good first this year would be quite the boon, but finding takers for these seconds is also going to need to get handled.
Yea, I’m not trading 3 FRPs for #16. Don’t care if Jesus returns, and is best player available when they’re on the clock. OKC traded three picks for #11 last year, and none of them were as good as the TOR or CHI picks.
Interesting. Looking at the teams in the teens and they seem like the most likely trade partner IMO and there's a very high chance that Cason or Hood-Schifino is available at 16.
I think you could probably get the 16 with two of them or one and something else, like a later protected pick.
Utah wants to use 9 and 16 to trade up, but I don't think they will. Failing that, it sounds like they want to use 16 and 28 to move up, but I'm not sure that gets anything done.
Yeah I'd do CHA 2024 and our own 2025 pick or something like that but not three FRPs to move into the late lottery.
Can't go wrong with those Penn State grads.
Spurs could add protection on picks and/or combine them to remove uncertainty about what the pick will be.
For example, Spurs could trade something like the best of Toronto (top 6 protected), Spurs (top 6 protected), Charlotte (top 14 protected) 2024 first round pick. If all 3 picks end up in the protected area, then do the same with 2025 first round picks...
I'm not starting the convo offering 3 first rounders obviously but I'm not losing sleep if that's the final price to get a guy they really like who slipped past the lottery. Especially when the Spurs still have all of their picks, unprotected picks from ATL and pick swaps aplenty.
I imagine that TOR 2024, ATL 2025, CHI 2025 will likely be higher than our own pick in those respective years. Does it make sense to instead trade our own picks in 2024 and 2025 + CHA 2024 and hold onto the others? It sounds like the Stepien rule doesn't apply when you have other picks in your pocket
The Stepien Rule prevents teams from being without first-round picks in consecutive years. The catch is that they need not control their own first-round pick. Any first-rounder satisfies the terms of the Stepien Rule
Agree. If your guy is there, it doesn't matter whether you've spent 3 picks to get him at 8 or 16. Obviously you don't start there though.
Yes, the time is coming fast when the Spurs' own picks will be worse than the ones we acquired. I can imagine they could offer their own with protections. Problem is the protections box out when you can trade further picks (if you don't have any others).
You can sleep peacefully, spurs would never do that. Nobody would trade 3FRPS for a non lottery pick. Not one example in history.
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