2 of their 4 games are against 2 of the top 5 two man tandems in the league when they are at their healthiest. I wouldn't read to much into those numbers. I also question how much Pop is actually trying to win. I feel like if you asked Pop if you could win 40 games with tre as the starter and not know if Wemby and Sochan can play together or know if Wemby and Sochan can play together but Tre is the backup point guard and you win 28 games...pretty sure Pop is taking the 28 games since in the long run that matters more. Real life isn't 2k and Pop isn't the type of coach doing everything he can to chase wins. Old and accomplished people like Pop always deal in "perspective".
You got a 20 year old playing hilariously out of position and you got a 19 year old learning how to play in the nba. It was always going to be a disaster to start with.
Wemby is better with Tre on the floor, that's eye popping. I mean spurs are better with Jones as PG, reason why he's finishing the games. Sochan is over dribbling, missing open teammates and not really creating anything. He's basically bringing the ball up the court. Bring him to back to his natural position, he may get a bit better at PG but will never be a reliable solution there.
I love how according to Spurs Talk, Tre Jones was a disaster and the worst guard in the NBA and now according to Spurs Talk, Tre Jones is spectacular and the only way this team can work.
I like how Tre is playing. He seems to have stepped things up, like I said in preseason.
I also still really like Jeremy and want to see him develop. Totally fine with some more time to see where it goes .
And then there's Graham who is forgotten but could be very helpful with his flamethrowing 3 point shooting. But might be the odd man out.
When is his supension over?
I saw it was two games, he has been available for the road trip.
Was listening to The Lowe Post podcast and he said that when Victor Wembanyama and Tre Jones share the floor together the Spurs are +56 over 75 minutes! That's crazy!
Tre Jones is a fine backup tier PG who is currently our best option to start at PG
i hope that clarifies
Sochan played well yesterday
seriously Wemby's game will raise to whole other level once a competent starting point guard is on the Spurs
Every move now has to be with a Wemby championship team in mind.
The question we need to always ask is, can this player be a starter on a championship level team?
I love Tre but I don’t think that’s likely.
Sochan probably isn’t either but Pop wants to find out and give it time to see what’s up.
I expect we’ll draft a PG next year to add to our options
Spurs will almost certainly be drafting a PG next year. Problem is Wemby raises this team's floor too high to be selecting in the top-10, and I don't think we end up getting Toronto's top-6 protected pick cause they suck as is and will likely tank to keep it regardless, so I think we'll be stuck having to settle for a 2nd or 3rd-tier prospect in the teens (or even 20's, depending on how well Wemby continues to perform this season).
We also own Charlotte's Lottery-protected FRP via the Dejounte trade with Atlanta, but CHA is likely going to be trash this year too so that likely doesn't convey either sadly.
There's 3-4 PG's projected to go in next year's lottery right now. We'll know more once the CBB season plays out obviously, but that's what it's looking like at the moment.
I think packaging some of our draft capital + a player or two for PG might also be an option for us moving forward if that's the case. Not sure who, if any, teams would be willing to move their PG, but perhaps a team ready to go into rebuild mode. Who knows. Time will tell, but I do think we'll be drafting a PG in the 1st Round next year with our pick so long as it's not a huge reach.
The way too early PG rankings in the 2024 NBA Draft. Top-3 guys are currently projected to go in the lottery.
1. Isaiah Collier, USC - 6'4 205 lbs. - Best PG prospect in the draft. #1 rated player in the 2023 class. Pass-first PG with a knack at getting to the rim.
2. Stephon Castle, UCONN - 6'6 190 lbs. - PG/SG combo with great size and athleticism. Great defensive potential as well.
3. DJ Wagner, UK 6'3 180 lbs. - Son of former NBA player DeJuan Wagner. Score-first PG with good athleticism and explosive first step. Excels at scoring.
4. Tyrese Proctor, Duke - 6'5 175 lbs. - Tall, lanky Aussie who excels at passing the ball. Also a good 3-point shooter. Lacks explosive athleticism.
5. Elmarko Jackson, KU - 6'3 185 lbs. - Strong, bullish guard who excels at lowering his head and getting to the rim. Solid 3-point shooter too.
I take Nikola topic over every single one of those guys tbh. 27/6/10 today on 67/75/100 shooting in adriatic league play at 18 years old.
Yea Topic's been trending on Twitter lately. He looks legit. If he puts his name in the 2024 Draft, he'll shake up these rankings. This could all change anyways. We'll see what this CBB season holds for us.
There look like there'll be decent PG options in this draft - And I'd expect the Toronto pick to convey (tanking for 3 years is hard, if you're giving up a pick at 7 - 14 you probably want it to be this year rather than 2025 or 2026, and it'd be using up the career of Scottie Barnes, who they are super high on).
I'd expect the Spurs to look at PG with at least one of their pick and the Toronto pick - Either as pure PG options, or big combo guards who you can run alongside other wings.
I'd also think about looking into a trade to ensure that there is 48 minutes of competence at PG. I don't think there are realistic star trades available if we're focusing on the Spurs timeline (Halliburton, Maxey, Garland...) but giving up something like 2 second round picks and Doug McDermott for Tyus Jones at the deadline when the Wizards turn tank mode up would be a decent option (or just look to sign Tyus in free agency).
Thx for the info about PG prospects.
That really is a strong PG class!
Spurs could end up in the lottery and draw a top pick again! Or make the playoffs! Anything seems possible right now.
Even with 2nd or 3rd best options I trust Spurs Development to turn one of these guys into a winner.
Both Jones brothers...bold!
All we need is Patty Mills waving his towel. Championship.
Watching some of his highlights, he's not playing against black players, very weak compe ion.
No interior defense on the teams he's playing, can just dribble right into a layup.
Why do people only want foreign players. there are great American prospects in this year's draft. I like Castle.
Well hopefully Team Tre and Team Sochan can put their swords down and acknowledge their guys were both equally toilet today.
Chalk it up as a score draw and move on to the next one.
Wemby, Lucas, and Giannis said o.
…is this a serious reply or are you just trolling?!?
Therein lies the problem. Jones is a good backup tier pg
does us little good to have 2 of those
There are good American prospects at pg in this year's draft.
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