Jason Terry suspended (old thread)

[RON ARTEST]

Heard audio of Mark Cuban on Ticket 760 and he says something needs to be done to Finley as well, because he started it and powerdrove Terry 1st.

Cuban also said just because Terry's hand was closed, doesn't mean it was a punch.

OMFG

he said that?

[Mavs<Spurs]

Point is definitely not that it makes a win more certain.

My point is that, most of the time, this scenario helps us more than it hurts us.

I think that we will win. However, the Mavericks are a very good basketball team, especially at home, even without Terry. So, it is quite possible that we will lose even though Terry won't play. Perhaps I view it is as 51 % chance of winning prior to the suspension and 52 % after the suspension (since I said that I think that we will win).

I think that this scenario does improve our odds of a victory (by how much I could not say). Whatever the odds were of our victory with Terry playing game 6, they are slightly better with Terry out.

For example, (removing the part where I said that I believe that the Spurs will win) our odds prior to the suspension could have been 30 %. With the suspension, they could be 32 %. All I claim is (again leaving out my belief that we would win the game with Terry playing) that most of the time, our odds of winning are better and that if we played 200 games with Terry playing in 100 of them and Terry not playing in the other hundred, I believe that we would win more of them when he does not play. Could be that we just win 1 more.

If the above reasoning is correct, then our odds of winning would be better without Terry playing.

Anything can happen in a game. Dampier could go for 50 points and 20 boards. Could happen. Anomalies do definitely happen. Don't bet on and expect singular events unless you've got money to burn.

[whottt]

arent you spurs fans sick of winning games in the playoffs with players getting suspended? stern makes me sick to my ing stomach. but that doesnt mean the spurs will win. they still dont play defense anymore and cant guard my grandma. so we will see what happens.

Here....

[ducks]

cuban needs a few beers calms down then thinks before he insirts foot in mouth

[SA210]

he said that?

Yea, that was his plea to the NBA.

You need to hear the audio.

Heard audio of Mark Cuban on Ticket 760 and he says something needs to be done to Finley as well, because he started it and powerdrove Terry 1st.

Cuban also said just because Terry's hand was closed, doesn't mean it was a punch.

OMFG

[NBAFan]

Would love to see a 7 game series between #1 and #2 ans of Western Conference.
And my wish might have come true. Terry Suspension might do this.
Upon viewing the video pausing and replaying the dang small screen.
If you want to make igorrant fans comments please use another thread.
I concluded this as I posted in couple of Mavs forum........
First of all, I am not a mavs fan or spur fan. I love all NBA Team
I know JT is most religious/god loving guy so he woundn't do anything cheap.
After watching the video. Yes, no doubt he punched or fist waving saying get the off me, only JT knows that. MAY BE he punched intentionally OR he just wanted finely to get off him and he didn't know he was goin to hit finley "sensitive tool" i think finely overreacted and somebody in spurs office send the video to NBA league. I also want add that EVANS case grabing the nuts was more intentional than this and the league didn't do anything about it.
That said, I think MAVS team needs to be motivate from this accident and try to win the series. And at the same time SPURS needs to play hard and win the game. I am sure tommorrow official would be calling the game tight and would call each and every foul because of this accident. Who would take the benefit we will see tomorrow night
Good Luck to all MAVS and Spurs Fan. It would be a great game 6 AND may be game 7.

[strangeweather]

Heard audio of Mark Cuban on Ticket 760 and he says something needs to be done to Finley as well, because he started it and powerdrove Terry 1st.

Cuban also said just because Terry's hand was closed, doesn't mean it was a punch.

OMFG

You people always jump to conclusions. He could have been trying to give him a happy ending.

[RON ARTEST]

Anyways, it's not like the guy is a MVP candidate or even an All-Star.

its not about that. thats probably almost the dumbest thing you have ever said. notice i said almost. he is important to thier team and has been OWNING the spurs the whole series and one of the reasons your spurs are playing small ball. so dont give me that bull about him not being an all-star because that doesnt mean .

[MannyIsGod]

at all the bull flying around. What the ?!?!?!?

[bigglendiesel]

maybe avery will suit up!!!!!!!!!!!!! j/j

[SPARKY]

Anyways, the Suns found a way to win after losing Bell. If the Mavs are the second coming as Mavs fans have been trumpeting then losing Terry shouldn't be that big of a deal.

[SA210]

You people always jump to conclusions. He could have been trying to give him a happy ending.

?

[SPARKY]

its not about that. thats probably almost the dumbest thing you have ever said. notice i said almost. he is important to thier team and has been OWNING the spurs the whole series and one of the reasons your spurs are playing small ball. so dont give me that bull about him not being an all-star because that doesnt mean .

I'd be insulted if you weren't a dumb mother er.

[RON ARTEST]

Here....

im glad you have that ready. kinda funny since you guys will be joining us pretty soon huh?

[strangeweather]

?

It might have been man love.

[Buddy Holly]

Heard audio of Mark Cuban on Ticket 760 and he says something needs to be done to Finley as well, because he started it and powerdrove Terry 1st.

Cuban also said just because Terry's hand was closed, doesn't mean it was a punch.

OMFG

What the is that dipo watching? Terry's on the floor way before Finley touches him.

[texas84]

Well, on the bright side... look for the refs to call a lopsided game in favor of the Mavs! And this time... I mean reallllllllly lopsided.

[Crookshanks]

There have been several posts here regarding the Reggie Evans incident. Reggie Evans was not suspended, however, Don Harris said that David Stern was on an airplane when the decision was made. He said that if he hadn't been traveling, he would have demanded that Reggie be suspended.

So there you go, Reggie should have been suspended and Jason is - no problem!

[mavsfan1000]

Anyways, the Suns found a way to win after losing Bell. If the Mavs are the second coming as Mavs fans have been trumpeting then losing Terry shouldn't be that big of a deal.

Spurs>>>Lakers. That is not a fair comparison. The mavs need everyone to beat the spurs. Terry plays the whole game for a reason. No one else can space the floor at the guard position.

[RON ARTEST]

I'd be insulted if you weren't a dumb mother er.

insulted? wow thats like the biggest word you have ever used.

[Spurologist]

This thread is near classic material

[RON ARTEST]

Spurs>>>Lakers. That is not a fair comparison. The mavs need everyone to beat the spurs. Terry plays the whole game for a reason. No one else can space the floor at the guard position.

thats spurs fans for you.

[Buddy Holly]

im glad you have that ready. kinda funny since you guys will be joining us pretty soon huh?

Nah, we don't suck.

[whottt]

im glad you have that ready. kinda funny since you guys will be joining us pretty soon huh?

Are you saying we won't win this series? Spurs fans feel otherwise..


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[ShoogarBear]

Here is the exact wording from the NBA rule book:

" Violent acts of any nature on the court will not be tolerated. Players involved in altercations will be ejected, fined and/or suspended."

Which is why Terry should be suspended (if you think it was a punch), and also why Fin should be too.

Mav fans are such self-parodies when it comes to understanding basketball sometimes you think they're actually Spur fans trying to make actual Mav fans look bad. I mean, nobody could really be this dumb, could they?

Anyway, HERE is the exact rule:

Section V.l: A player, coach or trainer must be
ejected for: (1) A punching foul

And just for good measure

(4) An attempted punch which does not
make contact

And just in case that's not enough, there's another entire section devoted to it:

Section IX—Punching Fouls
a Illegal contact called on a player for
punching is a personal foul and a team
foul. One free throw attempt shall be
awarded, regardless of the number of
previous fouls in the period.The ball
shall be awarded to the offended team
out-of-bounds on either side of the
court at the free throw line extended
whether the free throw is successful or
unsuccessful.
b. Any player who throws a punch,
whether it connects or not, has
committed an unsportsmanlike act. He
will be ejected immediately and
suspended for a minimum of one game.
c. This rule applies whether play is in
progress or the ball is dead.
d. In the case where one punching foul
is followed by another, all aspects of the
rule are applied in both cases, and the
team last offended is awarded
possession on the sideline at the free
throw line extended in the frontcourt.
e. A fine not exceeding $35,000 and/or
suspension may be imposed upon such
player(s) by the Commissioner at his
sole discretion.

But wait, there's MORE:

K. PUNCHING, FIGHTING AND
ELBOW FOULS
Violent acts of any nature on the court
will not be tolerated. Players involved in
altercations will be ejected, fined and/or
suspended.
Officials have been instructed to eject a
player who throws a punch, whether or
not it connects, or an elbow which
makes contact above shoulder level. If
elbow contact is shoulder level or
below, it shall be left to the discretion of
the official as to whether the player is
ejected. Even if a punch or an elbow
goes undetected by the officials during
the game, but is detected during a
review of a videotape, that player will be
penalized.
There is absolutely no justification for
fighting in an NBA game.The fact that
you may feel provoked by another
player is not an acceptable excuse. If a
player takes it upon himself to retaliate,
he can expect to be subject to
appropriate penalties.