Reasonable trade ideas

[Big P]

For what Haywood brings, IMO he is not worth about $6 mil per for the next 3 years.

[mardigan]

For what Haywood brings, IMO he is not worth about $6 mil per for the next 3 years.

I had no idea he was making that much money

[timvp]

Chris Duhon has gotten a couple DNP-CD's lately. If the Bulls are interested in Luis Scola, perhaps the Spurs can work out some sort of deal.

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I think someone like Marquis Daniels would be a good fill in for the position, plus he knows the Mavs system

[nkdlunch]

What do you guys think of Haywood?

Elson/Oberto upgrade?

How much would you play here if you are keeping both Elson/Obero?

Yes definitely upgrade on Elson/Oberto. he would fit so good next to Duncan. unfortunately I'm sure the Wiz would make this trade if we offer Elson + maybe barry. BTW, this season Haywood has had his problems w/teammates and coach, maybe this helps.

also I definitely think Spurs should try to bring Daniels back somehow. he is very good as a backup PG.

a possibility:
Beno + Barry + Elson for Haywood + Daniels.

Maybe Spurs could get away w/out offering Barry, instead someone else?

[mardigan]

Those Wiz trade ideas are good ones, as is the Duhon idea, but we aint gettin Marquis Daniels

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Those Wiz trade ideas are good ones, as is the Duhon idea, but we aint gettin Marquis Daniels

Why not? Pacers have Dunleavy, Diogu, Granger and Rawle Marshall. Who can all play the 3

[mardigan]

I just dont see what the Pacers would want from us, except maybe Barry but I dont know if thats enough

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I just dont see what the Pacers would want from us, except maybe Barry but I dont know if thats enough

I agree with that, but we don't have alot that anyone would want

[mardigan]

True, its sad when are most tradable player is in Argentina playing ball, or wherever Scola plays

[AFBlue]

For what Haywood brings, IMO he is not worth about $6 mil per for the next 3 years.

I thought it was more like $4M? Oh well, either way I'd place the importance of the "other" big alongside Duncan below long 3 (a.k.a. small-ball 4) and backup PG.

[SAtown]

OK, officially Pop says no trade via Ticket 760. This is the team we will have for the playoffs. If this is old news, sorry.

[AFBlue]

the sad thing about this is that it seems no one on the spurs has much trade value, other than the triplets. and since the front office will probably never trade or even discuss a trade for one of those three, we're stuck with the team we have until the off-season. if the front office can make a useful trade out of the players we have, they'll have earned that "best executive's in the league" status everyone seems to heap on them.

Agreed for the most part. That's why I started the "If no trade is made, then..." thread because it's very realistic that nothing gets done.

It's not that I think the Spurs can't trade, it's just that I don't think any of their assets outside of the big 3 (Barry, Williams' expiring contract) could bring in a measurably better player, and I think the Spurs FO feels the same.

[AFBlue]

I think someone like Marquis Daniels would be a good fill in for the position, plus he knows the Mavs system

Marquis has a big contract that he got playing over his head for a season with the Mavs. It's not that he's not good, but I doubt he's good enough to justify what the Spurs would give up to get him here and pay him.

[Bruno]

I'm not a big Haywood fan, he is a better center than Oberto/Elson but he has a big contract and will be useless against Mavs like Nazr was. If Spurs are ready to take a player with a contract like that, I rather go after a SF/PF.

[mardigan]

I agree, he can block shots, but would not match up well with Suns/Mavs, plus he has horrible hands and like you said makes like 7 mill a year, I would rather bring in Jeff Foster

[AFBlue]

True, its sad when are most tradable player is in Argentina playing ball, or wherever Scola plays

He's really not the most tradeable player....he's just the most talked about trade asset outside of Barry. What makes him not-so-tradeable is the fact that he brings NO help to a team immediately and that whomever trades for him will still have to pay his buyout with Tau (in Spain, not Argentina) and negotiate an initial contract (3yr $10-15M). That would net them a Euroleague superstar, but one that hasn't played more than a handful of games (world championships, olympics) against the type of "athletes" he'd be facing night in and night out.

EDIT: I'm sure a team would much rather the Spurs do all that initial leg work, see how he pans out in the NBA, then make a bid for him...

[AFBlue]

I'm not a big Haywood fan, he is a better center than Oberto/Elson but he has a big contract and will be useless against Mavs like Nazr was. If Spurs are ready to take a player with a contract like that, I rather go after a SF/PF.

Who you got in mind?

[AFBlue]

I agree, he can block shots, but would not match up well with Suns/Mavs, plus he has horrible hands and like you said makes like 7 mill a year, I would rather bring in Jeff Foster

Who also makes $7M over the next two....

Not saying it shouldn't be done, but I think the Spurs would be hard pressed to do it.

[Bruno]

Who you got in mind?

I don't have a specific name in mind. Maybe SAR.

[mardigan]

Who also makes $7M over the next two....

Not saying it shouldn't be done, but I think the Spurs would be hard pressed to do it.

7 mill over the next two isnt too bad for a guy that can produce like Foster

[AFBlue]

I don't have a specific name in mind. Maybe SAR.

oooh I like...

They'd probably want a front court replacement or two. How much does he make?

Elson + Butler do the trick? Or would it take Williams as well?

[AFBlue]

7 mill over the next two isnt too bad for a guy that can produce like Foster

Produce a ton of rebounds and solid D, but he's an offensive liability.

[Kermit]

foster makes $11.9 million over the next two years. he has a player option worth $6 mil in 07/08.

[mardigan]

Godamn Kermit keeps blowing up my ideas!