Spanoulis is so bad a team is better playing 4 on 5 than having him in there playing for them.
Dude, that was my spoof.
p0wned.
Spanoulis is so bad a team is better playing 4 on 5 than having him in there playing for them.
Yeah, how do the Spurs not pull Hayes out of this deal?
i still wonder about that.
Because RC doesn't want to be wrong about him.
Kinda like Williams, no doubt.
Dude, I'm still not sure this whole Butler/Scola trade thing isn't a spoof myself.Dude, that was my spoof.
p0wned.
Question.
What are the results of the Spurs' efforts in player acquisitions via drafts and trades since 2001?
If I'm thinking correctly, their last decent move was a year's rental of Hedo Turkoglu for a retiring Danny Ferry. That was four years ago.
Oh yeah, that was Presti's idea too.
Why do I get the feeling that pretty soon the Oklahoma City SuperSonics are going to be making deep playoff runs every year?
I told you that in the other thread earlier today. I truly wish I were wrong.
Timvp- I truly am sorry. I know the hopes you had for Butler when he joined the Spurs and I, of all people, completely understand the personal disappointment when it ends this way.
I took alot of crap from people the past week or so about Butler, but I knew it was coming soon. When Ludden wrote what he did today, I knew it was imminent. Those things are said for a reason and as a set-up to prepare the fans for what they are about to do.
I admit that I gave Butler a hard time- mostly because in my mind, he was Rasho's replacement. Elson was really Nazr's replacement. But I did see his recent progress- I just knew it was too late. When Holt decides he wants you gone, it does not matter what you do after that. Learned that the hard way, too.
So, as a consolation, you can go ahead and change my motto to "I love Jackie Butler" for the next month.
I knew it was coming too after today's article. I could live with Butler being traded in a trade that made sense.
Thanks for the gesture of the le change. I will admit that I'd rather have Rasho back at his current salary rather than see this abomination of a trade take place.
But yeah, I guess all Spurs fans know what you felt 13 months.
Uhhhh . . . outbidding zero other teams to get Bonner at 3 million a year?
Posted on ESPN...
http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/news/story?id=2934887
Don Harris was acting as Holt's mouthpiece on the news tonight.
Said getting the second round pick was, in his words, "huge" and that getting Spanoulis was good because he will never come over and that opens up a roster spot next year for Splitter (forgetting that as things stand now we only have 10 open roster spots next year)
Because Horry won't be leaving then and Elson couldn't easily follow him.
Did he seriously say the pick was huge?
I posted that I knew he was gone in that thread.
Bonner had other teams that contacted his agent. However they did not talk to any of them because Matt wanted to come back to SA.
thank god for that!
http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/front/4964549.html
Rockets land Scola, deal Spanoulis to Spurs
By JONATHAN FEIGEN
Copyright 2007 Houston Chronicle
LAS VEGAS -- The Rockets took their search for a power forward around the planet and found just what they wanted available down the road.
The Rockets completed a deal to land forward Luis Scola, one of the stars of Argentina's 2004 gold medal winning Olympic team and twice the MVP of the Spanish league, sending guard Vassilis Spanoulis, a 2009 second-round pick and cash to the Spurs for Scola and reserve center Jackie Butler.
Scola, a 6-foot-9, 230-pound forward that was the 56th player taken in the 2002 Draft, had become one of the most coveted unsigned players in the world, but became increasingly difficult to sign as he became the star of Tau Ceramica (Vitoria, Spain), one of the top traditional powers in Europe.
The Spurs permitted the Rockets to talk with Scola, 27, in recent days and although contract negotiations were not permitted, Rockets general manager Daryl Morey was confident that Scola was ready to make the move to the NBA.
``We're planning to sign Luis,'' Morey said. ``He's excited to play in Houston. We expect to see him in a Rockets uniform next year. Luis is very motivated to come to the league and is very motivated to play with Yao and Tracy.''
``The Spurs gave us permission to speak with him about three days ago and we had a long conversation. It was very positive on both ends.''
Teams are not permitted to make offers until the deal is complete, but the Rockets will likely have to offer between $3 million and $3.5 million for the first year. Morey would not discuss the parameters of the deal he has in mind.
While the deal should bring the Rockets their power forward, it also could mean Spanoulis' freedom.
Spanoulis and his agent, Miodrag Raznatovic, could not be reached on Thursday, but last week Raznatovic said Spanoulis would never play for the Rockets or any team in the United States. He even added ``They could trade him to San Antonio and he could be the starting point guard, and he would he would say, `No, I cannot.' ''
Spanoulis played in 31 games last season, averaging 2.7 points and .9 assists in 8.8 minutes per game. He made 31.9 percent of his shot, 17.2 percent of his 3-pointers.
Butler, a 6-10, 260 center, played in just 11 games with the Spurs, after he was acquired from the Knicks. Butler, 22, has averaged five points 53.9 percent shooting in 69 career games.
Morey said the deal does not in any change the Rockets' intentions to sign both Chuck Hayes and Dikembe Mutombo, though with the little room likely left in the mid-level exception, the Rockets could try to sign Mutombo for the veteran's minimum.
Butler has one guaranteed season, worth $2.35 million, remaining on his contract.
``Jackie is someone we wanted in the deal,'' Morey said. ``Obviously, we had a need at center. He'll have a shot to prove it.''
But the prize in the deal was Scola.
``He has a pretty complete game in terms of an offensive skill-set, defensive integrity. He was MVP of the Spanish League, the best league outside the US, two of the last three years. He's been Euroleague first team which I would say makes him a top five player over the there.
``If I had to describe him, he's just a winner.''
If the best we can do this year with our second rounder is Marcus " ing" Williams then I don't think any future 2nd rounders can be considered "Huge".
Your point sucks. Further, we weren't talking about Butler being a 20 and 10 guy for the 2007-2008 Spurs. Try reading sometime.
This was about the Spurs trading two of their more valuable commodities for an ass raping from Houston.
The Spurs are already making money. This saves Holt 4 million next year, when the franchise has already increased in value 150 million. Total bull .what's more, the business of business is to make money, regardless of the product (thus the clippers continue to exist). do you seriously think the spurs are going to miss the playoffs because of this trade? or get bumped out of the first round?
Where did anyone say we would miss the playoffs next year? Or get beat in the first round?
Seeings you are too stupid to comprehend, let me spell it out:
1. The Spurs gave a division rival with a glaring weakness a solution to said weakness.... for nothing
2. The Spurs gave up a talented young big man who had been busting his ass and doing everything the Spurs asked him including dropping 30 pounds in 8 months... for nothing.
3. The Spurs put 4 million more in Holt's pocket for next year, and as far as improving the team next year or the future, it did absolutely nothing.
Butler was 21 in NY playing for a coach in Larry Brown who notoriously favored veterans over young players. Try againwhy would he not do it? this outcry just seems over the top for an unproven scola and bench-rider for not only a championship team but the league's worst team in new york, regardless of what brown whispered to pop about potential.
You can give them whatever you want. The last time the Spurs put this many ancient role players around TD, they got spanked by the Lakers. Don't be surprised if it happens again in 2008, only at the hands of the Mavs.all i'm saying is that i'm willing to give them the benefit of the doubt, the idea being they've proven they've got enough moxy to make a team run and that duncan is that great along with manu and tony.
Again, try reading. I was talking about AFTER 2008. For someone who is trying to come off as knowledgeable about the business world as you are, one would think you could read a sentence and make sense of it.and as for our roster, give me a break. butler wasn't making that huge of a difference and we actually have 12 folks on the roster, not five.
Who thinks Scola will be a 15/5 guy for Adelman?
There you go, $3 mil starting for 3 years for a total of $10 mil.Teams are not permitted to make offers until the deal is complete, but the Rockets will likely have to offer between $3 million and $3.5 million for the first year. Morey would not discuss the parameters of the deal he has in mind.
Maybe the Spurs salvage a little out of this deal by nabbing Hayes.Morey said the deal does not in any change the Rockets' intentions to sign both Chuck Hayes and Dikembe Mutombo, though with the little room likely left in the mid-level exception, the Rockets could try to sign Mutombo for the veteran's minimum.
It's almost a perfect situation for him.
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