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    What about that trade exception though Bruno?

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    It's great that the Spurs are in the business of giving away talent for free.

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    What about that trade exception though Bruno?
    I don't get what do you want to say.

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    Just saying if they get that trade exception from the Cavs, will that give the Spurs more $$$ to play with to try to sign someone like Udoka or Pietrus?

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    Just saying if they get that trade exception from the Cavs, will that give the Spurs more $$$ to play with to try to sign someone like Udoka or Pietrus?
    Spurs will use the MLE to sign Udoka or Pietrus.
    The edge of trading Beno for a trade exception isn't to get a trade exception but to save money. However, Spurs won't save a lot of money by doing that.
    If Spurs want to stay under the tax and want to sign Udoka, they will need to dump Barry. If Holt agree to have a payroll slighty above the luxury tax, dumping Beno could be enough to sign a player like Udoka.

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    Just saying if they get that trade exception from the Cavs, will that give the Spurs more $$$ to play with to try to sign someone like Udoka or Pietrus?
    But you will probably need to sign another PG with some of that $$- unless you want to keep Barry and use him as the third PG.

    The Spurs have the MLE to sign whomever they want if they didn't have to worry about luxury tax.

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    How bout Jalen Rose as a backup point guard....that would be nice and wouldnt cost too much.

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    Spurs will use the MLE to sign Udoka or Pietrus.
    The edge of trading Beno for a trade exception isn't to get a trade exception but to save money. However, Spurs won't save a lot of money by doing that.
    If Spurs want to stay under the tax and want to sign Udoka, they will need to dump Barry. If Holt agree to have a payroll slighty above the luxury tax, dumping Beno could be enough to sign a player like Udoka.

    Thanks.

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    Is James White the cat that came out in the middle of the season and had a little playing time but played pretty well. I remember a game or too when one of the reserves got to play and he did really good , hittin threes and stuff. Was that White...it had to be ..its wasnt Ely or Butler for sure..

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    I think you're talking about White unless you are talking about Eric Williams.

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    I just saw this on insidehoops.com , its from the houston cronicle

    The Spurs cleared nearly $5 million of cap and luxury tax money with the move, as well as opening a roster spot and laying the groundwork for signing 7-0 Spanish league star Tiago Splitter, who is five years younger and might project as a better NBA talent than Scola. "(The Spurs) are going to use this deal to help themselves, too," said Rockets GM Daryl Morey, who needed a good, big move in the worst way after a sluggish start at the controls. "It turned out to be a deal that helps both teams. And we'll meet in the Western Conference finals, hopefully."

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    yeah i think it was White...thanks

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    I just saw this on insidehoops.com , its from the houston cronicle

    The Spurs cleared nearly $5 million of cap and luxury tax money with the move, as well as opening a roster spot and laying the groundwork for signing 7-0 Spanish league star Tiago Splitter, who is five years younger and might project as a better NBA talent than Scola. "(The Spurs) are going to use this deal to help themselves, too," said Rockets GM Daryl Morey, who needed a good, big move in the worst way after a sluggish start at the controls. "It turned out to be a deal that helps both teams. And we'll meet in the Western Conference finals, hopefully."
    The Chronicle is mistaken then....because Splitter isn't eligible to come from Europe until next year, when he has a $1M buyout.

    And on White...he wasn't a big shooter when he played for the Spurs last year, but he was very good at being aggressive and slashing through the lane. His shot actually needs some work...it's a bit flat.

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    I read that the Grizzlies have also talked with Udoka.


    Griz turn their attention to shooting, defense(Memphis Commercial Appeal)

    With their need for frontcourt help mostly addressed by the signing of Darko Milicic, the Grizzlies have turned their attention toward adding perimeter shooting and defense.
    Memphis has inquired about free agent swingmen Ime Udoka (Portland) and Matt Barnes (Golden State) as options in those areas. Both players are unrestricted free agents, meaning they can sign with any team without their former team having a right to match the deal.

    Spanish guard Juan Carlos Navarro, whose rights belong to the Washington Wizards, is also a player of interest for the Grizzlies.
    But striking a deal with Washington and satisfying the $3 million-plus salary Navarro would command is looking like a long shot for the Griz.

    "We've made our inquiries but I can't put any definitive odds on whether we can acquire him," Griz general manager Chris Wallace said.

    Meanwhile, Navarro told a European publication that "the Memphis thing is complicated. Pau (Gasol) wants me there no matter what, but there are other teams ahead."

    It's difficult to discern which team is the leading candidate to land Udoka's services.

    Udoka's agent, Erin Cowan, told the Portland Tribune that he is dealing with at least three teams. San Antonio is believed to be interested in Udoka, whose skill set is in the mold of Bruce Bowen.

    Udoka averaged 8.4 points and 3.7 rebounds while starting 75 games for Portland. Soon to be 30, Udoka is a tough defender and a reliable 3-point shooter.

    Barnes is similar, given he connected on 106 3-pointers last season.

    Wallace spoke with Barnes' agent, Dan Fegan, extensively last week during the NBA Summer League in Las Vegas. Fegan also represents Cleveland free agent Anderson Varejao.

    The Griz have 11 players under contract.

    Following Tuesday's introduction of Milicic, Wallace said the Griz would add only two additional players. He added that the process had no timetable.

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    Ime Udoka: Doing what he does for someone else
    Posted by Casey Holdahl July 18, 2007 08:55AM
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    Good to be back in the land of green trees, real people and cheap beer. A big thanks to everyone who said stopped by the media table to say o in Las Vegas. Lets do it again next year.

    So while I've triumphantly returned to Portland, it sounds more and more like Ime Udoka won't be doing the same. Word out of Memphis today is that the Grizzlies are in the running for Ime's services:

    Memphis has inquired about free agent swingmen Ime Udoka (Portland) and Matt Barnes (Golden State) as options in those areas. Both players are unrestricted free agents, meaning they can sign with any team without their former team having a right to match the deal.
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    It's difficult to discern which team is the leading candidate to land Udoka's services.

    Udoka's agent, Erin Cowan, told the Portland Tribune that he is dealing with at least three teams. San Antonio is believed to be interested in Udoka, whose skill set is in the mold of Bruce Bowen.

    Udoka averaged 8.4 points and 3.7 rebounds while starting 75 games for Portland. Soon to be 30, Udoka is a tough defender and a reliable 3-point shooter.


    And speaking of San Antonio and Bruce Bowen, the Dime Smack Daily Blog says it's bad news for the rest of the league if Ime ends up a Spur:

    The Tribune also says the Spurs are likely one of the teams most interested in Ime Udoka. Just what the rest of the League needs; another lock-down style defender in San Antonio. We saw games where Udoka personally gave LeBron problems in a Bruce Bowen-ish manner, and he's not a liability offensively (8.4 ppg, 40% from three) ...
    Udoka leaving might be the opening Travis Outlaw needs to do something in the League. The Blazers re-signed Outlaw (3 yrs, $12 million) yesterday. So far whenever we watch Outlaw, he's done his thing when Portland is up by 20, down by 20, or it's the end of the year and the games don't matter. One of these days he's gotta start making an impact in meaningful games ...

    http://blog.oregonlive.com/blazers/2...he_does_f.html

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    And speaking of San Antonio and Bruce Bowen, the Dime Smack Daily Blog says it's bad news for the rest of the league if Ime ends up a Spur:

    The Tribune also says the Spurs are likely one of the teams most interested in Ime Udoka. Just what the rest of the League needs; another lock-down style defender in San Antonio. We saw games where Udoka personally gave LeBron problems in a Bruce Bowen-ish manner, and he's not a liability offensively (8.4 ppg, 40% from three) ...
    Which means the Spurs won't sign him, even though they just made a horrid trade that brought them $7 mil in payroll reduction and cash combined.

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    I wonder how long it will take the Grizzlies to this contract situation up with a stupid offer. And yes....I know MB will want to outbid the saavy team that finished last this year....and still didn't wind up with a decent lottery pick.

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    As a person who doesn't understand the financial aspect of the NBA----- Can't the Spurs sign Udoka for 2.5-3 mill-yr. and be right at the luxury tax? Isn't that the same that they saved by cutting Butler?

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    I'm serious, Udoka and Bowen on opposing teams would be down right scary.

    Parker is a good defender on most points.

    Udoka can cover about any SG in an above average manner.

    Bowen is lockdown.

    Duncan is a beast defender on the block.

    The Spurs could be scary with that tight defense.

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    As a person who doesn't understand the financial aspect of the NBA----- Can't the Spurs sign Udoka for 2.5-3 mill-yr. and be right at the luxury tax? Isn't that the same that they saved by cutting Butler?
    Even with the Butler dump, the Spurs are still above the lux tax threshold...though not by much.

    If they wanted to spend another $3M or so, they'll have to pay a dollar-for-dollar tax to the NBA. So that's why most speculate that Barry will be gone if the Spurs add another piece like Udoka.

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    I'm serious, Udoka and Bowen on opposing teams would be down right scary.

    Parker is a good defender on most points.

    Udoka can cover about any SG in an above average manner.

    Bowen is lockdown.

    Duncan is a beast defender on the block.

    The Spurs could be scary with that tight defense.
    Just imagine they would also have a REAL shotblocker next to TD!!! That would be awesome...

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    Today is supposedly the day Udoka will make his decision. Hopefully it's the Spurs but the longer this drags out, the less likely that'll be the case.

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    How do you figure?

    The Spurs are notorious for waiting out and making moves late into the off-season.

    Udoka has interest from Memphis, but that can just be leverage for some extra bucks from the Spurs.

    Portland could also sign and trade him, but I don't know how much good that will do them since there roster is already at 15.

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    Just imagine they would also have a REAL shotblocker next to TD!!! That would be awesome...

    if only cisco elson could learn to play some defense, he has the speed and quickness at that position since d-rob.

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