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    Let me push it...

    Would you be happy with the deal or wish it was not done?

    Again, presuming they exhausted all other options.

    What's done is done. I think I might get a little disenchanted when money becomes an issue, considering the sweet little arena deal the franchise has, but it is what it is. No amount of ing is going to change what is. So enjoy the success, see what options are available to improve, and enjoy the fact that the rest of the league is trying desperately to keep up with the San Antonio Spurs.

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    Spurs/Kings nearing deal?

    The latest from Sac Bee's Sam Amick:

    12:22 p.m.
    The Spurs may be nearing a deal for Artest, although it's also believed Denver may finally be willing to give up Linas Kleiza. Of course, my flight from Portland to Sacramento is at this very moment, so we'll see where things stand when I land.

    http://www.sacbee.com/static/weblogs/sports/kings/

    Well at least a first round pick would be going out the door. One could hope that the Spurs could be able to use their trade exception along with Barry to make the salaries match and then have Elson available to perhaps use in another small deal (ie Damien Wilkins). Of course, the Spurs might prefer to keep their big in that scenario.

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    I wonder what the Spurs would be giving up. Could be a lot.

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    Holy crap.

    This trade talk is for real, I guess. This is now the fourth or fifth place that I've heard an Artest trade is nearing reality.

    Amazing.

    Amazing?

    No.

    Willed?

    Yes.



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    Wow. Color me somewhat surprised if this happens.

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    My heart is pounding.

    Is this why "fan" is short for "fanatic"?

    I've wanted Artest on this team for over 7 years now.

    I really believe the Spurs can de-balla him and he can contribute here.

    How cool would it be for the Spurs to answer the rest of the West with a pimp move like this.

    Back-to-back, baby!

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    They're probably just using the local media to ratchet up the pressure on Denver to throw in Kleiza.

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    They're probably just using the local media to ratchet up the pressure on Denver to throw in Kleiza.

    That's the feeling I'm getting. Denver wants to make a move to get into the top 4 in the West, especially with the amount they have invested in their roster. If a player they're very interested in could go to the Spurs then that should shake a little extra change out of their pockets.

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    An Artest to SA trade looks really similar to the Rasheed to Detroit trade in 2004.
    Detroit get Rasheed, a headcase with an expiring contract, for expiring contract and a first round pick.

    I think Kings can get slightly more than Atlanta get for Rasheed because they aren't in a must trade mode.
    I just hope this trade, if it happens, will have the same result for Spurs in 08 than for Pistons in 04.

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    On a side note, doesn't AI to SA in '09 seem inevitable?

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    Artest doesn't really fit with Denver. He will mainly have to play out of position at SG and Denver needs shooter, especially if Kleiza is gone.
    Anyway, it's George Karl and I wouldn't be surprised to see him doing a trade that doesn't make a lot of sense roster wise.

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    On a side note, doesn't AI to SA in '09 seem inevitable?
    No.

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    How so? Veteran star. Been there, done that. Looking for a ring. By that time Denver will have gone as far as they are going to go.

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    yea the spurs wont make this deal....i would be shocked if it happens!!!! mentioning the spurs only puts more pressure on denver.

    if the spurs do get artest do u start him at the pf?

    i like the trade honestly....but it just doesnt seem right

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    yea the spurs wont make this deal....i would be shocked if it happens!!!! mentioning the spurs only puts more pressure on denver.

    if the spurs do get artest do u start him at the pf?

    i like the trade honestly....but it just doesnt seem right

    No. They already have someone there.

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    I'm trying to buy that this trade could be legit but it just doesn't sound possible. Artest to the Spurs? Eh, just doesn't compute. If the Spurs wanted Artest, they could have gotten him for HITA six years ago.

    Perhaps the Spurs are trying to drive up Artest's asking price so that he doesn't go to a contender cheaply. Artest guards Manu pretty well so the Spurs wouldn't want him to end up with a contender without the contender having to give up something of value.

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    I'm trying to buy that this trade could be legit but it just doesn't sound possible. Artest to the Spurs? Eh, just doesn't compute. If the Spurs wanted Artest, they could have gotten him for HITA six years ago.

    Perhaps the Spurs are trying to drive up Artest's asking price so that he doesn't go to a contender cheaply. Artest guards Manu pretty well so the Spurs wouldn't want him to end up with a contender without the contender having to give up something of value.

    Probably so. Then again, maybe they are willing to risk it.

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    yea the spurs wont make this deal....i would be shocked if it happens!!!! mentioning the spurs only puts more pressure on denver.

    if the spurs do get artest do u start him at the pf?
    They wouldn't start him there, but they would sure play him there a lot.

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    I'm trying to buy that this trade could be legit but it just doesn't sound possible. Artest to the Spurs? Eh, just doesn't compute. If the Spurs wanted Artest, they could have gotten him for HITA six years ago.

    Perhaps the Spurs are trying to drive up Artest's asking price so that he doesn't go to a contender cheaply. Artest guards Manu pretty well so the Spurs wouldn't want him to end up with a contender without the contender having to give up something of value.
    Well, they didn't want him six years ago. Things were very different, and Ron Artest wasn't Ron Artest yet.

    That said, I can't believe this is possible, either.

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    and can the spurs involve ime udoka in a trade?

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    Artest in SA would come off the bench, playing some at the 3 and on occasion at the 4 as matchups dictate. That makes the most sense; limits the change needed should Artest do something stupid and be unavailable, matches Artest up against other team's second units, and allows the Spurs to maintain continuity with their starting 5.

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    and can the spurs involve ime udoka in a trade?

    Why?

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    No. They already have someone there.

    its called smallball sucker

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    and can the spurs involve ime udoka in a trade?
    Please, no.

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    its called smallball sucker
    It's called clarity, dumbass.

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