Suns and Heat in Talks of Marion/Shaq Trade

[timvp]

Horry seems to underperform when going up against Shaq. And Horry cannot guard him...see the 04 playoffs for a reminder of this.

Honestly...Bonner might do a good job against Shaq.

What world did I step into where the Suns are bigger and stronger than the Spurs and whottt is advocating Bonner over Horry?

This Shaq trade just missed up the universe's equalibrium.

[whottt]

Actually...I think this move makes keeping Barry a smart option.


We won't be able to outrun the Suns...the difference is that they just became scary in the half court...


Well...Tim Duncan alone can pretty much hang with anyone in a half court game...provided he has shooters. And Barry is the best shooter on this team.


Time to start thinking like it's 02 again...complete with the return of Ghost Writer.

[T Park]

Honestly, now that Im thinking about it.

If the Spurs were to only win 1 more ring, this is the year.

The Lakers get flashier and more famous.

The Suns get O'Neal a player whos flummoxed the Spurs time and time again.

The Media now adores Phoenix and LA alot, but now even more, espcially with Diesel back in the west.



If the Spurs won this year, not only would it cement the dynasty, it would also leave teams shaking their head saying

"We can't think of anything else to do"

[timvp]

I hope the Suns get off to a decent start with Shaq. Otherwise Kerr might fire D'Antoni and name himself as coach.

Now that would suck.

[T Park]

Actually...I think this move makes keeping Barry a smart option.


We won't be able to outrun the Suns...the difference is that they just became scary in the half court...


Well...Tim Duncan alone can pretty much hang with anyone in a half court game...provided he has shooters. And Barry is the best shooter on this team.

All I can say, is the er better not choke like he did in 06 vs the damn Mavericks.

[SenorSpur]

Yeah, out of all the West contenders, the Spurs are least effected by the Shaq and Gasol trades. The Spurs play best when they don't have to go small.

However, it's kinda scary to think the Spurs' championship hopes ride on Horry. If Horry can defend Gasol and Stoudemire and then hit threes on the other end, the Spurs will have no problem with the Lakers or Suns. If he can't? It'd be a lot harder for the Spurs.

Just in case the Spurs might try to go out and get a bigger, thicker big to be able to throw at Shaq and Bynum. Even if it's just PJ Brown or Dale Davis, the Spurs need a big with some strength. The West went from small ball back to 2003 overnight.

Spurs DO need another big because they usually get nothing from the Elson/Oberto combination. Funny how the Spurs migrated to these two because they wanted to have more lineup flexibility in a small-ball scenario. Now the size and strength they got rid of is now what they need again.

[T Park]

I hope the Suns get off to a decent start with Shaq. Otherwise Kerr might fire D'Antoni and name himself as coach.

Now that would suck.

Or


try and get Larry Brown.


if either one happened I'd prob just wave the white flag

[T Park]

Spurs DO need another big because they usually get nothing from the Elson/Oberto combination. Funny how the Spurs migrated to these two because they wanted to have more lineup flexibility in a small-ball scenario. Now the size and strength they got rid of is now what they need again.

Like TIMVP said, it became 2003 overnight

[hsxvvd]

Udoka can take Stoudamire.

Ok, he's smaller, but he's a load smarter!

[whottt]

What world did I step into where the Suns are bigger and stronger than the Spurs and whottt is advocating Bonner over Horry?

This Shaq trade just missed up the universe's equalibrium.

I don't like Horry against Shaq or the Lakers...he's proven to be unHorry like against them.

[ManuTim_best of Fwiendz]

More like Amare probably grew up idolizing Shaq...in fact I'm pretty sure I've heard him say that before.

And Shaq acknowledged that Amare reminds him of a mini-version of himself.

[whottt]

All I can say, is the er better not choke like he did in 06 vs the damn Mavericks.

Doesn't matter if he takes no shots or makes no shots...he doesn't get doubled off of, especially by Mike D'Antoni, that alone makes Duncan's job easier.


Unlike Hedo.



See a different game.

[timvp]

Spurs DO need another big because they usually get nothing from the Elson/Oberto combination. Funny how the Spurs migrated to these two because they wanted to have more lineup flexibility in a small-ball scenario. Now the size and strength they got rid of is now what they need again.

Yeah, the Spurs evolved to handle small ball. Now unless Webber or Shaq go down injured, small ball is dead. Time to evolve back into real basketball again.

[T Park]

I guarantee you after this news, Pop is not sleeping well.

[marini martini]

I don't like Horry against Shaq or the Lakers...he's proven to be unHorry like against them.

Hi Whott!

[E20]

Everyone is being too pessimistic. Shaq will be a bust and not pan out and everybody look back and laugh at this thread. As far as making the Suns more tight knit, then . Marion was the only one on the Suns team with inside turmoil of trade talks.

[T Park]

Yeah, the Spurs evolved to handle small ball. Now unless Webber or Shaq go down injured, small ball is dead. Time to evolve back into real basketball again.

Is Pop doing this?




WTF does this mean for Udoka?

No more small ball. They pretty much got him for the reason of small ball did they not?

[hsxvvd]

Shaq and Stoudamire = Curry and Randolph

Not enough room for them both.

[E20]

Are Spurs fans seriously worried about Old man Shaq and the artist formely known as choke this time with bad knees? The Warriors and Suns are good teams nonetheless, but these acquistions don't put them over the top against the Spurs. (healthy that is)

[J.T.]

Everyone is being too pessimistic. Shaq will be a bust and not pan out and everybody look back and laugh at this thread. As far as making the Suns more tight knit, then . Marion was the only one on the Suns team with inside turmoil of trade talks.

Quit thinking of Shaq in terms of Apollo Creed in Rocky IV.

It's called the Randy Moss effect. Trade a guy from a team that sucks to a team that's good and suddenly he wants to play again.

[hsxvvd]

I've hated small ball, I've wanted Pop to play real basketball again, but he is clearly a genius... it's the perfect remedy!

Dallas is still my only real concern.

[whottt]

Everyone is being too pessimistic. Shaq will be a bust and not pan out and everybody look back and laugh at this thread. As far as making the Suns more tight knit, then . Marion was the only one on the Suns team with inside turmoil of trade talks.

It's not a case of pessimism...it's a case of a bunch of asshats laughing about the Suns aquiring Shaq ing O'neal...like it's a ing joke or something.


Just the fact that the Suns fans think it was a stupid trade should tell you that it was a good one.

[ManuTim_best of Fwiendz]

Are Spurs fans seriously worried about Old man Shaq and the artist formely known as choke this time with bad knees? The Warriors and Suns are good teams nonetheless, but these acquistions don't put them over the top against the Spurs.

Well his presence alone is something to account for, just because he's so big...even if he's ailing and gimpy, or doesn't take the same amount of shots.

But yeah, I don't know why it bothers some Spurs fans, we've beaten Shaq who's had a good squad around before.
Shaq and Amare get into foul trouble enough as it is, more free throws for us.

[T Park]

Just the fact that the Suns fans think it was a stupid trade should tell you that it was a good one.

Hollinger thinking it was bad was what flipped me.

[T Park]

Shaq and Stoudamire = Curry and Randolph

Not enough room for them both.

Only problem is neither Randolph or Curry want to win.

Shaq is dying to win again.