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    get over it Pop. Scared of a bit of compe ion?
    Not from Denver.

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    I gotta admit if I were a Spur's fan I'd be pissed too.

    Kobe Bryant, Pau Gasol, Andrew Bynum, Lamar Odom, Derek Fisher, Phil Jackson

    That's as formidable a starting 5 as there is in the NBA and it's only going to get better as the years go by. Gasol was born to play in the triangle offense, scoring 30 pts against D12 shooting 12-15 in only his 3rd game with the Lakers tells me he is going to have a long future in LA. Bynum is only 20 and if he ever reaches his true potential there is not a team in this league that would be able to contain him, Kobe Bryant, and Gasol at the same time.

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    You do not talk sarcasm or poke fun of ur opponent every day....Think about Spur's forum reaction if Spurs made the trade and Jackson talk like this every day.

    First of all this trade is not bad. I do not find any bad motive among these two teams. Memphis wants to sell the team and wants to get ride of guys that are making big salaries. Just happened that Lakers were in right place at right time. They came up with Brown's contract that is expiring this year.

    Do not forget the fact that SA did similar stuff with Scola.
    Right place at the right time my a**. The whole league was caught by surprise -- except the "guilty" parties.

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    I'd bet that the Spurs threw a few scenarios at the Grizz when they were pursuing Gasol awhile back that were probably more lucrative than what LA gave up to get Gasol now.

    That's the only way I can explain Pop being this pissed about this trade. I'm sure he was like "WTF, we offered better than a crappy center and a bag of chips...we offered TWO crappy centers and a bag of chips!!!" , this was last year when Butler was still around so perhaps his quote was more like "...THREE crappy centers and a bag of chips!!!"

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    I think having discussed with other GMs, he may feel that, as the reigning NBA champion and as a GM of the most respected organization in the league, he has the legitimacy and the responsibility to say on record what's being said off.
    Pop isn't even the GM.

    If some GM who wanted to trade for Pau says he thought the asking price was too high A COUPLE OF WEEKS AGO and he did not call back every day, then HE is stupid. He claims if he knew the demands changed, then he would have made another offer. Well, he should have stayed on top of it. The one GM who says it caught people by surprise because of the timing of the trade-- not closer to the deadline- shows these guys all got outsmarted.

    No team is under any obligation to make some trade that another particular team claims is THE best trade. Who knows- maybe the GM of the Grizzlies thinks the guy is an asshole and simply does not want to do business with him.

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    One and done ...BLAH, BLAH, BLAH...
    15 hours later...he responds by opening pie hole.

    One and done should be your mission statement for your existence here.

    Dude your posts still suck and I gotta tell you...YOU DO REALIZE THATYOUR PRIMARY TEAM HASN'T WON ANYTHING IN 4 SEASONS, and that your other other team has never won it all?

    Hey...you can count to 4 right?




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    Pop isn't even the GM.

    If some GM who wanted to trade for Pau says he thought the asking price was too high A COUPLE OF WEEKS AGO and he did not call back every day, then HE is stupid. He claims if he knew the demands changed, then he would have made another offer. Well, he should have stayed on top of it. The one GM who says it caught people by surprise because of the timing of the trade-- not closer to the deadline- shows these guys all got outsmarted.

    No team is under any obligation to make some trade that another particular team claims is THE best trade. Who knows- maybe the GM of the Grizzlies thinks the guy is an asshole and simply does not want to do business with him.
    Ssshhh we all know if the trade doesnt work in NBA 2k8 Spurs fans will cry collusion.

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    Pop is even more GM than you think. When you are The Executive Vice-President of Basketball Operations, you OWN the GM...think about it.

    Collusion...it seems like it...it just can't be proved...yet.

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    Phil Jackson should buy Pop a lifetime supply of Proactive. That dude has more craters on his face than the moon.

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    Lakers only defended their le during their 3 peat run due to the most sublime referring in game 6 and a big shot in game 5 by
    Horry. Even Shaq and Kobe were not invinceable. Regards, Peter

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    Damn Rummpd you forget about 01' so quickly when the Spurs lost in the most lopsided NBA Conference Finals in HISTORY? We only lost 1 game in the entire playoffs that year.

    And yes they don't call him Big-Shot Bob for nothing. I believe you guys benefited from a well-timed hip check to a certain Steve Nash last year.

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    The retort to an argument about '02 is pointing to '01?

    Do Lakers fans just choose to forget 1999?

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    The retort to an argument about '02 is pointing to '01?

    Do Lakers fans just choose to forget 1999?
    1999? None of these guys were Laker fans yet.

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    Was Phil Jackson coaching in 1999? Didn't think so. And yes he made all the difference for the Lakers.

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    Was Phil Jackson coaching in 1999? Didn't think so. And yes he made all the difference for the Lakers.
    After getting their asses kicked in '03, Kobe, Shaq and Phil got on their knees and beg and fellatioed Payton and Malone to come save them from those big, mean Spurs. I remeber their crying well.

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    Well you can hold onto that '03 victory because that's the only one you got on us during our 5 year domination of the NBA. 3 les, back to back to back.

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    Well you can hold onto that '03 victory because that's the only one you got on us during our 5 year domination of the NBA. 3 les, back to back to back.
    Not the Spurs fault the Lakers couldn't man up with the rest of the West for the last 3 years. Maybe now that West got Wallace to bend over for the Lakers they can hang with the rest again.

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    happens all the time just like when Minne was dealing under the table with Joe Smith and the Pats filming other teams except for the fact that these two teams got caught. Spurs en tanked and they landed the number one pick. Why aren't they investigated? Not giving your all is a major sin in sports. Robert Horry plays dirty against the Suns and the Spurs get rewarded. If Pop wants to talk about a basketball committee the committee would have en vetoed the Shaq for Grant, Lamar, and Butler trade and also the Butler for Kwame trade and also the Scola for peanuts trade so he should shut his ugly face. All these recent trades for the Lakers that went down have been in their favor just like his "thank god they tore down the Berlin Wall or broke up the Soviet Union" or some like that comment about when the Lakers traded Shaq. Hypocritical two face whiny Pop should shut his trap. en Bill Belichick of basketball.
    I agree with you. Spurs should also be investigated for causing global warming.

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    I agree with you. Spurs should also be investigated for causing global warming.
    They should. There are a lot of big flatulent things in San Antonio.

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    Fantasy basketball has more restrictions on collusion than the NBA.
    greatest point ever

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    Question...how is it a 5 year domination when you only won 3 les?

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    Pop isn't even the GM.

    If some GM who wanted to trade for Pau says he thought the asking price was too high A COUPLE OF WEEKS AGO and he did not call back every day, then HE is stupid. He claims if he knew the demands changed, then he would have made another offer. Well, he should have stayed on top of it. The one GM who says it caught people by surprise because of the timing of the trade-- not closer to the deadline- shows these guys all got outsmarted.

    No team is under any obligation to make some trade that another particular team claims is THE best trade. Who knows- maybe the GM of the Grizzlies thinks the guy is an asshole and simply does not want to do business with him.
    You know it's not the way it's working right ?

    GM's are surprised because things didn't follow the regular, unwritten rules between them.
    Negociations are supposed to be tight and difficult for a guy like Gasol and Wolves were in good position to negociate cos there wasn't any urgency for them. , Gasol was on the blocks for 1 and a half year.

    Don't you think Bulls, for example, didn't make a best offer than the Lakers ?
    And I don't think Paxson is such an asshole that Wolves didn't want to deal with him. There's no such considerations anyway in business.
    They saw better offers rejected during this span and suddenly, this trade ?

    Other GM's didn't get outsmarted, they were certainly preparing their best, last offer for the ASG.
    There was just no in' way they could have imagined such an early, bizarre trade. That's why, they are shoked.
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    Gasol trade irks Spurs coach
    Popovich calls swap incomprehensible
    By Ronald Tillery (Contact)
    Sunday, February 10, 2008

    NEW ORLEANS -- Grizzlies head coach Marc Iavaroni would rather his team continue to battle opponents on the basketball floor. Not in a court of public opinion.

    Iavaroni took the high road Saturday although he was well aware of the sharp criticism his team recently received from San Antonio Spurs coach Gregg Popovich.

    Popovich, who also serves as the Spurs' president of basketball operations, called the trade that sent Pau Gasol to the Los Angeles Lakers for draft picks and salary-cap flexibility an incomprehensible deal.

    "He's a great coach and they do a good job there," Iavaroni said when asked about Popovich's critique. "I don't read into anyone else's comments. That's just the nature of the league. People have a right to their opinion. We're just taking care of our best interests."

    The Griz received Kwame Brown, rookie Javaris Crittenton, the rights to Marc Gasol and first-round picks in 2008 and 2010.

    "What they did in Memphis is beyond comprehension," Popovich told SI.com. "There should be a trade committee that can scratch all trades that make no sense. I just wish I had been on a trade committee that oversees NBA trades. I would have voted no to the L.A. trade."

    Last week, Griz general manager Chris Wallace expressed outrage that other NBA general managers leaked details of Gasol offers to national media, and then anonymously criticized their deal with the Lakers.

    "Well, there you go," Popovich said. "I'm on the record."

    Brown, with an expiring $9million contract, was the key to the transaction. The Griz are expected to clear $12 million-$13 million under the salary cap to shop for free agents this summer. If they stay idle in free agency, the Griz could have as much as $17 million to spend in 2009.

    Popovich wasn't the only high-profiled NBA guru to put a spin on the deal.

    Former Griz president and Lakers legend Jerry West granted the Los Angeles Times a rare interview, and praised the Lakers for doing the deal. Reportedly, acquiring Gasol could cost the Lakers $30million in luxury tax payments.

    "(Gasol's) a terrific kid, a very skilled offensive player," West told the newspaper. "He's got size and some versatility. He's a very good player. It's a terrific deal for the Lakers. He's a wonderful person. Very team-oriented. If you're around him, you'll find he's not aloof. I have nothing critical to say about him. This is a steal for the present."

    West also insisted he didn't broker the transaction, which backed up Griz owner Michael Heisley's statements when asked about rampant speculation to the contrary. West insisted he isn't involved with any team.

    "And I'm not going to be," he said.

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    Damn Rummpd you forget about 01' so quickly when the Spurs lost in the most lopsided NBA Conference Finals in HISTORY? We only lost 1 game in the entire playoffs that year.

    And yes they don't call him Big-Shot Bob for nothing. I believe you guys benefited from a well-timed hip check to a certain Steve Nash last year.

    Spurs only lost 2x in one of their runs as well. Spurs were also missing their 2nd leading scorer in the series you quote due to injury. The LAL were a very good team but the Spurs are now their equal and in this last decade the more dominant franchise.

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