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Almost every stat favors Harris over Kidd. I'll put more into what the stats say than some homer that will defend whatever moves the mavs make no matter what.
No - The team is now weaker in crucial areas
Yes - Kidd is what is needed to get them that championship
what he fails to realize is that we've had too much experience watching the so called team that he "saying" we have. And it wasn't working. You're assuming that harris can do and be successful in all of wat you mentioned when all of us whom actually "watch" the games, know otherwise.
You can pull whatever stat you want out of your ass but Harris was just not as consistent as you think he'd be. Good luck to Devin. Roll out with what we got.
Almost every stat favors Harris over Kidd. I'll put more into what the stats say than some homer that will defend whatever moves the mavs make no matter what.
Yeah and it's bad to have slashers when Dirk is creating in the high post.Terry is a good player but I'll take Harris's slashing, fastbreak points, and defense against point guards over Terry's shooting. Kidd is a good enough spot shooter like already mentioned so I don't think zone would work.
Kidd is about the same as Alston. Check their stats out now that Kidd is no longer with the Nets. Alston as PG blah. Kidd also the same.
Kidd is no Nash
Exactly. He can keep his man in front of him.
Since the '06 season, Devin Harris' record in games where he plays more than 15 minutes as a Maverick is 145-42. This season, before being traded, he was 27-10. Though it's down from the total of .775, the percentage is better than anyone but the Celtics this year. If that is your definition of "not working", most folks will take it.
Going 2-8 against Golden State last year was tough, but don't try to convince people of what you "know" just because Mark Cuban decided to shuffle players around mid-season like he was doing since he bought the team. The Mavs are finally winning some games, but they are still 14-11 with Kidd on the team, and if you weren't happy with Harris' .730 percentage, I'm not sure how a couple of wins in a row have you so thrilled with Kidd's .560 percentage.
The playoffs are the only thing with a chance to salvage this trade.
Kidd=Alston????
What are you smoking?
They may be statistically almost equal, but can you seriously say Kidd=Alston?
What's next? Scola is Duncan's second coming???
long-term - bad.
short-term - undecided.
you cannot link the .730 percentage to a spare like Devin Harris. Dirk, Jet and Josh handed that record to him on a silver plate. He did not have a major influence. Kidd has been excellent so far and way better than Devin Harris. not only as a passer but also as a defender. They didn't win that many games after the all star break because of Josh Howard. He single handedly lost the games. You cannot blame Kidd for that. The Mavs would have easily been the number 1 seed if Josh didn't have the worst games of his career.
You've turned into the biggest idiot here.
Yeah and they were just great without him. I believe they were like 8-8 without Harris and 14-11 with Kidd and without Harris. Yeah a real spare that causes such a dip.
Seriously. Your is tired. We all know you're not a real Mavs fan. When the playoffs roll around, do us all a favor and not post anything about any of the Mavs games. Instead, let us know who the Bulls may be targeting in the upcoming draft. stick.
At least I have statistics to back up what I'm saying. You on the other hand..typical Mav's fan (see below).
America, eatin' my lunch from a single bowl in my parents basement, where I'm livin'. Happy Birthday, I'm forty-three.
Don't want to waste those precious calories...chewin'. Jesus come move my jaw for me, help me get my sloppy food down my throat.
And yes...Kidd is the most overrated PG on the planet.
Dude I'm trying to have an intelligent discussion but the insults are getting tiring. I don't give a about the bulls. I've learned a lot since those days and would not repeat the bandwagoning like I did in the 90's.
You quote statistics? You just post lame Rivals.com smack. I have a stat for you: You're 90% and 10% nozzle.
This is what we're missing. http://youtube.com/watch?v=I9_IGn09Ax0&feature=related
Exactly right Mavs1k.......and just to make it easy, here it is embedded.
DD
Where's the youtube mix of him sitting on the bench in a snazzy suit for 30 games a year?
Findog,
Can you see why some of us think the trade was a mistake? The athleticism and quickness are much greater with Harris than with Kidd, and the overall BBall IQ is much greater with Kidd.
I just think that in the playoffs, you are going to need quicker players to match up with Nash, Paul, Williams, Parker etc...
DD
I can certainly see why some think the Mavericks should've stayed pat. Harris is so much younger, he can draw a charge and lead a one-man fastbreak. And Diop was our backup center.
I just think that Devin's rep as a shutdown defender is a bit undeserved. He's been lit up by CP3, Nash, Deron and Parker every bit as much as Kidd or anybody else. And did you see the way Kidd completely shut down Nash on Sunday? I've never relished playing Phoenix because we've never had an answer for the Nash and Amare pic and roll...until Sunday, that is.
Fair enough Fin, Fair enough.
I can see both sides, I just disagree with the trade...time will tell whom is right.
And thanks for being reasonable, it is far more fun to talk B-Ball with people not calling names etc....
DD
Then the Mavs should be able to make a deep playoff run now, and if they win a le in the next couple of years, then the Kidd trade will have been worth it. There's the danger that the Mavs hive mind will turn against Kidd at some point as irrationally as it turned on Harris and will blame him for everything that goes wrong with the team long before that happens.
Kidd is a smart defender and more valuable on D than Harris. Devin is a flopper who gets in fouls trouble early and that's about it.
I'm not throwing Devin under the bus for all of this team's problems, I just think that in the short term he isn't as good for this team as Kidd. Let's assume no salary cap is in play and the Hawks are stupid, and we swap out Jason Terry for Joe Johnson. I wouldn't forget all the clutch shots JET hit for us and how useful a player he's been for us, I would simply recognize JJ is a better player and our team is better for it.
Overrated!
Yeah that's right. I said it. Overrated Mr. I am old and beat my own wife Kidd who's shooting percentage this season is lower than Rafer Alston's. Lets be honest here. Alston sucks so what does that make Kidd?
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