So there have been none?
Is Ukraine in NATO according to your negotiated agreement?
They will surrender land, as they should. Ukraine is almost equal the size of Germany & Polska put together
If USA is to off record protect Ukraine then Z needs to agree to these resource requirements
If Russia demands No Ukraine NATO and or EU membership for 10+ years. That to me is dicy and main piece of debate
I don't care if there are tens of thousands of European troops there with American air power to backup an agreement.
No NATO now, maybe much later.
Was in the area today. Took quick detour.
Berlin has lived up to the hype fellas. Spring coming.
Russia has already said OK to EU membership for Ukraine. NATO membership in the short term is off the table not because of Russia but because of NATO members who don't want it for Ukraine.
In reality, this war is probably more likely to "end" in a way similar to that of the Korean War. Perhaps no formal end but an effective end with an armistice.
Weaken NATO is an argument Putin can celebrate. Ride off in the sunset.
Would you support sending in our military to fight alongside them?
I don't agree with any of that. Russia is winning. Reality is Putin gets what he wants, or he takes what he wants. Not much we can do about it without entering the war directly.
He has to walk away a winner domestically and regroup Russian international respect. Trump will carry the blame.
Disagree with what? It's just a simple fact that the Kremlin has said it's ok with EU membership for Ukraine. It was never OK with NATO membership but Ukraine isn't becoming a member anytime soon regardless.
We'll see how this all plays out but Korea style armistice seems quite plasuible.
Time to end this dispute. Get those Russians back into Europe. Back into our International games. They crossed the line but didn't level cities or massacre their neighbor.
We seem to have forgiven Germany pretty quickly after WW2. Russia may be a different story.
My bad, I speed read Russia ok with Nato membership
If Russia wanted they could have demolished cities and the West still wouldn't step foot in Moscow. I think Russia took a massive maybe incomprehensible (this generation) dignity hit. Time to reel them back in our sphere. Europe has experienced much worse. Don't let them fall too deep into China/Arab sphere.
Although I do also disagree that Russia would accept a Korea style armistice. They won't allow Ukraine to arm up like that and they've been very clear that Lil Hitlers regime has got to go.
Cowboy still shaken by 2 planes
Europe & Asia is big boy
You're drunk and alone on a weeknight again.
This is just sad.
You missed Polish Amerikaner. Living your dream in Deutschland bae
This is just sad.
My dream is not being drunk and alone on a weeknight. That's no one's dream, incel.
Russia started the war in 2014 because Ukraine wanted to join EU. NATO wasn't even on table then as Ukraine had neutrality in cons ution then. Ukraine wants NATO because of Russia's aggression, not other way around.
Russia doesn't care or worry about NATO.
You will never make it in EuropeMy dream is not being drunk and alone on a weeknight. That's no one's dream, incel.
It's over. Polaks can only do so much for you surprisedly ungrateful people
Polak support turned year 3. Pissed off locals.
Ukrainians viewed as aggressive, ungrateful even thief's. And I have personal story.
There are currently 4 users browsing this thread. (0 members and 4 guests)
Posting Permissions
Reply With Quote
