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    1. Incredible luck and karma. Truly blessed.
    2. A great start for the Mitch era. (And good that Pop made a decision).
    3. No way do you trade Harper.
    4. I'm less worried about the Harper fit than say Sochan. If there's concern about shooting in the starting 5, Sochan is the one who needs to improve. And I'm a huge Sochan fan.
    5. Very curious about the 14 pick. I'm hoping for Liam or Fleming. Has to be a forward imo. And I don't think they should trade it.
    Liam sux ass. 31 percent three point for unathletic 6’4 white boy. that.

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    Dylan Harper is half filipino. Game over for John B. He’s about to call him the next Manu in 3…2…1
    Damn why couldn’t Ron Harper just a black chick.

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    I'd forget about Naz/Aldama, their teams cleared cap space to extend them.
    It's down to John Collins or PJ Washington, imo. I'd rather have Collins because he's bigger and a better 3pt shooter.
    Interestingly enough, teams with two best records in the league played with no actual wings, but 3 guards and 2 bigs, we could probably try something similar.

    Guard rotation: Fox/Castle/Harper, 96 minutes for them.

    Wing rotation is where it gets interesting. Devin doesn't fit, but can at least shoot. I'd get rid of him, but probably won't happen.
    Jeremy on the other hand doesn't fit at all. I'd trade him and Keldon for John Collins.

    Barnes has to stay as our best shooter and keeping Champ on his contract is a no brainer. I guess Devin manages to survive another summer and we draft the BPA wing at #14.

    PG: Fox, Harper
    SG: Castle, Harper, Devin
    SF: Barnes, Devin, Champ
    PF: Collins, Barnes, #14 (get the BPA wing with legit PF size)
    C: Wemby, Collins, veteran backup

    Seems reasonable enough.
    My concern about Collins is that he's a lower volume 3P shooter, he's a mid 3.x 3PA shooter for his career, and we need this guy to be a 5+ 3PA/gm, so I'm not sure how Collins translates in the scenario I laid out above (which was about Fox/Castle/Harper being able to share the floor together).

    If you are playing Fox/Harper/Castle the way you laid out, I agree Collins makes sense.

    I also agree that Lauri/Naz/Santi are probably all not gettable without paid too hefty of a price (which we should avoid).

    I'd still hope we could find a way to move off Devin. I'd rather keep Keldon than him... that's how badly I don't want to see Devin's stupid ass pineapple head again.

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    I would love to make some moves and end up with Harper and Kon out of this draft.

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    My concern about Collins is that he's a lower volume 3P shooter, he's a mid 3.x 3PA shooter for his career, and we need this guy to be a 5+ 3PA/gm, so I'm not sure how Collins translates in the scenario I laid out above (which was about Fox/Castle/Harper being able to share the floor together).

    If you are playing Fox/Harper/Castle the way you laid out, I agree Collins makes sense.

    I also agree that Lauri/Naz/Santi are probably all not gettable without paid too hefty of a price (which we should avoid).

    I'd still hope we could find a way to move off Devin. I'd rather keep Keldon than him... that's how badly I don't want to see Devin's stupid ass pineapple head again.
    As we discussed before, I just don't see which team would take Devin.
    Keldon would serve no purpose on this roster whatsoever if we get Harper.

    That would be the biggest upside of having Harper.
    Keldon and even Devin having the ball in their hands, bringing it up was just vomit inducing.

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    cutewizard you like adobo?

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    Dylan Harper is half filipino. Game over for John B. He’s about to call him the next Manu in 3…2…1
    Need cutewizard to hook us up on those Harper scouting reports!

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    Liam sux ass. 31 percent three point for unathletic 6’4 white boy. that.
    Liam is surprisingly athletic and has SF size.
    Don't assume because he's white he doesn't have any vertical lift.

    He also can dribble and get to the basket although often was asked to do too much at UCONN and had poor shooting off the dribble with out of control poor shot selection so he still has work to do on his game but could be a fit at SF for the Spurs.

    His numbers were not bad on catch and shoot threes.

    He or Fleming would be great at 14.

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    Harper and Fleming or bust. Also like Maluach but I doubt he makes it to 14.

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    Dylan Harper is half filipino. Game over for John B. He’s about to call him the next Manu in 3…2…1
    Really? I didn't know that, but then again, I didn't look into Dylan Harper or anyone projected to go into the top 4 (all I knew about was Flagg). I was curious who is mother was because I read he didn't have great explosive athleticism, and from what I read about his father before playing for the Bulls and lakers late in his career, I remember reading Ron Harper was an explosive player/athlete (someone correct me if I am wrong) when he was younger playing for the Cavaliers, Clippers, so I was wondering why Dylan didn't get that.
    Last edited by Ice009; 05-12-2025 at 10:44 PM.

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    Had to skip to 5:17 for the adobo LOL

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    Video - no interview of ron Harper? He not in the picture?

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    Liam is surprisingly athletic and has SF size.
    Don't assume because he's white he doesn't have any vertical lift.

    He also can dribble and get to the basket although often was asked to do too much at UCONN and had poor shooting off the dribble with out of control poor shot selection so he still has work to do on his game but could be a fit at SF for the Spurs.

    His numbers were not bad on catch and shoot threes.

    He or Fleming would be great at 14.
    I can assure you he will be a Bust. White guy shooting 31 percent 3. College three at that. No thank
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    Mock draft and options at 14


    Assuming no trades this is my gut instinct



    • mavericks- Flagg
    • Spurs- Harper
    • 76ers- Bailey
    • Hornets- Edgecombe
    • Jazz- Kon Knueppel
    • Wizards- Queen
    • Pelicans- Tre Johnson
    • Nets- Kasparas Jakucionis
    • Raptors- Maluach
    • Rockets- Fears
    • Blazers- Rasheer Fleming
    • Bulls- Carter Bryant
    • Hawks- Thomas Sorber



    So already being heavy at guard with Harper, Castle and Fox these would be the options at 14. Wings and bigs


    Noa Essengue
    Cedric Coward
    Will Riley
    Egor Demin
    Asa Newell
    Yaxel Lendeborg
    Joan Beringer
    Neoklis Avdalas
    Danny Wolf
    Collin-Murray Boyles
    Liam Mcneely




    Then at 38 you hope for best available big or shooter depending on what happened at 14

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    We really went from a year ago begging for any kind of lead guard to wondering if we have room for Dylan Harper. My god…

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    Had to skip to 5:17 for the adobo LOL
    Seems like a great kid with a great family.

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    We really went from a year ago begging for any kind of lead guard to wondering if we have room for Dylan Harper. My god…
    Pretty amazing what happens in a year. Draft another ROY and trade for Fox.

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    I can assure you he will be a Bust. White guy shooting 31 percent 3. College three at that. No thank
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    Well aren’t you a racist mother er!!!

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    I would bet a good amount of money we don’t use/keep both of our lottery picks. Drafting Harper + trading away #14 is the clear most likely option IMO.

    2nd most likely option is trading down from #2 to grab someone who is a more seamless fit with our current group, but you only do this is if you don’t view Harper as being a clear tier above the rest of the non-Flagg prospects.

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    Looks like flagg isnt happy yhat he is going to the mavs lol
    He was that close to being part of a future dynasty instead of the show in Dallas

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    Mock draft and options at 14


    Assuming no trades this is my gut instinct



    • mavericks- Flagg
    • Spurs- Harper
    • 76ers- Bailey
    • Hornets- Edgecombe
    • Jazz- Kon Knueppel
    • Wizards- Queen
    • Pelicans- Tre Johnson
    • Nets- Kasparas Jakucionis
    • Raptors- Maluach
    • Rockets- Fears
    • Blazers- Rasheer Fleming
    • Bulls- Carter Bryant
    • Hawks- Thomas Sorber



    So already being heavy at guard with Harper, Castle and Fox these would be the options at 14. Wings and bigs


    Noa Essengue
    Cedric Coward
    Will Riley
    Egor Demin
    Asa Newell
    Yaxel Lendeborg
    Joan Beringer
    Neoklis Avdalas
    Danny Wolf
    Collin-Murray Boyles
    Liam Mcneely




    Then at 38 you hope for best available big or shooter depending on what happened at 14
    Well I was thinking you could in theory trade #2 + Vassell + Keldon for #5 + Markennen

    The money works and I really think the Jazz would jump at the chance to get the best lead guard with star potential in this draft.

    We get Mark the shooter PF we need and then we draft great shooter Kon at #5 and get rid of poorly fitting Keldon and Vassell.

    Honestly I think it might be stupid because I see DH as a potential Cade Cunningham / James Harden level guard talent and you just don’t trade that especially on a rookie contract. But it is an interesting possibility that would sort of solve the shooting problem around Wemby.

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    Harper, Wemby and Castle can have a nice 10+ year run together. You don't trade that.

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    I don’t see why the Mavs would trade for Dylan with Kyrie on board, and gifting Flagg to a division rival?
    Kyrie will miss a huge chunk, if not all of next year. An ACL takes a year of recovery, and another year to get your feet underneath you and feel confident in the Knee.

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    Mavs with Anthony Davis, Kyrie, and Giannis is straight up a contender.

    Spurs need to weasel their way in there and make sure Flagg doesn't go to Milwaukee but Harper does instead.
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