Awful. Trading pick 2 for 8+Cam is a nightmare and fireable offense.
And if what you say is true (KD is cheap) then it would NOT require trading pick 2 to get him.
SA has ATL pick, their own picks etc…if KD is cheap, zero reason to trade pick 2 to help get KD; Spurs already have enough to do so right now with pick 14 + ATL 27 to do this.
no, but one scenario could be to get the Nets to ship Claxton to Phoenix. Devin to ATL would be "doing righty by him", although the salary doesn't quite match here.
I agree, I'm not saying I believe it, but #2 being on the table does seem to have legs. Also we only have 10 players under contract. I said before Devin, Keldon, Barnes, Branham and Blake should all be on the table. Champ and Jeremy are on good deals, so I assume they would like to keep them, but I don't think they would be deal breakers.
I do agree Dev + Keldon + Sochan all on table (clearly Branham + Blake are)
I never said they are trading #2 for KD. I'm saying they are doing a bunch of deals.
depends on how many picks you are getting. What if the Nets offer you #8, #19, #27 and a future Knicks pick?
For sure…I don’t think anyone needs a source to tell them that pretty much any of those guys are available for the right deal.
I also think it’s almost a certainty that they’re entertaining the idea of trading #2.
It’s just the idea of them doing all of these things at once that seems super unlikely IMO.
If the Spurs aren’t super high on Harper then it would be dumb not to capitalize on whichever FO does view him as a franchise cornerstone…I just don’t necessarily trust our FO to be smarter/have better judgment then everyone else at this pointIt’s even worse if they’re looking to trade #2 mostly due to fit concerns.
Here is your Completely Unhinged Trade Idea of the Day.
Brian Wright wakes up and has switched bodies with Nico Harrison, like in the plot of Freaky Friday. So Nico is now essentially our GM and wants to go all in on Veteran Experience. Spurs go for KD and Giannis. Of course, it requires them sending out basically the entire team.
I’m saying absolutely not, tbh. Harper is like a top 3 guard prospect in the past 5 years? Maybe top 10 PG prospect going back 15-20 years? Passing up on that for #8/19/27 and a future Knicks pick would be terrible.
I sound like a broken record at this point, but obviously if the Spurs don’t think Harper is as good as the consensus of scouts/other teams thinks he is then sure, take the best offer you can get. But if we’re just viewing Harper as how the consensus does, then it’d be incredibly foolish to do the package you just described.
Still an awful trade. A bunch of mid picks (and a future pick you’d pray would be as good as pick 2 anyways) plus a good but replaceable role player?
Im saying you dont need to trade 2 period if your goal is to get KD. If KD is cheap, you keep pick 2 and make a trade for KD still.
You dont need other assets in a deal for 2 to get KD so what’s the point of trading pick 2 then when you can get KD and keep pick 2?
Yeah honestly the idea of the Spurs being open to moving #2 makes me a little queasy... I'm hoping it's all just media speculation and fan rumors and that Brian and RC are sitting in their office watching Dylan Harper videos and reading trade proposals and laughing their asses off while Holt's niece sits in the corner designing our next ty alternate jersey with HARPER #2 on it.
Sure - im operating under the initial premise that SA values Harper as a prospect very highly regardless of fit with Fox/Castle. IF that’s not the case? Ok. Would be a big gamble obviously but I trust the FO.For sure…I don’t think anyone needs a source to tell them that pretty much any of those guys are available for the right deal.
I also think it’s almost a certainty that they’re entertaining the idea of trading #2.
It’s just the idea of them doing all of these things at once that seems super unlikely IMO.
If the Spurs aren’t super high on Harper then it would be dumb not to capitalize on whichever FO does view him as a franchise cornerstone…I just don’t necessarily trust our FO to be smarter/have better judgment then everyone else at this point
But even in that scenario where SA feels Harper is not their favorite prospect, I still dont love 2 for Cam + 8 + 19 + 27 + NY 1st. Thats too many picks right now in this draft IMO (spurs could obviously do other trades and get future firsts or consolidate and move up from 8 to 4 using 8+19 or something?) and I dont love having to do more work if you are the team giving up the best asset.
Im ok with trading pick 2, but I dont like not getting a legit young all star back or a player like Giannis. If you can get that? I see it. But a role player + mid pick volume doesnt cut it IMO
I literally hate this deal so much I cannot find the words.Here is your Completely Unhinged Trade Idea of the Day.
Brian Wright wakes up and has switched bodies with Nico Harrison, like in the plot of Freaky Friday. So Nico is now essentially our GM and wants to go all in on Veteran Experience. Spurs go for KD and Giannis. Of course, it requires them sending out basically the entire team.
This is the proper response, tbh
Yeah I get it. It obviously only makes sense if the Spurs come out of this looking even better than in the scenario where they would add Harper. I'm still trying to wrap my head around it. All I'm saying is, they might have another guy in the top 10 who they think could become a future All-Star.
The Spurs will only trade the 2 if it lands them the 1. Odd's of that happening are probably 1.0%. You never know with Nico.
I would hate giving up the #2 for that
Well we ain’t got one of those.
What I would prefer then is use pick 14 + something else to get that guy. If you love another guy as well or as much, keep 2 and use pick 14 + a future first and move to 8-10 and get him as well!
I gotta say Okongwu is a really nice target.
24 years old, 6'10'' with a 7'2'' wingspan. Got 3 years left on a cheap deal 15/16/17. Can play backup C and PF next to Wemby. Good defender, roller and shotblocker. Can guard strong centers in the post. Lob finisher. Shot 33% from 3 on 2 attempts. Has a midrange game. Averaged 13 PPG and 9 boards in 28 minutes last season. Owning ATL picks can certainly help here.
What I would prefer then is use pick 14 + something else to get that guy. If you love another guy as well or as much, keep 2 and use pick 14 + a future first and move to 8-10 and get him as well!
I like him alot too. I've been trying to figure out what we give up in this deal for him though. He's not worth both Atlanta assets, but is he worth one? Or would we just be shifting some of the Brooklyn assets there and holding on to the Atlanta assets.
It's pretty intriguing to think about..
Okongwu is listed as 6’8”, and that would be in shoes. A backup? Remind me again why we would put #2 into this trade. Remind me why ATL is putting their only center into the deal.
What I've read on a Hawks board is that Spurs were interested in a Keldon + Barnes + Hawks picks back to Atlanta (with some protections) for Jalen Johnson. It was said that Spurs wanted to keep Vassell.
When you say Hawks picks back with protections, do you mean the Spurs could send their outright picks back and add lottery protection to them? For example, the Spurs keep them if the fall within the top 3 or 4 (what protections would you add?) and Hawks get them back if they're outside the top 4? Can you add protections on a swap at all?
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