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    Ukraine is in such a poor position right now that we are going to have to get creative to end the Ukraine crisis.

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    Creative?

    Trump is going to sell them out like he did the Afghanis.

    It's what he does.

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    Notable that neither side is bringing their chief negotiator on Ukraine but both sides include officials with responsibility for trade, investment and finance.

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    Ukraine is in such a poor position right now that we are going to have to get creative to end the Ukraine crisis.
    It's hilarious that you think Trump can end it, the rest of Europe is ramping up for more war

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    Sadly, the Alaska summit is shaping up to be a complete waste of time like the Kim Jun Un summit in Singapore.
    The summit was an even bigger waster of time than I thought it would be. It's up to Zelensky to make concession to end the war if they want to end it anytime soon.

    If other Europeans are willing to pay up then maybe Z can drag it out long enough to force a stalemate assuming they can recruit enough people to actually fight.
    Last edited by DMX7; 08-15-2025 at 10:08 PM.

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    It wasn't just a bad day -- it was a totally humiliating day. Trump giving Putin a round of applause on a red carpet was sooo cringeworthy.

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    It wasn't just a bad day -- it was a totally humiliating day. Trump giving Putin a round of applause on a red carpet was sooo cringeworthy.
    That shows just how desperate Trump is to distract from his Epstein files.

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    That shows just how desperate Trump is to distract from his Epstein files.
    That, and Trump is foolish enough to believe he could flatter Putin into agreeing to a ceasefire that Putin was never going to agree to because he is winning the war.

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    Putin will be gone before the repercussions are felt. In History the replacement is more hardcore.

    Polska & Deutschland are the barriers of decision.

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    PL + DE

    is undefeated

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    It seems like Trump will be trying to force the "land swap" deal down Zelensky's throat tomorrow. The big European leaders are coming to Washington with Z to try to stop it... I assume.

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    Deutsch is my 3rd Language. I will always be bias. Turks, Germans & Polaks is a great trio. Ive been to all 3 this year returning.

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    Like in the next 2 months. Will be in Polska and Turkey again

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    Wir sind reisen in Europa und diesem Girl nehmen

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    Russia has never NOT Broken A Treaty

    For Moscow, treaties mean nothing. They are pauses in conflict, meant to buy time, weaken the other side, while preparing for the next stage of war. Over the past century, the Soviet Union and modern Russia have signed dozens of agreements—all worthless, mostly functioning as mere means to disarm intended victims. The record shows a consistent pattern: agreements are tools of strategy, not commitments of principle.

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    From Brest-Litovsk to Budapest, from Riga to Minsk, Russia’s century-long record is clear: it signs treaties when weak and discards them when strong enough to attack again. Each agreement is treated as an act of war by other means—something to lull the victim into lowering defenses before the next strike.

    The lesson for Ukraine, Europe, and the wider world: Moscow’s word is worthless. Treaties are not guarantees when signed in the Kremlin—they are traps.
    https://kyivinsider.com/russia-has-n...oken-a-treaty/

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    DMX7 says this time will be different because Trump?

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    Ukraine!

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    So edgy!

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