Coronavirus treatments and vaccines thread

[ChumpDumper]

Just stop taking jabs

For everything?

Ever?

[ChumpDumper]

Just stop taking jabs

Great advice, doc!

https://x.com/KUT/status/1893999637956079780

The individual from Gaines County also traveled to multiple areas in San Antonio on Saturday, Feb. 15. They include the University of Texas at San Antonio main campus between 10 a.m. and 2 p.m, the River Walk attractions — Wax Museum, Ripley’s Believe It or Not, and Ripley’s Illusion Lab — between 2:30 p.m. and 5:30 p.m., and Mr. Crabby's Seafood and Bar in Live Oak between 6 p.m. and 8 p.m.

The person also visited a New Braunfels Buc-ees on Feb. 16 between 9 a.m. and noon.

[SnakeBoy]

Vaccinated people are at risk?

[ChumpDumper]

Vaccinated people are at risk?

You don't know much about vaccines, do you?

[Blake]

Great advice, doc!

https://x.com/KUT/status/1893999637956079780

The individual from Gaines County also traveled to multiple areas in San Antonio on Saturday, Feb. 15. They include the University of Texas at San Antonio main campus between 10 a.m. and 2 p.m, the River Walk attractions — Wax Museum, Ripley’s Believe It or Not, and Ripley’s Illusion Lab — between 2:30 p.m. and 5:30 p.m., and Mr. Crabby's Seafood and Bar in Live Oak between 6 p.m. and 8 p.m.

The person also visited a New Braunfels Buc-ees on Feb. 16 between 9 a.m. and noon.

Lol taking kids to Twin Peaks

[Blake]

You don't know much about vaccines, do you?

5 years after Covid and still....

[Winehole23]

Vaccinated people are at risk?

before 1968 in the US the MMR vaccine was dead virus based, in 1968 they started using a partially attenuated virus

not sure what the age recommendation is, but people who got the MMR vaccine before 1968 might be recommended to get it again. people who got the live attenuated virus vaccine are probably good for life, according to the CDC.

[Winehole23]

more info here:

Do You Need A Measles Booster? Your Birth Year Will Reveal The Answer

[Blake]

ing re ed antivaxxers

[Winehole23]

personalized mRNA vaccines for pancreatic (PDAC) cancer appear to perform better than the current standard of care -- ~75% survival at three years

cohort is small, though

Fig. 1: mRNA vaccine immune response correlates with delayed PDAC recurrence at three-year follow-up. | Nature

[Winehole23]

no golf clap for a potential pancreatic cancer vax?

[SnakeBoy]

no golf clap for a potential pancreatic cancer vax?

It will never make it to market with those poor results

[Winehole23]

ok, doc

[Winehole23]

how about a jab that prevents cervical cancer?

too kooky for y'all?

A new government report adds to evidence that the HPV vaccine, once called dangerous by Health and Human Services Secretary Robert F. Kennedy Jr., is preventing cervical cancer in young women.


The report comes after Kennedy pledged to give a family member any fees he might earn from HPV vaccine litigation. In a 2019 video posted on the anti-vaccine nonprofit Children’s Health Defense website, Kennedy called Gardasil “the most dangerous vaccine ever invented.”


The new report found that from 2008 to 2022, rates for precancerous lesions decreased about 80% among 20- to 24-year-old women who were screened for cervical cancer. The estimates were published Thursday by the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention.

https://www.statnews.com/2025/02/27/...en-cdc-report/

[Winehole23]

RFK Jr backtracks, will send MMR jabs to Texas

Two days after initially downplaying the outbreak as “not unusual,” the US health secretary, Robert F Kennedy Jr, on Friday said he recognizes the serious impact of the ongoing measles epidemic in Texas – in which a child died recently – and said the government is providing resources, including protective vaccines.

“Ending the measles outbreak is a top priority for me and my extraordinary team,” Kennedy – an avowed anti-vaccine conspiracy theorist who for years has sown doubts about the safety and efficacy of vaccines – said in a post on X.

Kennedy said his federal Department of Health and Human Services would send Texas 2,000 doses of the measles, mumps and rubella vaccine – typically meant to be given to children in a series of two shots at 12 to 15 months old as well as between the ages of four and six years old – through its immunization program.

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/...lth-department

[Winehole23]

apparently, MAHA doesn't want there to be any form of prevention for COVID-19

Vaxart, a small South San Francisco company that focuses on oral vaccine research, announced Thursday that it had to lay off 10% of its workers after the U.S. government issued a stop work order on its major COVID-19 vaccine trial. Vaxart had 105 workers at the end of 2024, per a filing, so the cuts are likely to hit around 10 staff members; local biotechs have been shedding staff left and right this year.

The stop work order is a major blow for a company that had already seen its stock price dwindle. Vaxart got a positive reception to the vaccine study’s initial data from a safety board, and was planning to begin a larger trial after the FDA provided input. Instead, the study and company have been thrown into limbo — Vaxart will learn within 90 days whether the trial and its massive contract are canceled for good.

https://www.sfgate.com/tech/article/...p-20234682.php

[Winehole23]

“We were not provided a reason for the stop work order,” Lo said in a call with analysts on Thursday. He added that it’s in effect for 90 days, within which “the stop work order will either be canceled, extended or work on this project will be terminated.”

[Winehole23]

HHS withdraws COVID vaccine recommendation for anyone under 65 without a risk factor for COVID, including pregnant women.

*Last week* the CDC mentioned pregnancy as a significant risk factor for COVID, for both the mother and the fetus.

Seems Trumplandia doesn't want people to choose for themselves what's right medically for their own families and their own bodies, instead they want to determine that for everybody paternalistically: "this is common sense"... no COVID vaccine for anyone who doesn't already have one foot in the grave.

The American College of Obstetricians and Gynecologists disagrees:

ACOG Statement on HHS Recommendations Regarding the COVID Vaccine During Pregnancy

The following is a statement from Steven J. Fleischman, MD, FACOG, president of the American College of Obstetricians and Gynecologists (ACOG):

“ACOG is concerned about and extremely disappointed by the announcement that HHS will no longer recommend COVID-19 vaccination during pregnancy. As ob-gyns who treat patients every day, we have seen firsthand how dangerous COVID-19 infection can be during pregnancy and for newborns who depend on maternal antibodies from the vaccine for protection. We also understand that despite the change in recommendations from HHS, the science has not changed. It is very clear that COVID-19 infection during pregnancy can be catastrophic and lead to major disability, and it can cause devastating consequences for families. The COVID-19 vaccine is safe during pregnancy, and vaccination can protect our patients and their infants after birth.

“In fact, growing evidence shows just how much vaccination during pregnancy protects the infant after birth, with the vast majority of hospitalized infants less than six months of age—those who are not yet eligible for vaccination—born to unvaccinated mothers.

“Following this announcement, we are worried about our patients in the future, who may be less likely to choose vaccination during pregnancy despite the clear and definitive evidence demonstrating its benefit. We are concerned about access implications and what this recommendation will mean for insurance coverage of the COVID-19 vaccine for those who do choose to get vaccinated during pregnancy. And as ob-gyns, we are very concerned about the potential deterioration of vaccine confidence in the future.”

https://www.acog.org/news/news-relea...ring-pregnancy

[Winehole23]

when faced with an array of policy options, Trumplandia can be absolutely trusted to pick the deadliest one

10/10, no notes

[DarrinS]

HHS withdraws COVID vaccine recommendation for anyone under 65 without a risk factor for COVID, including pregnant women.

*Last week* the CDC mentioned pregnancy as a significant risk factor for COVID, for both the mother and the fetus.

Seems Trumplandia doesn't want people to choose for themselves what's right medically for their own families and their own bodies, instead they want to determine that for everybody paternalistically: "this is common sense"... no COVID vaccine for anyone who doesn't already have one foot in the grave.

The American College of Obstetricians and Gynecologists disagrees:

https://www.acog.org/news/news-relea...ring-pregnancy

[Winehole23]

your answer is unclear

you agree with the obstetricians and gynecologists?

[DarrinS]

your answer is unclear

you agree with the obstetricians and gynecologists?

I agree that healthy young people shouldn't get covid shots.

[Winehole23]

I agree that healthy young people shouldn't get covid shots.

do pregnant women and young people not need protection against COVID?

why should that familial decision be someone else's call?

[Winehole23]

from 2022

pregnancy is a major risk factor for COVID, for the mother and the baby

in this case, vaccination alleviates the risk

Late one afternoon last October, Dr. S ey Odronic sat in her office and, just as she had thousands of times before, slid a rectangular glass slide onto her microscope.

A pathologist who works in rural Ohio, Odronic leaned forward to examine tissue from the placenta of a woman who had recently given birth. She increased the magnification on the microscope. Never had she seen so many tiny, congealed reservoirs of blood or such severe inflammation of the tissue, a sign the placenta had been fighting an infection.

“Right away, I knew it wasn’t compatible with life,” Odronic said.

She asked her secretary to print out the patient’s chart. In dark letters were the words “fetal demise.” A stillbirth, the death of a fetus at 20 weeks or more of pregnancy. But that didn’t solve the mystery. Odronic had examined many placentas from pregnancies that ended in stillbirth. None looked like this — withered and scarred.

Odronic kept reading. No chronic medical conditions. Good prenatal care. Then, buried in the middle of the report, she spotted something. Seven days before the stillbirth, the mother had tested positive for COVID-19. Odronic wondered if the virus could explain the damage to the placenta. In the world of placenta pathology, a new affliction is unusual, especially one so dramatic in presentation and so devastating in effect.

Her mind traveled to Dr. Amy Heerema-McKenney, a pathologist at Cleveland Clinic and an expert on the placenta, who had trained Odronic during residency. Odronic went to sleep that night with a pit in her stomach and a plan to call her former teacher in the morning.

Heerema-McKenney was in her office when the phone rang. As she listened, she knew that what Odronic was describing was what she and her colleagues had observed repeatedly over the past several months: a patient positive for the coronavirus, a placenta destroyed by COVID-19, a baby stillborn.

Their next discovery was equally stunning. None of the stillbirths they studied involved a pregnant person who had been fully vaccinated. The doctors checked with colleagues across the country and around the world. The fatal pattern held.

https://www.propublica.org/article/c...ines-pregnancy

[Winehole23]

approximately one in four children experience long lasting symptoms post-infection

also, organ damage from COVID infection is ulative -- very a good reason to prevent infection, especially in the young

Our study suggests that BNT162b2 was effective in reducing risk of long COVID outcomes in children and adolescents during the Delta and Omicron periods. The mediation analysis indicates the vaccine’s effectiveness is primarily derived from its role in reducing the risk of SARS-CoV-2 infection.

https://www.thelancet.com/journals/e...541-8/fulltext