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Our society is consumer-driven; people who believe the they see on t.v. about people who have the sixth sense (see dead spirits and ) are too gullable. It's all set up and pure bull .
9/10 Christians (haven't met enough religious Jews or Muslims to inlcude them in the ratio) "believe" in God only because they fear what they do not know, which is if God actually exists.
I hear this type of stuff a lot: But, what if he is real? It's better to have faith that he exists and go to heaven than to go to because you don't believe.
Our society is consumer-driven; people who believe the they see on t.v. about people who have the sixth sense (see dead spirits and ) are too gullable. It's all set up and pure bull .
The NBA would be about half as exciting without Black American basketball players.
(really going out ona limb here, guys).
amen brotha
If the sky were brown and were blue, blue eyes would be less attractive.
The reason you think like that is because society as a whole has brain washed you to believe like that. You were born into a world that wants you to think that way.
You see the ancient Romans had a saying for this it’s “Quo modo agitis hodie” It refers to a person who believes the world has too much psycho analyzing. It is a very common abnormality of the brain but I believe the early Spaniards also had a saying for this, something to the effect of “Donde esta mis chones? Oh aqui estan sobre tu cabeza!” loosely translated means “Where is my understanding? Oh I believe it is lost in the philosophy of man!”
Well Ruff...again I am going to point out that they didn't have a formalized scientific perspective back then....so I don't know why you would expect the perspective of people pre-dating the existence of science to give descriptions and recountings that align perfectly with the perceptions of someone who came after...among other factors.
All I want to know is how a people without the benefit of science nailed certain things like the Earth began as a formless protoplanetary disk, , that electromagnetic radiation(and in our case the gravitational forces behind it) were essential in shaping the earth and giving it form and producing life, that the earth was once covered entirely by water, before there was life, that vegetable life came before animal, sea life before land life, and that man was the last dominant species to evolve on this planet?
How did they know that stuff?
Because that is exactly the sequence in which it happened...doesn't seem to be the type of stories anthropocentric folk would invent to me.
Either Moses was the smartest person who ever lived, scientifically and spiritually, not to mention one of a psychologist...or else our prehistoric ancestors were collective geniuses....or else it was stuff they were told and we view it through their existing perspective and ability to comprehend these things.
You throw a flashlight back in time and their view of it is going to be mystical...anything they couldn't explain or didn't fully understand would be mystical or divine. Doesn't mean it would stop being a flashlight and stop producing light.......
IOW, their definition of higher life form, was God.
It's really not that hard to reconcile these sorts of things, and since religion and spirituality have been a part of man's perspective much longer and to much more positive benefit than science...I am always inclined to try and do so.
Last edited by whottt; 07-22-2008 at 03:25 PM.
your thoughts explain why you love "mother earth" and think everyone else should.Exactly, "no gods", not "no higher beings". The "God/s" I think you are talking about are higher beings that are intimately connected to human affairs, but to me that makes no sense. I can accept that there are other beings in the Universe (given its immense size) that are more advanced than humans, however I do not believe that there is an omniscient God/s that created everything and gives a about human beings. I see no proof, just some old stories that have been re-written by a thousand scribes. Nor am I willing to conclusively state that there is not an omniscient God/s because it is something beyond my ability to prove. I have no problem with what anyone else wants to believe, as long as they don't try to inflict it upon me. That is agnosticism as I see it.
I'm not arguing that there isn't something in the human mind that propels us on a quest for meaning, which many people seem to find in religion. But I see religion more as a combination of the individual psyche and collective cultural imagination. For most of history, people have felt the internal, psychological need to give meaning to the Universe, and getting together and expressing this need has resulted in various religions and philosophies. That's what I think you are describing.
Personally, I'm somewhere between an existentialist and a nihilist because I think the only true meanings in the Universe are those we each ascribe to it - there is no overarching scheme (except the laws of physics), no afterlife, no greater meaning. I am an entirely insignificant speck in a Universe without any consciousness of my existence, and when I'm dead that's the end. Some people find those challenging, even depressing ideas, but I find them energising - if this is it, LIVE FULLY!
C'mon whottt, disproving a negative is an overworn, bull rhetorical trick used by every religious shyster and you should be better than that. God can be neither proven nor disproven, so why bring it up?
What "athiestic events"? Athiests don't need heresay. Athiests pretty much believe in the laws of physics, because they are what seem to control the universe (everything in science and mathematics stems from the laws of physics). And YES, they have been proven, and those same proofs can be (and are) reproduced over and over again! That's the point of the scientific method!Can you show me Christ raising himself from the dead? Nup. Can I drop an apple from an apple tree, on your head, and say with utter reliability that if we do the same thing again we'll get the same result (a sore head for you)? Damn straight we can.
...except that dogs do not have the intellectual capacity to "believe" anything, nor even the capacity to understand the concept of "belief".
You the great scientist talk one thing and then mix up "apples" and "Christ". But typical of your type. You are what I suspected all along: an over educated idiot.
You also "speculate" about dog's. Hopefully one of these days you will have the same "intellectual capacity" to believe as they do. They at least display intelligence which I have reason to question about you to have the capability to do the same, display some intelligence.
Be sure to let him know it's science that is responsible for his favorite cause, global warming...not religion.
My point exactly.
Chacho's nachos are disgusting.
And their margaritas are average at best.
Rap is not music and should not even be a category for MUSIC awards.
Most women only claim sexual harrassment when it is someone to whom they are not attracted.
The hokey-pokey is *not*, in fact, what it's all about.
No in fact the turning yourself around is what it is all about. It's a very deep spiritual meaning.
Government subsidies to farmers to leave land fallow is no different than giving in to demands of terrorists.
Thank you.
Dude, I've tried explaining that to Mige and he's just re ed.
I am counting on it.
Black Women are nothing more than nappy headed ho's
Earthquakes are fun.
The best kind of candy is the kind with gum in the center.
The theme song to Fresh Prince is the reason we have stoplights.
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