Bing bing bing.
It's what separates him from reaching 6+ legit les territory and giving the NBA a continuing sense of decency vs the WWE joke it's become with more rigged years then not.
Disappointing he's settled.
I'd stay. What would be the point in leaving? He has a handful of rings, a coach and teammates he gets along with, and his family seems happy here. He has nothing left to accomplish. Leaving would only tarnish his legacy, like Hakeem wasting time going to Toronto, or Ewing to Seattle. He's a one team guy.
The same thing can be said about Kobe and Garnett.
The only reason he'd take a gamble would be a fifth ring, and I doubt he wants one as bad as Spur fan does so they can talk trash to Laker fan about how they're a wash.
Did PATFO surround Timmy with Kwame Brown or Michael Olowokandi?The same thing can be said about Kobe and Garnett.
Have you been a fan for more than 5 minutes? Garnett had to leave Minny to chase a ring.The same thing can be said about Kobe and Garnett.
More than anything its just frustrating as a fan, to see the Spurs FO do nothing about a glaring problem. Worse, its a problem they know is a problem or else they wouldn't bench Blair at the start of every postseason now, reduce Bonner to 3 minutes the final games of a series, and have the coach psychologically tear down and emasculate the only other player on the team over 7 feet on national television for missing 1 defensive assignment.
That leaves Tim, a 36 year old at 250-260 pounds with over 20 years of basketball on his legs and joints (college, NBA, and prior to both), with a 30 year old offensively passive frenchman with past weight issues as his only frontcourt help. Its just depressing.
Worse yet, the Spurs don't have a huge history of mid-season trades (particularly when it isn't just getting rid of a crappy contract they signed someone too for being "professional" and being lucky enough to get Jax back in return). Even if they did, the chances that person would get integrated into the system enough to gain playing time during the postseason is dubious.
Second rate organization. Buford's a fool.
The Spurs are still better off now than they were going into last season. Remember, last year the Spurs had only 4 big men going in (with Blair starting!), and still had RJ on the team.
I should have also asked, would you have left if you were Tim the previous time you could have? Right now, sure, you probably wouldn't as it's a little late to start over on a new team.
I think Tim could have opted out a few years ago though couldn't he have? I would have seriously considered leaving around that time if I was him, basically about the time Pop started Bonner and decided to include him into the rotation, permanently.
At the very least I am surprised that Tim hasn't asked the team to get rid of Bonner. I don't see how he could like busting his ass all season, only to see Bonner get scared in the playoffs and curl up into the fetal position when there is a pressure game or situation. I just couldn't work with someone like that if my main goal was to win a Championship. Bonner is a great guy at all, but he's just not a championship player or someone you can have in the rotation if you are looking to win, and it seems like Tim is OK with that, as it doesn't seem as if he has done or said anything about it. Personally, I would be more OK playing with Dejuan over Bonner as he gives effort and doesn't get scared out there, sure he may be limited, but at least he will give it full effort out there and not pack it in.
Last edited by Ice009; 09-06-2012 at 12:02 AM.
Hence if Tim wanted to be a GOAT in all respects and join Jordan in the 6 Legit Rings dept he would have told the FO to have Popped change his bull ways or send Pop packing.
The FO is going to side with Popped?I don't think so but if they did Tim could have and should have absolutely bailed. Enabling CIA Poop has proven to be guaranteed playoff failure for 6 of the last 7. 5 straight fo sho.
I can't blame him for that, Minny was going nowhere.
This is a good post.
Light years ahead of the Cavs, tbh. You should probably shut up.
Why did you mention KG and Kobe in your post then? I was talking about one team players. KG isn't one.
Do you understand anything about the Spurs oganizational structure? Pop is the coach. He is also the President of basketball operations. That means that Buford and the front office work for him. Anyone who doesn't "side with Popped" is likely to get an invitation to the world.Hence if Tim wanted to be a GOAT in all respects and join Jordan in the 6 Legit Rings dept he would have told the FO to have Popped change his bull ways or send Pop packing.
The FO is going to side with Popped?
I bet these posters were preaching the front office when they brought in Jack, Diaw, and Mills last spring.
Yeah, that's kind of my point. Lord Poppy given too much power/not questioned with his chicken moves is what puts Tim Duncan in "enabler" status too.
Do you realize who Tim Duncan was, esp after 2005? I'd love to have seen who would have won the "battle" between Coatails Pop and Timmy Duncan. If Holt would have been idiotic enough to send Tim packing we can only imagine how may les he contributes with the right team.
Basically, I am starting to get a little mad now that it seems like Tim is still OK with playing with Bonner.
He should not, in anyway shape or form want Bonner on the team after all his playoff debacles, and should have said something about it earlier.
It's the right thing to support your teammates during the season, but I think in the off season you can reflect, and should be able to work out that Bonner isn't a player you want on your team getting rotation minutes if you want to go anywhere.
You can sure as heck bet someone like Kobe would have no problems saying something to his front office, even if it isn't a direct demand to get rid of someone, he would speak up and tell them what he thinks of certain players.
Why hasn't Tim? or do you guys think he has?
Because Tim isn't the type to sell out his teammates like that. I don't want Bonner on the team either but that's a pretty -ish thing to do.
Why is it so hard for you to get that?
Maybe we should just trust in Tim and Pop through all this. They are the guys who brought 4 les to the franchise, and I'm pretty sure that if Tim wanted Bonner gone he would be. For whatever reason, Tim wants him around.
I'm happy to start the season with the lineup we've got. It's a lot better than we started last year with, and we're only one impacting big off the bench away from being a very dangerous team. , we could even get internal improvement from Splitter that makes this discussion largely moot. Let's hope so.
PS We have some nice assets to trade with: Jax's expiring (although I don't want to see him go), Neal and Blair are solid rotation players who'd be in the top 8 players of most teams, and Bonner only has 2 years left on his contract now which makes him easier to trade as part of a multi-player deal.
Subjecting your other 13 teamates to guaranteed playoff failure is what's wrong.
Updating a previous item, Andray Blatche's deal with the Nets has not been finalized, according to Michael Lee of the Washington Post.
Lee added that two sources close to Blatche said the forward has "yet to make a decision and is also considering an offer from the Miami Heat." This conflicts with Marc Spears' earlier report that Blatche and the Nets have agreed in principle. Both Lee and Spears are two of the most credible sources in the business, so check back for updates on this story.
Source: Washington Post
Sep 6
oh well....
some people are really whining about the FO not signing a player af Blatche's calibre.....
(ignoring the fact that they might have offered him a contract as well as the Heat and Nets and that he just isn't interested. for whatever reason)
hm.
Spurs were ranked as the deepest team in the league last season by pretty much every expert. they bring back the same team. (plus DeColo)
they should still be deeper than any other team. what they lack is some star power at PF. Blatche isn't. making an already super deep team deeper doesn't make much sense for them anyhow.
for the Spurs there is only one road to upgrade and that's via trade. but the Spurs are not in position for a summer blockbuster. they can/will find a much better chance for a significant trade at deadline 2013. till then, this team should have no problem to go +60%.
Howard Beck @HowardBeckNYT
Rest easy, Nets fans. Blatche deal is nonguaranteed. He's basically a camp invitee. No real risk.
Well said.
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