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question did Deng not play in that series against the Wizards, because on his NBA.com profile he doenst have any stats for the playoffs, did he get injured?
I do believe Nocioni could be that long 3 the spurs are looking for, he is a great rebounder avg around 8 boards off then bench in the playoffs, yes I know people say he cant shoot and that cost the bulls the series against the wizards; but I didnt watch the series so I dont know about that all I know he avg 12 pts and 8 boards in his first playoff series;
G GS MPG FGM-A FG% 3PM-A 3P% FTM-A FT% OFF DEF RPG APG SPG BPG TO PF PPG
First Round
6 6 33.7 27-67 .403 6-17 .353 17-23 .739 1.30 6.80 8.20 2.3 .17 1.00 1.83 3.30 12.8
question did Deng not play in that series against the Wizards, because on his NBA.com profile he doenst have any stats for the playoffs, did he get injured?
wallce is a G/F and SAR is a SF
end of story...
I believe Deng injured his wrist. If the Bulls had Deng and Curry available, no way the Wizards get past them.
SAR is a PF. Portland offered him the ability to start at the SF position but SAR didn't want that, proudly claiming that he was a PF. Your best bet is to start SAR at the 5 (Tim doesn't want to be considered a 5) and immediately move him to the 4 and Tim into a 5-ish position once the game starts. He could take some spot minutes at the 3, primarily dictated by matchups, but he would get killed out on the perimeter by some of the quicker 3s in the league.
rahim would be the main backup big in san antonio long term. nazr would be kind of a placeholder. rahim would have all of the playing time he could want in this scenario and be able to get plenty of notoriety.
Tim plays the five already. You're just arguing semantics, weakly at that.our best bet is to start SAR at the 5 (Tim doesn't want to be considered a 5) and immediately move him to the 4 and Tim into a 5-ish position once the game starts.
I understand that he and his agent have already ruled out the Magic because he doesn't have an opportunity to start there.Shareef Abdur-Rahim, PF
Suitors: Blazers, Nets, Kings, Magic, Heat, Cavs, Bulls
I hadn't heard that the Bulls were in the mix. But I understand that the Wizards are.
So the Spurs would have to offer him an "opportunity" to start. Hmmm...
Is he really only considering teams that he can start for? How can that be if he is saying that the Spurs are on his short list?
he's a fa, so if he wanted to come here, he'd have to know we have a pretty good power forward already. you'd think he'd know the situation here with the 5/4 or have at least watched the playoffs. (he probably knows he's not going to start)
and if he wanted to come here for more than the mle... the portland front office would really need/want rasho and his contract... otherwise, its a favor that they dont need to offer sar... they could just let him walk without having to commit to another contract they dont need/want.
His agent said yesterday that they weren't considering Orlando because Dwight Howard plays the same postion and he wouldn't have an opportunity to start there.Is he really only considering teams that he can start for?
That being said, the Magic are losers and the Spurs are winners, so I'm not sure if he'll feel the same about S.A.
longer this drags out the less likley it will go down
He's not an idiot - he has to know that he wouldn't start here, but I'm sure he'd get some decent minutes, he'd get to play with TD, he'd be a contender for a le... all those things must be more important than starting.
Well for all we know, Timmy might have told the Spurs brass that he's willing to start at C if they can get a 20ppg scorer next to him.He's not an idiot - he has to know that he wouldn't start here, but I'm sure he'd get some decent minutes, he'd get to play with TD, he'd be a contender for a le... all those things must be more important than starting.
Well for all we know, Timmy might have told the Spurs brass that he's willing to start at C if they can get a 20ppg scorer next to him.
that would be an awesome idea. nazr could come in for tim. duncan/horry for sar. that would kill.Well for all we know, Timmy might have told the Spurs brass that he's willing to start at C if they can get a 20ppg scorer next to him.
signing nazr to an extension just got harder if nazr wants to start
Exactly!... and Scola comes much cheaper than SAR.
how can you say scola and sar are the same
it is proven what sar can do
nothing is certain with scola
are you saying scola is >sar?
this whole abdur-rahim has never played in an NBA playoff game is bull e to me. he's been on really ty teams, really ty. i don't think that they were playoff contenders until he got there and he ruined them.
it is an intriguing scenario, he is a talented player and the spurs interior offense would be killer, combine that with slashers like parker and manu, with outside shooters like horry, barry, manu et al., this is potentially one of an offensive team. we already have good team D.
it's not done yet, so who knows, but if it does through, i will find a way to get excited about the potential, bet on it.
i was saying something along these lines. it would make good sense, what other center in the west could tim not handle? yao, maybe? dampier, but i think that would be a push or go in duncan's favor. from the east, duncan matches up favorably against ben wallace, jermain oneal and at times shaq. and from what i've heard of SAR, he'd be great against the other power forwards out there, so you'd be losing little at power forward and gaining a lot in the center position. i'm thinking scola isn't coming this year, or at the least he isn't the priority. why would he be? you could spend money now and bring in a guy who will take time getting used to the city, languange and game or you could wait a year and have the same guy for free.Well for all we know, Timmy might have told the Spurs brass that he's willing to start at C if they can get a 20ppg scorer next to him.
and the more i think about it maybe that's a good thing. he's going to take time to settle in as opposed to a guy you could bring in already ready to go. i think the signing of a shooting coach points to a more "here and now" mentality: pop may have been opposed to the idea thinking that his team was still getting formed and needed to learn stuff on its own, but now the team is pretty set and the time for learning is over. i don't think it's any sort of trick or anything that they are going after donyell marshall or SAR (maybe thinking of putting duncan at center). it'd be a good way to go.
I reviewed his box scores from the last couple years in Portland. Rahim does well - sometimes very well - when he starts. Not so well when he doesn't. He also tends to need big minutes to produce, which normally isn't that big a deal. It is a big deal, however, when you try to jam a starter into a bench role. Some players can do it, some players, like SAR, struggle.
This doesn't look like a safe bet by any means.
I don't think we can start SAR over Nazr. Duncan is a natural 4 and moving him might hinder his game a bit. I don't think the Spurs need to go to those lengths to bring in SAR. If he wants to be a Spur he should be willing to accept a role off the bench. He will make a good scoring backup to Duncan but there is no need to mess with the starting 5 that much.
No money talk as Nets give Abdur-Rahim tour
Friday, July 08, 2005
BY DAVE D'ALESSANDRO
Star-Ledger Staff
http://www.nj.com/sports/ledger/inde...770.xml&coll=1
The itinerary yesterday was typical for recruitment visits: He toured the practice facility in East Rutherford, met the owner, went to lunch with Lawrence Frank up in Ridgewood, and then checked out some neighboring Bergen County towns and schools with his wife.
So now the Nets are in a holding pattern, waiting for Shareef Abdur-Rahim to take at least two other trips just like this one and hoping that he found the environment appealing enough to make New Jersey his home for the next six years -- or as long as it takes the franchise to pack up and move to Brooklyn.
"The one thing everyone is missing is there's no negotiation going on here," one Nets official said yesterday, alluding to the finite amount the team can pay the free- agent forward. "Either he likes it and comes, or doesn't like it. That's all there is right now."
A limousine carrying Abdur- Rahim and his wife, Dee, pulled into the team's practice site shortly before noon, and they toured the facility for roughly two hours. He didn't stop to address the media assembled outside, nor did owner Bruce Ratner, who left earlier.
Nets president Rod Thorn, however, looked confident that the team had put its best foot forward.
"We had a nice meeting, and now he will have to look at what all his options are and decide what he wants to do," said Thorn, who took the visiting couple to dinner Wednesday night at a steakhouse in Manhattan. "Obviously, a player's timeline is a player's timeline, but from our perspective we'd like to see what can be done as quickly as possible. In case it doesn't work out, (the team must ensure that) other options aren't gone."
Abdur-Rahim has other options as well. He will visit Sacramento and Miami in the next week, but several executives around the league believe that no team -- other than rebuilding clubs with salary-cap room -- will offer the 28-year-old more than the midlevel exception, the extra fund that teams over the cap can earmark toward free agents.
The Nets can do only slightly better by using their trade exception, which is the money left over from the Kerry Kittles deal (a player-for-draft-pick swap) that can be used to purchase an existing contract from another team. In this scenario, the Nets can send the exception to Portland (valued at $4.9 million), have the Blazers sign him for that first-year salary, stretch it over six years with 10.5 percent annual raises, and come out with a new $37 million contract. There is no wiggle room, and both Abdur-Rahim and his agent, Aaron Goodwin, know it.
"We can do what we can do -- there really isn't anything to talk about," Thorn said. "We'll see what transpires. He is a very nice young man."
The Nets' pursuit of Keyon Dooling remains on hold until Abdur-Rahim makes up his mind, because they don't know how much money to offer the Miami free agent until they determine which exception to use on Abdur- Rahim. The team believes that it is very likely that Portland will accept the trade exception to use in a sign-and-trade scenario, leaving the midlevel for Dooling.
The Nets learned
that they are going to lose two of their own free-agent forwards: Clifford Robinson's negotiation with Miami is progressing quickly, and Brian Scalabrine -- who has spent his entire four-year career in New Jersey -- is expected to sign a five-year, $15 million deal with Boston.
"We figured that might happen, but we didn't know what (contract) number he'd come in at," a team official said. "The number came in great for him, and we're happy for him."
The 6-9 forward is coming off his best year, averaging 6.3 points and 4.5 rebounds in 21 minutes per game, demonstrating that he had graduated from emergency player to rotation player in the 14 games he started at the end of last season.
Let's see, a 28 year old power forward who's a career 20 ppg scorer getting only the MLE from a contender? Yeah, right.Abdur-Rahim has other options as well. He will visit Sacramento and Miami in the next week, but several executives around the league believe that no team -- other than rebuilding clubs with salary-cap room -- will offer the 28-year-old more than the midlevel exception, the extra fund that teams over the cap can earmark toward free agents.
The one thing the article fails to mention is that there is a contender out there with the ability to pay SAR more in a S&T by sending Portland a player in whom they've had an interest.
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