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I can actually see that being fine. Gronk wasn't about to ing blow through the MLB and DB to catch that ball even if he wasn't held. You could go for a lesser penalty, but not PI.
But no one really intends to be offside, no? And intentional or not, it's a still a foul as long as you are involved in the play. Just the same, it's not a foul if you're not involved in the play, even if the offside was 'intentional'.
I think the same spirit applies here, imo
I can actually see that being fine. Gronk wasn't about to ing blow through the MLB and DB to catch that ball even if he wasn't held. You could go for a lesser penalty, but not PI.
that's what just happened tonight the Gronk got taken out of the play by the one guy and the other guy got the pick. ESPNs "expert" is saying because it was INT'd it was uncatchableit doesn't cancel
if that happened they would award the PI penalty at the spot and the INT wouldn't count
once the ball is thrown its either a PI or nothing. holding or illegal contact is only called if it is prior to the pass
This...An uncatchable ball is a ball thrown way over a receiver's head or far to the side, etc..
That ball wasn't uncatchable, it would have taken Gronk like 2 steps to reach it..even if it was a bad throw, you can't just hold the receiver back and prevent him from making the play..
It was so ing obvious, and they just chose not to call it
great day for all theout there
the rationale behind the no call was that the contact didn't matter and gronk would have had no chance to make a play on the ball anyway. there have been plenty of interceptions negated due to pass interference tbh
it's at least holding, cause he was you know being held
No player ever tries to be offside, that's why I think it's OK to call it when an offside player is involved on the play but not when they aren't. The diference with the interference call is that suppossedly every "interference" is intentional, so if a guy is trying to cheat that guy should be penalized no matter where the ball ends up going, imho.
he could have easily cut towards the ball if he wasn't being held
Ah yeah, forgot about that--that actually makes a lot of sense for why it's nothing.
Easily? What exactly is easy about plowing through a MLB and DB to even try to get an attempt to get in a catchable position?
the sodium levels in this thread are alarmingly high. cam took down the great tom brady and made it look easy
Held and pushed into the back of the end zone. But no, it was "uncatchable"
it probably would have taken an offensive PI to get through those 2 guys
Pffft, call me when cam goes 30/38 with 450 yds & 4 td's against a top 5 defense than we'll talk. Otherwise he'll always be a gamemanager to me.
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when was the last time anybody did that?
Peyton Manning is the best QB right now and he only had 1 TD when he played an elite D. i'm not calling cam a top 5 qb or anything. i'm not a fan of his at all. but he had a great game and people such as yourself are still not giving him props. imo he proved tonight that its not "just defense and run game" considering their ground game outside of Cam was
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I get what you're saying. But then do we call PI even when a QB's arm gets hit mid-release (fumble)? On a sack?
Anyways in this game I'm torn. I think the ball would've been picked regardless. Though I kinda agree with you that you shouldn't be able to commit clear PI when the ball is in play, robbing the receiver of even having the opportunity to make a play. It's not as if a receiver is guaranteed to catch the ball in typical PI situations (one on one coverage).
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Real talk though, it's gonna be extra frustrating for Belichick when the NFL issues an apology later this week for the no-call. They should never do that , it's like a slap in the face to every team that gets screwed. Happened to the Bills when they played the Raiders in 04 or 05. Henry scored on a 4th and goal but they said he didn't. One empty apology later, it just made things worse. That loss ended up being huge down the road.
Exactly...
it probably would have taken an offensive PI to get through those 2 guys
Even if Brady throws a better ball, it's still a tough call if it's pass interference. That's probably picked off regardless.
it probably would have taken an offensive PI to get through those 2 guys
under thrown pass.
its a tough call, and imo the ref has to be 100% sure its uncatchable to pick the flag up, so i can definitely understand the outrage. though the PI doesn't really start until u see Kuechly's right hand on gronk's back imo, which wouldn't have given him much time to make a play, given his own momentum was carrying him back
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