Trouble in Crawford: "Why did my son die?"

[j-6]

Did you intentionally misrepresent his approval rating or are you just not good with percentages? You would have been closer if you had rounded it out to 1 out of 2 also known as Half.

Monday, August 8, 2005; CNN Posted: 7:25 p.m. EDT (23:25 GMT)
President Bush's slumping approval ratings seemed directly tied to the war in Iraq.
President Bush's approval rating remains among the lowest of his presidency, with some Americans growing increasingly dissatisfied with the Iraq war, according to a new CNN/USA Today/Gallup poll released Monday.

Forty-five percent of those polled said they approve of Bush's handling of his job, compared with 51 percent who said they are dissatisfied.

There's a link right next to my statement. Here it is again so you don't have to look for it.

http://www.themoderatevoice.com/posts/1124730011.shtml

[Aggie Hoopsfan]

I do think Bush is very poor at communicating objectives and explaining the reasoning behind most of his actions.

History will show that going into Iraq was a great move. Why? Because all the dum Islamoterrorists are going there to take on our heavily armed military and getting their express ticket to their 72 virgins, instead of waiting for them to come across our borders and pick off unarmed civilians.

But of course Bush can't come out and say that, too many on the left wouldn't get it and you don't unzip your fly WRT your opponents when you're in a war for survival (and yes, history will also show this showdown between the West and militant Islam to be one of survival).

I guess the one thing I don't understand about this is why he's ducking her. She's right there! Just go send some blue suit out the front gate to grab her and have a conversation.

Because she's a left wing nut job, that's why. Like I said, Bush could talk to that stupid for the rest of his and her lives, and she'd still be spewing the hate that she is today.

I mean, this woman called Bush the world's worst terrorist. Think about that. When you say like that, you forfeit your right to any legitimate civilized conversation with anyone, let alone the president of the United ing States of America.

[j-6]

Because she's a left wing nut job, that's why. Like I said, Bush could talk to that stupid for the rest of his and her lives, and she'd still be spewing the hate that she is today.

I mean, this woman called Bush the world's worst terrorist. Think about that. When you say like that, you forfeit your right to any legitimate civilized conversation with anyone, let alone the president of the United ing States of America.

Fair enough. Thanks for the answer. But keep in mind that Sheehan's approval rating is at the same 36% as the president, with a much lower disapproval rating (38% v. 58%, or 51% according to the post above quoted from CNN).

You might think she's a whack-job. That's fine, I'm watching this fight from the sidelines, and she does spout off a lot of crap like the tax thing and Bush being a terrorist. But a of a lot of people not named Bush are paying attention to her.

Just something to keep in mind.

[Aggie Hoopsfan]

But a of a lot of people not named Bush are paying attention to her.

That's because there's no other pretty white girls missing on tropical islands, earthquakes in Cali, tsunamis in the Indian Ocean, bombings in London, etc.

The news is slow right now, hence she is somewhere besides the last 2 minutes of the broadcast.

[Trainwreck2100]

That's because there's no other pretty white girls missing on tropical islands, earthquakes in Cali, tsunamis in the Indian Ocean, bombings in London, etc.

The news is slow right now, hence she is somewhere besides the last 2 minutes of the broadcast.

That pretty white girl is still missing, everyone just got bored because they know she's dead

[whottt]

These are kids that enlisted in the service. Yeah it is volunteer, but had they known what kind of quagmire they were getting into, 50% of them would never have enlisted.

They ing know they could get called into a war at any ing time.

It is NOT volunteer to go to Iraq...Big difference there pal.

You put your name on the line the US Govt owns your ass and you VOLUNTEER to go whereever they tell you.

That's it....that's all there is too it...if you aren't willing to fight for this country and enforce the edicts of the US government...then don't join.

You STFU you stupid piece of crap, you ing big man hiding behind a computer, sitting on your big fat white ass who is so easy to allow our young people go and die for NOTHING but big business.

Yeah? And if you want to go suck terrorist and support them killing US soldiers then get the over there and fight those soldiers like a man rather than stabbing them in the back over here in the US.

Do you think the terrorists go "Oh , they're protesting the war in America, what ever will we do now?"

ing morons.

No...they say...hold on a little bit longer till the US govt caves to political pressure....then we can claim victory and get a few more people to follow us....

You go enlist and fight if you are so quick to allow others to do so.

No, you are a pussy a pussy who lets others fight for you.

You don't know about my situation.

"commie ass"?? What a total loser you are to use that term to describe people that have a brain and speak out against the wrongs in the world.


The Soviets were involved with Iran because they are on their Southern border, you freaking numnuts and they needed access to the Gulf...it made perfect sense, you freaking moron.

Yeah the Soviets weren't motivated by Oil at all...which is why they owned half of that ing Oil company you talked about earlier....and occupied Iranian soil for 20 ing years..

[whottt]

"The GRU and KGB helped fund just about every antiwar movement and organization in America and abroad... What will be a great surprise to the American people is that GRU and KGB had a larger budget for antiwar propaganda in the United States than it did for economic and military support to the Vietnamese." - Russian defector Staanislov Lunev in 'Through the Eyes of the Enemy'(page 78).

The term "useful idiots" has been attributed to Lenin, as a description of those mindless people in the Western democracies who would always find ways to excuse whatever the Soviet Union did.

Quote Usama Bin Laden:

I ask the American people to force their government to give up anti-Muslim policies. The American people had risen against their government's war in Vietnam. They must do the same today.

Go libs go....

[Aggie Hoopsfan]

Damn some people need to go take some world history classes.

The last war the US lost was Vietnam. The last war that Osama's crew won was against Russia in Afghanistan.

What did both wars have in common? "Bleed them until public sentiment brings them back home."

Osama's running the same playbook today, and it looks like quite a few are falling for the same sucker play.

[Aggie Hoopsfan]

With that being true. It still doesn't take away from the fact that if he would have talked to her she would have been well on her way out of there.

For the 84,293rd time, talking her would have solved nothing and would have given her more political capital.

He could have said "I'm sorry" 1000 times to her, and she would have just sauntered out and said "he said he was sorry, but I could tell he didn't mean it", and then the media would be creaming themselves all over it.

[Jelly]

For the 84,293rd time, talking her would have solved nothing and would have given her more political capital.

He could have said "I'm sorry" 1000 times to her, and she would have just sauntered out and said "he said he was sorry, but I could tell he didn't mean it", and then the media would be creaming themselves all over it.

No. She would have come out and said "he acted like it was a pep rally. He was so upbeat and didn't even know Casey's name. He wouldn't even look at his picture". Other families that were at that first meeting with Bush have said this was a total mischaractization of the presidents demeanor.

She actually already asked the "Why did my son die" question and he said "because I believe everyone deserves to live in freedom". So she got an answer, she just doesn't like it or agree with it.
Still, it would have been wise for the president to have defused this situation earlier and met with her. Then what could she complain about, that the President of the United States only met with her twice?

[sbsquared]

I can't remember who was interviewing Cindy, but I heard the clip on the Laura Ingraham show last week - anyway, the man said to Cindy "if the President comes out and talks to you now, it would kind of stop all this momentum." Cindy replied, "yes, it would really stop all this momentum we've got going, so I hope he doesn't come out and talk to me." She also said that she hoped that the Bush Administration hadn't thought of that.

So, does she really want to talk to the President? Or does she just want to extend her 15 minutes of fame and continue spewing her hatred?

[whottt]

Um...the President of the Unites States of America is not an errand boy.

She doesn't dictate anything to the Pres...no matter how much the radical left that is using her may want it...

It's not working by the way...this isn't the 60's anymore and the anti-war movement isn't convincing anyone of anything but themselves....incestous propaganda does not a growing movement make.

[Clandestino]

Damn some people need to go take some world history classes.

The last war the US lost was Vietnam. The last war that Osama's crew won was against Russia in Afghanistan.

What did both wars have in common? "Bleed them until public sentiment brings them back home."

Osama's running the same playbook today, and it looks like quite a few are falling for the same sucker play.

vietnam had russia and china backing them.

afghanistan had us backing them...

[Nbadan]

Apparently, its only BAD for liberals and Cindy Sheehan to 'allegedly' use the troops to push a purely political agenda...

Speaking in Idaho a few minutes ago, Bush argued that moms like Cindy Sheehan are a threat to freedom:

There are few things more difficult in life than seeing a loved one go off to war, and here in Idaho, a mom named Tammy Pruitt…knows that feeling six times over.

Tammy has four sons serving in Iraq right now with the Idaho National Guard — Eric, Evan, Greg, and Jeff. Last year, her husband Leon and another son Aaron returned from Iraq where they helped train Iraqi firefighters in Mosul.

Tammy says this — and I want you to hear this — “I know that if something happens to one of the boys, they would leave this world doing what they believe, what they think is right for our country. And I guess you couldn’t ask for a better way of life than giving it for something you believe in.”

America lives in freedom because of families like the Pruitts.

Think Progress

[mookie2001]

Oh STFU with that stupid ass "aiding and abetting" crap you neocons love to spew. It is every American's right to speak out and nowhere in the cons ution does it say any American has to blindly be behind Dubya.

Get your head out of his ass and see the real world.

And the right is only "American" when they have a republican in office.
You were very un-American during the Clinton years just like 99.9% of conservatives are.

^OWNED
i remember those times
Rush Limbaugh was the most unamerican bas alive

[whottt]

Commies can't own anything.

[Nbadan]

From this point forward the W administration shall hence forth be known as the shill administration. So far we've had shill reporters - Gannon/Yonivore and Novak, and shill cabinet members - almost every cabinet member, but especially the hispanic ones, and now the Republican Party bring you a new shill to gawk at and wonder, why? Shill protestors.

Republican Shills

Move America Forward ( the Hate crowd ) was outed today by Keith Olbermann as having been launched by a Sacramento P.R. firm which has strong ties to the Republican party. Later in the segment Dana Milbank said that they were part of the Orin Hatch for President campaign. lol That's grassroots for you. This diary at Kos was the first one that I found which uncovered the scam.

The Swift boating of Cindy is led by Sal Russo and Mr. Puke himself Mark Williams. These people are bottom feeding s suckers of the lowest kind. Their Creepy Caravan is nothing more than Republican operatives trying to combat a powerful message by Sheehan in the only way they know how to respond. S-M-E-A-R. Here's much more information about MAF's antics from the Center for Media and Democracy.

Crooks and Liars

[Nbadan]

Sheehan returns to Crawford:

Sheehan returns to Crawford
Dead soldier's mom resumes anti-war vigil before Bush returns

CRAWFORD, Texas (CNN) -- The California woman at the center of anti-war protests outside President Bush's ranch returned to Texas to cheers -- and a few boos -- Wednesday after nearly a week away to tend her ailing mother.

About 40 supporters, and a couple of Bush supporters, greeted Sheehan's return to "Camp Casey," outside Bush's property. The protest site, made up of two campsites, is named after her 24-year-old son, an Army mechanic killed in Baghdad last year.

While she was away, Sheehan's supporters erected a 10-by-10-foot banner with the dates of her son's birth and death and the words: "In loving memory of Army Specialist Casey A. Sheehan."

Sheehan broke down in tears upon seeing it, prompting first aid treatment by medical personnel.

The campsites are lined with crosses bearing the names of American troops killed in Iraq, and Sheehan laid flowers and kissed the markers bearing her son's name.

Returning to Camp Casey, Sheehan receives help after feeling faint upon seeing a banner for her son.

[Nbadan]

Apparently, the anti-Sheehan group in Crawford supports their cause the way young, conservative, chicken-hawks support the Army...

[whottt]

They have jobs...

[Aggie Hoopsfan]

Sheehan broke down in tears upon seeing it, prompting first aid treatment by medical personnel.

A little bit overly dramatic...

Man I'm tired of this . She wants US troops completely out of the Mideast. That won't solve a damn thing, just clear the way for AQ to grow and set up a caliphate.

Wasn't she paying attention during the Cold War?

[mookie2001]

ROFLROFL

[Jelly]

I'm sorry. But every picture I see of Cindy Sheehan looks so staged, overwrought and corny....like bad Shakespeare in the park.

[Nbadan]

Whatever you think of Cindy Sheehan it is incredible that W won't just meet with her and be honest and tell her that Iraq was elective war.

W's problem may soon turn into Tom Delay's problem

Iraq war protestor says to shift focus to Congress

CRAWFORD, Texas, Aug 26 (Reuters) - Iraq war protester Cindy Sheehan, whose vigil near President George W. Bush's Texas ranch has become a symbol for the anti-war movement, said on Friday she plans to focus on Congress, starting with Bush close ally and fellow Texan House Majority Leader Tom DeLay.

Sheehan has been demanding a meeting with Bush to discuss the U.S. presence in Iraq, where her son was killed in 2004, and next Thursday plans to begin a bus tour from Bush's ranch to the White House to campaign for withdrawal of U.S. troops.

One of DeLay's Texas district offices would likely be the first stop, she said. That would be about a 5.5 hour drive from Bush's ranch in Crawford, where he is on a month-long vacation.

"I think our first stop might be Tom DeLay's office," she said, surrounded by supporters. "I just wanted to let him know so he'll be in his office when we get there."
"The president is not going to meet with us, probably," Sheehan said. "We the people need to influence our congressional representatives and I hear he's pretty close by," referring to DeLay.

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[Clandestino]

stupid . she's just a puppet. i guess if it pays her bills. there is no way in her son would approve of this bull .