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    single payor isn't the solution. Medicare for all is. Taken out of everybody's incomes, including unearned income.
    goddam, you're stupid.

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    goddam, you're stupid.

    extreme right wing ESTABLISHMENT Repugs have all the POWER, and Trash will sign every piece of their socuopathic
    Yep, he's gonna be "Nicky" in "Casino." Gonna take that pen and go to work. When Trump is done all you're gonna hear is a little girl cryin'.

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    He was in on it!
    That was tongue in cheek. I don't do color coded text.

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    Today's Politics

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    It's been this way since '60 when Kennedy ran. We just keep getting further from shore each day. It's been out of sight for many years.

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    Trump may or may not end up being a terrible POTUS but he ended the Bush's and Clintons grip on power. Obama should present him with the Medal of Freedom at the inauguration just for that.
    Actually Obama ended that. Should trump give Barry a medal?

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    It's been this way since '60 when Kennedy ran. We just keep getting further from shore each day. It's been out of sight for many years.
    Once they let those slaves loose by God...

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    Yep, he's gonna be "Nicky" in "Casino." Gonna take that pen and go to work. When Trump is done all you're gonna hear is a little girl cryin'.

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    Great movie, but Sharon Stone almost ruined it.

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    goddam, the Repugs are treasonous bas s

    Trump National Security Adviser Called Russian Envoy Day Before Sanctions Were Imposed


    ■ The national security adviser appointed by President-elect Donald J. Trump called a Russian envoy the day before sanctions were imposed on Russia for meddling in the election.

    https://www.nytimes.com/2017/01/13/us/politics/donald-trump-transition.html?partner=rss&emc=rss

    WTF is going on? Trash, his team are not only illegitimate, they are totally compromised.

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    Trump may or may not end up being a terrible POTUS but he ended the Bush's and Clintons grip on power. Obama should present him with the Medal of Freedom at the inauguration just for that.

    LMAO.

    Thinking taking care of Jeb was some sort of huge achievement. Whe even Marco Rubio won like 2 primaries to his zero.

    grip on power

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    Great movie, but Sharon Stone almost ruined it.
    How so, Darrin?

    ---The movie though did have a TV feel about it at times. And it felt rushed like Scorsese wanted to finish and get on to something of merit. But, it's watchable from any point you find it. I can't take the final scene that bum lodged, nor the one where they squeeze that guys head in the vice, and when they skip trace the bagman down to South America and murder him. But, everything else is doable.

    I like the part where DeNiro watches the young lad compliment his wife. It's great acting there by DeNiro. Makes it look easy, but, it wasn't.
    I like the part where Rickles is actually Rickles for just a moment as he ushers the Japanese off the plane..."Better here than up there." That was nice of Scorsese to allow this.

    The movie had a feel of "Donnie Brasco" about it at times.

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    I basically quoted it. Grasping at straws and leaking rumors because of confirmation bias (or other worse motives) with regard to Trump/Russia amounts to crying wolf and numbs the population (particularly his supporters) into apathy and distrust. If there really is concern about any ties, or any reason he could be compromised/blackmailed, the public deserves an full and independent review.
    Eyup.

    The Russians having something very compromising on the Defendant-in-Chief would explain why Trump is so eager to make Putin happy. One has to wonder.

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    Eyup.

    The Russians having something very compromising on the Defendant-in-Chief would explain why Trump is so eager to make Putin happy. One has to wonder.
    One has to wonder why the US intelligence agencies keep embarrassing themselves.

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    Never said anything about the CIA being approached.
    4chan>>>RickWilson>>>EvanMcMullin>>>JohnMcCain>>>C IA
    Here is the flow chart.
    SA has the goods, the intelligence agencies have embarrassed themselves.

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    Here is the flow chart.
    SA has the goods, the intelligence agencies have embarrassed themselves.
    Has the IC embarrassed themselves recently yes or no?

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    One has to wonder why the US intelligence agencies keep embarrassing themselves.
    Our intelligence agencies are filled with earnest, intelligent people, trained to follow evidence where it leads.

    Little wonder that people like you seem to jump on the hatin' bandwagon.

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    Our intelligence agencies are filled with earnest, intelligent people, trained to follow evidence where it leads.

    Little wonder that people like you seem to jump on the hatin' bandwagon.
    Believing they embarrassed themselves is not hating. Nothing wrong with being critical of their recent conduct.

    Do you not think they embarrassed themselves with the JAR report? Because the rest of the private intelligence community sure seems to think they did.

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    Our intelligence agencies are filled with earnest, intelligent people, trained to follow evidence where it leads.
    And "they're hard working" too. We've been reminded of that a zillion times by CNN since Trump dragged their corrupt asses into the street.

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    Russians or anybody else having dirt on Trash is credible.

    I bet somebody cracks a system eventually and spills it all. Pootin tool Assange obviously won't publish it. will come from somewhere else

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    Russians or anybody else having dirt on Trash is credible.

    I bet somebody cracks a system eventually and spills it all. Pootin tool Assange obviously won't publish it. will come from somewhere else
    What do you want to bet somebody doesn't? If somebody had it they would have already spilled it.

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    Other useful articles about the Trump-Russia file.



    1. See Masha Gessen’s devastating analysis of the IC’s report about Russian interference in the US election, relying on weak or fake evidence to draw dubious conclusions: “Russia, Trump & Flawed Intelligence“.
    2. As a reminder, here is a big list of US government officials’ past lies about vital matters
    3. Good advice by the team at Lawfare: “About that Explosive Trump Story: Take a Deep Breath“.
    4. Glenn Greenwald goes to the heart of the issue: “The Deep State Goes to War with President-Elect, Using Unverified Claims, as Democrats Cheer“.
    5. David French at National Reviewgives a fair summary.
    6. A shrewd debunking: “The Trump Dossier Is Fake — And Here Are The Reasons Why” by Paul Roderick Gregory at Forbes.
    https://fabiusmaximus.com/2017/01/18...p-russia-file/

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    Eyup.

    The Russians having something very compromising on the Defendant-in-Chief would explain why Trump is so eager to make Putin happy. One has to wonder.
    It would, what evidence do you see for the hostile inference apart from allegations our intelligence services cannot attach confidence to because they are completely unverified?

    Spidey-sense?

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    CIA-Funded Washington Post Doesn’t Think The CIA Should Have To Prove Russian Hacking


    The Washington Post, whose owner has been paid hundreds of millions of dollars by the CIA, has published an article explaining why the CIA shouldn’t have to substantiate its claims of Russian tampering in the American presidential election. In related news, Rex Tillerson supports the growth of the fossil fuel industry and Anthony Weiner opposes age of consent laws.

    The author of this fantastic specimen of oligarchic masturbation is an allegedly retired CIA agent named Steven L. Hall, who allegedly ran and managed Russian operations from 1985 to 2015. The fact that the Washington Post is now owned and operated by a known WikiLeaks opponent with known ties to the CIA and is now running op-eds by actual CIA agents arguing in favor of CIA agendas confirms everyone’s su ions that the once-proud publication has officially degenerated into a trade rag for the Central Intelligence Agency. You got your Florist’s Review for the flower trade, your Building Magazine for the construction trade, and your Washington Post for the CIA.

    In the article, agent-turned-editorialist Hall bloviates for some 1,500 words about how sharing proof of this thing the CIA clearly desperately wants the American public to believe could compromise security and lead human sources to stop providing intel. He coincidentally writes this in the very publication that broke the news that anonymous CIA sources claimed Russia manipulated the presidential election in the first place, which is coincidentally the same publication whose owner has a 600 million dollar contract with the CIA, who coincidentally bought the publication the same year it became legal for the U.S. government to conduct psy-ops on its citizens (psy-ops coincidentally being a known specialty of the CIA that it routinely uses to manipulate the citizenry in foreign governments around the world). WaPo never mentions this conflict of interestwhen covering stories about the CIA. Coincidentally.


    So to recap, the CIA needed left-leaning Americans to focus on hating Russia instead of talking about the WikiLeaks do ents which revealed an appalling amount of corruption within the Democratic establishment, so it “leaked” a story to a publication with which it is enormously financially invested in order to facilitate that, and now that publication is explaining to those same left-leaning Americans, like a patient father, why the CIA cannot substantiate the claims it needs them to believe.

    This is the same Democratic establishment, by the way, which has been comparing the alleged Russian hacks to Watergate and 9/11 in terms of severity, which has been threatening “military responses” and promising sanctions and retaliations against a nuclear superpower for this transgression it cannot substantiate but urgently needs us to believe. This is also the same publication, by the way, that is publishing propaganda with such frantic, inflammatory headlines as “Russia attacked our democracy,” “As Trump prepares his kissy face for Putin, a glimpse into the dictator’s soul,” “Vladimir Putin wants a new world order. Why would Donald Trump help him?” and, hilariously, “Trump’s dangerous diss of the CIA” and “Trump is already antagonizing the intelligence community, and that’s a problem.”

    So these clowns are falling all over themselves trying to convince us that Russia is this apocalyptic nightmare we should all be terrified of, but at the same time assuring us that it’s not important enough for them to go about “jeopardizing sources” to provide proof. Come on, CIA, which is it? Either this is an urgent matter we all need to believe, or it’s not important enough to go through the hassle of having to find new sources afterward. You can’t have it both ways. You’re being ridiculous.

    Are these really the people who’ve been pulling the strings behind the scenes all these decades? The people who’ve toppled regimes and installed puppet governments around the world can’t even spin a yarn that makes sense anymore? I’m no fan of Trump, but I can certainly understand why he doesn’t want to sit through any intelligence briefings with these goofballs. He’d probably learn more about America watching South Park reruns and listening to Mad Dog Mattis talk about all the different ways you can kill a man with a lemon zester. A lot of power dynamics will shift in the intelligence community when the Orange One takes the wheel, and it’s a damn shame we won’t be able to see much of it, because it’s gonna be good.

    I hate the Washington Post. I hate the lies and the manipulation, but most of all I hate the system where such a thing can exist. Could you ask for a better representation of the sickest aspects of corporatism than Jeff Bezos, a politically entrenched plutocrat and the fifth wealthiest person in the world, building a state media empire dedicated to maintaining support for the status quo that made him so filthy stinking rich the moment it became legal to propagandize U.S. citizens? It’s absolutely outrageous that such a thing is possible, and we need to keep pointing at the sickness to help people see through the lies.




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    Reported treason arrests fuel Russian hacking intrigue

    MOSCOW – In the days since it emerged that four men had been arrested on treason charges linked to cyber intelligence and Russia's domestic security agency, conspiracy theories and speculation about the case have swept through Moscow.

    Was it some fallout from the alleged Russian hacking of the U.S. presidential election? Were they part of a hunt for a possible mole who tipped off American intelligence agencies? Was it a power struggle within Russia's security services?


    Specifics of the case are murky, and no Russian government officials have commented publicly. Russian media have been filled with lurid, often contradictory, details that most assume are leaked by warring factions of intelligence officers.


    Linking the arrests to the U.S. vote would mean joining the dots between a series of shadowy actors in the Russian internet world.

    In one of the few formal acknowledgements of the case, Ivan Pavlov, a Russian defense lawyer specializing in treason cases, confirmed to The Associated Press that at least four arrests on linked treason charges had taken place. He declined to elaborate.

    The first arrest emerged last week with the news of the detention of Ruslan Stoyanov, an executive at Kaspersky Lab, a cybersecurity firm.

    Stoyanov apparently traveled widely as the head of the company's computer incidents investigations. According to his LinkedIn profile, he was employed by the Russian Interior Ministry's cybercrime unit in the early 2000s and hired by Kaspersky in 2012. Kaspersky has said the charges against Stoyanov relate to a time before he joined the company.


    Multiple Russian media outlets have reported the detention of three officers working for the cybercrime division of the FSB, Russia's domestic security agency, at around the same time as Stoyanov's arrest in December. Two of the men have been named in Russian media as Col. Sergei Mikhailov, deputy head of the FSB's Information Security Center (TsIB), and a subordinate, Maj. Dmitry Dokuchayev. Pavlov said a fourth defendant in the case was his client, but he refused to reveal his name.


    TsIB is an "experienced cyberespionage outfit" that has expanded rapidly in recent years, according to Galeotti. "Their job is to hoover up everything they can."


    Reporting by Russia's opposition newspaper Novaya Gazeta and U.S. cybersecurity journalist Brian Krebs suggested compromising material on the FSB officers may have been a revenge operation by 26-year-old Vladimir Fomenko, revealed by U.S. cyber firm ThreatConnect last year as the owner of servers used in hacks on election systems in Arizona and Illinois, and a Russian businessman, Pavel Vrublevsky, who was jailed for a year in 2013 for organizing cyberattacks on a compe or.

    http://www.foxnews.com/world/2017/01...-intrigue.html

    Fox is reporting this? ???


    Doesn't Fox adore Pootin and Russia as America's friend and ally?



    http://www.foxnews.com/world/2017/01...-intrigue.html

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