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Of course not, but you can't deny that they are geared to ridding themselves of what they consider black thug clothing.
The media never did not like TD. They misunderstood him. They did not get him, because he always appeared boring, when in fact he is quite funny and witty.
He is never going to be a media darling, but that is his chaoice, not the medias.
Of course not, but you can't deny that they are geared to ridding themselves of what they consider black thug clothing.
Now you are just jerking my chain. I wasted a freaking hour of my morning arguing with someone that probably agrees with me.
Jim, I appreciate your desire to see the Spurs to be respected nationally. But this will blow over, just like the brief time when David Robinson was called greedy for negotiating his last contract to 10mm/yr.
If you really believe this, you are truly naive.I have to answer this ludicrous question.
THEY ARE NOT ONLY MAKING THESE RULES FOR THE BLACK PLAYERS!!!!!
Christ almighty.
Still notice you haven't answered (for the third time) the question about baseball players and NBA owners.
I don't think I agree with you at all. I'm saying the rules were MADE for black players, but enforced for all.Now you are just jerking my chain. I wasted a freaking hour of my morning arguing with someone that probably agrees with me.
Uhoh, this is getting interesting:
http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/news/story?id=2198089
OAKLAND, Calif. -- Jason Richardson wants to keep wearing his chains, and the Golden State Warriors guard believes the NBA's new dress code takes aim at black players in the league.
He is calling for the players' association to fight the new wardrobe rules announced this week that will go into effect when the season kicks off next month.
"They want to sway away from the hip-hop generation," Richardson said Wednesday night before the Warriors played the Phoenix Suns in a preseason game. "You think of hip-hop right now and think of things that happen like gangs having shootouts in front of radio stations.
"One thing to me that was kind of racist was you can't wear chains outside your clothing. I don't understand what that has to do with being business approachable. ... You wear a suit, you still could be a crook. You see all what happened with Enron and Martha Stewart. Just because you dress a certain way doesn't mean you're that way. Hey, a guy could come in with baggy jeans, a 'do rag and have a Ph.D. and a person who comes in with a suit could be a three-time felon."
Or the nursery...Duncan said he might choose to stay in the locker room on nights he isn't playing.
yes, its all clear to me now, the entire world is against the black population! Everything in history, from the time man walked the earth, has been to subjugate our black brethren! Oh poor them!
Look, Im not saying these rules dont target a large part of young black culture, but to say its racist is flat out freaking rediculous.
Stricktly from a business standpoint, and Im aware this is taking it to the extreme, who would you rather have representing your company based stricty on their attire? Nothing to do with what type of business, how much they get paid or previous company rules.
This?
Or This?
The bottom line is this:
NBA = Business
players = Employees
The business can do whatever it feels is necessary, if the employees dont conform they are well in their rights to look for another job.
Nobody ever came close to saying anything like that, but you just said a lot about yourself. A lot of pent-up hostility there, eh?
Explain the ESPN poll then.Look, Im not saying these rules dont target a large part of young black culture, but to say its racist is flat out freaking rediculous.
Better yet, tell us why there shouldn't be a dress code for the NBA owners and for baseball.
What they really want is a lot more of this:Stricktly from a business standpoint, and Im aware this is taking it to the extreme, who would you rather have representing your company based stricty on their attire? Nothing to do with what type of business, how much they get paid or previous company rules.
I notice there were no concerns about dress codes in this picture.
I'd rather have an upstanding guy who does a lot for his communities, both monetarily and personally, in a t-shirt and jeans and flip-flops than Kobe Bryant in a suit.
That's my bottom line.
Phyzik, you'd rather see pictures of Kobe in a suit at a rape trial, than some guys wear "hip hop" clothing?
He presents himself so well.
called sarcasm, and no no one said it but alot of you are implying it.
1. ESPN poll..... its ESPN, you read their message boards lately?Explain the ESPN poll then.
Better yet, tell us why there shouldn't be a dress code for the NBA owners and for baseball.
2. How often have you seen Pop, RC, Stern, P. Jackson, ect, ect wearing pants around their thighs, throwback jerseys (which I think are cool) and a doo rag when they are on the job? Besides that, Im sure something will be put in their that affects management somehow.
3. WTF does Baseball have to do with the NBA? They are 2 completely seperate en ies.
Nash has his shirt tucked out, picture doesnt show but I believe he was wearing jeans. Is that when he got the MVP trophy? That was like back in May before any of this crap started so your point is moot.What they really want is a lot more of this:
I notice there were no concerns about dress codes in this picture.
What they really want is a lot more of this:
I notice there were no concerns about dress codes in this picture.
No kidding. Nash looked like he just stepped out from under a highway overpass during all of last season. Stern is so ing transparent with this move it isn't funny. It makes middle aged, upper middle class white men think that the league is really cracking down on those 'rowdy negroes'. That's what Stern wants because that's who buys a lot of suites, season tickets and who a number of sponsors target for their products and services.
your taking my point out of context. I realize WHEN the picture was taken, what Im asking is to look at the clothing and nothing else... Apparently no one can seem to grasp that concept here. Maybe picking an image of Kobe wasnt such a great idea but it was the best I could come up with in a short ammount of time, Im not gonna waste 20 min. looking for a better image when, if people can use their imagination, this will do just fine.
Phyzik, you'd rather see pictures of Kobe in a suit at a rape trial, than some guys wear "hip hop" clothing?
I get the concept, but you picked a horrendous example.your taking my point out of context. I realize WHEN the picture was taken, what Im asking is to look at the clothing and nothing else... Apparently no one can seem to grasp that concept here.
I don't have any problem with the clothing in the top picture or Kobe's suit.
called sarcasm, and no no one said it but alot of you are implying it.
Gee, I wonder if that could possibly be because of what the motivations behind the dress codes infer or maybe because of what was targeted in the dress code. No, probably we just like to scream about racism.
The point is that the vast majority of basketball players are young black men, while the vast majority of baseball players are young white men. The fact that people seem to find a dress code appropriate for basketball but not baseball indicates that there is a racist or prejudicial slant to the dress code.3. WTF does Baseball have to do with the NBA? They are 2 completely seperate en ies.
The point (not even made by me) is NOT moot - because this paragon of professionalism, who does amazing work in his team communities as well as his hometown, and is generally considered to be a really great all around stand up guy is in violation of the new dress code while receiving a major award. People keep arguring about professionalism in basketball and appearance. According to those arguments, Nash's appearance clearly indicates that he is not a professional person. But that is ridiculous - and this photo highlights what is stupid about the reasoning behind the dress code (which is what makes so many people here angry with it).Nash has his shirt tucked out, picture doesnt show but I believe he was wearing jeans. Is that when he got the MVP trophy? That was like back in May before any of this crap started so your point is moot.
This picture looks like AJ took some special needs kid down there for a tour of the stadium.
"See Mark, this is where the players warm up."
"I love bassidbowl! Weeeeeeee!"
ok, but we all know Cuban is the red headed step child of the NBA.
MLB players often dress like but we don't see them incurring the wrath of the league for it.
What the ? You receive an award for being the best player in the league and you show up dressed casually?Nash has his shirt tucked out, picture doesnt show but I believe he was wearing jeans. Is that when he got the MVP trophy? That was like back in May before any of this crap started so your point is moot.
But it's white casual, not black casual.
Not hard to see what's going on.
The point IS moot because at the time of that award there was no dress code. To use that image, which again was taken back in MAY before the dress code was even mentioned, as a basis for your arguement that it is somehow a one sided rule is totally unfair.The point (not even made by me) is NOT moot - because this paragon of professionalism, who does amazing work in his team communities as well as his hometown, and is generally considered to be a really great all around stand up guy is in violation of the new dress code while receiving a major award. People keep arguring about professionalism in basketball and appearance. According to those arguments, Nash's appearance clearly indicates that he is not a professional person. But that is ridiculous - and this photo highlights what is stupid about the reasoning behind the dress code (which is what makes so many people here angry with it).
as far as MLB, again, ITS A DIFFERENT BUSINESS!!! If freaking McDonalds starts telling its employees to wear ties, are you going to ask why BK or Jack in the Box isnt doing the same thing? Please. That sounds childish.
Mommy, why do I have to do that when they dont? whaaa.
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This discussion recalls an ancedote. A friend of mine said that his dad went to a Rockets game in the Toyota Center. His dad is in his 50s, works for a large company and I think had some pretty damn good seats. My friend asked him how he liked the game and his dad's response was...
...'well, it was good, except for all of that black .'
This is why the NBA has ins uted a dress code and yet we don't see that in the other major US pro sport leagues.
This is also why I don't have a problem with Duncan sounding off about it. Spare me all of the drivel about how he needs to know his role or whatever. If you had the talent to pull down $20 mil a year you'd be telling it like it is too.
The point IS moot because at the time of that award there was no dress code. To use that image, which again was taken back in MAY before the dress code was even mentioned, as a basis for your arguement that it is somehow a one sided rule is totally unfair.
as far as MLB, again, ITS A DIFFERENT BUSINESS!!! If freaking McDonalds starts telling its employees to wear ties, are you going to ask why BK or Jack in the Box isnt doing the same thing? Please. That sounds childish.
Mommy, why do I have to do that when they dont? whaaa.
It's a pro sport league in the US and players are seen frequently in the public, going to and from games as well as giving post game interviews.
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