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    Kawhi talk starts around 28 min.. Not much new, just more discussion, Woj saying he could clear this all up by coming out and speaking, but knows Kawhi doesn't talk much to anyone. Just because that's who he is. But he has some responsibility to his team to clear the air a bit on the situation


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    The KawaiTing Game

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    Kawhi talk starts around 28 min.. Not much new, just more discussion, Woj saying he could clear this all up by coming out and speaking, but knows Kawhi doesn't talk much to anyone. Just because that's who he is. But he has some responsibility to his team to clear the air a bit on the situation

    So weird considering it was Woj with Lowe/Wright that basically started the drama and now saying “he can squash the rumors”. Bruh, you reported the rumors! If he squashes them that means you messed up

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    https://www.si.com/nba/2018/02/23/ka...lines-to-watch

    From Sports Illustrated. Talks about distance between Spurs and Kawhi.

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    So weird considering it was Woj with Lowe/Wright that basically started the drama and now saying “he can squash the rumors”. Bruh, you reported the rumors! If he squashes them that means you messed up
    Quote... Reporters... End quote.

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    Love this post and concur. Also agree with DPG21920 that it was Woj who started all this drama in the first place and now he’s asking Kawhi to clean up his mess by speaking to the media. Pop never said ‘he’s cleared to play and won’t’ that was all Woj stirring that pot.

    Also some nice quotes posted by YGWHI today. If Kawhi could play he would. When he can play he will. ‘What doesn’t kill you makes you stronger.’

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    So weird considering it was Woj with Lowe/Wright that basically started the drama and now saying “he can squash the rumors”. Bruh, you reported the rumors! If he squashes them that means you messed up
    I mean technically here is what Woj reported initially

    Months of discord centering on elements of treatment, rehabilitation and timetables for return from a right quadriceps injury have had a chilling impact on San Antonio Spurs star Kawhi Leonard's relationship with the franchise and coaching staff, league sources told ESPN.
    And that still seems to be the case today, it's about his rehab, 2nd opinions, return from injury, etc.. But once he reported that, it opened the floodgates for Jalen Rose, Stephen A, and any other theories thrown out there, mainly around the fact Kawhi is unhappy and wants out.

    I think he meant more so about him coming out and addressing the injury/rehab complications, despite the fact that he's away from the team. Ramona referred to Nash when he had a mysterious back injury in LA, and saw different specialists away from the team, but kept the media/teammates informed. Said he was frustrated and wanted to help the team, but he didn't know what was wrong with his back. They also mentioned Kawhi isn't Nash when it comes to be communicative

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    https://www.si.com/nba/2018/02/23/ka...lines-to-watch

    From Sports Illustrated. Talks about distance between Spurs and Kawhi.
    These lyrics seem an accurate measure.





    Just kidding.

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    Just another article on this and Kawhi having to feel comfortable enough to return. From Kawhi's old stomping grounds

    Kawhi Leonard, Spurs disagreement not that unusual


    We ave talked about it with Aaron Rodgers and others. The Leonard situation, who has been sidelined this season witrh quadriceps tendinopathy, is no different.

    The timing dynamic of when someone returns to play is always a three-headed monster. It is a joint decision between medical staff, player and team. All three parties have to agree for the player to return. Any one of the three "votes no," and it doesn't happen.


    In the end, only the patient can judge pain and symptoms. I will say, having primarily worked in the NFL but also having been a part of an NBA medical staff, it is more difficult to play in the NBA when not at 100 percent. For a football player late in the season, 80 percent is tantamount to full strength. A basketball player needs to be closer to 100 percent to be effective.


    Of course, once Leonard says he is ready, the team, as Spurs coach Gregg Popovich has indicated, has the right to say "too late" out of a desire to not disrupt chemistry late in the season.

    Having been in the professional sports medical trenches, I can see how this may be playing out in San Antonio. It does not signal the end of Leonard's tenure with the Spurs. Working through the process of getting medical staff, player and team to agree before return to play is normal.


    http://www.sandiegouniontribune.com/...222-story.html

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    I mean technically here is what Woj reported initially



    And that still seems to be the case today, it's about his rehab, 2nd opinions, return from injury, etc.. But once he reported that, it opened the floodgates for Jalen Rose, Stephen A, and any other theories thrown out there, mainly around the fact Kawhi is unhappy and wants out.

    I think he meant more so about him coming out and addressing the injury/rehab complications, despite the fact that he's away from the team. Ramona referred to Nash when he had a mysterious back injury in LA, and saw different specialists away from the team, but kept the media/teammates informed. Said he was frustrated and wanted to help the team, but he didn't know what was wrong with his back. They also mentioned Kawhi isn't Nash when it comes to be communicative
    That back injury eventually retired Nash ... food for thought

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    That back injury eventually retired Nash ... food for thought
    Yea. he was also much older and had more mileage, + different injury .

    Not saying it's not possible with Kawhi, but very different. Maybe it takes a few years off his career, but there's no indications at least now, that there's any concern for that. Especially since he has been cleared by all docs. It's just Kawhi who needs to feel comfortable/confident enough to get on the court

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    Yea. he was also much older and had more mileage, + different injury .

    Not saying it's not possible with Kawhi, but very different. Maybe it takes a few years off his career, but there's no indications at least now, that there's any concern for that. Especially since he has been cleared by all docs. It's just Kawhi who needs to feel comfortable/confident enough to get on the court
    I obviously know it’s very different. Every example is going to be different anyways.

    What’s similar is the seriousness of the complications and the fact specialists had to be consulted, with ultimately no solution being able to be found.

    I am afraid Kiwi isn’t heading in a good direction with his comparables... He can be medically cleared bc there’s no structural damage and yet there can be changes at the molecular level, with his tendon basically being diseased. I hope he finds a real solution to his problem...

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    https://www.si.com/nba/2018/02/23/ka...lines-to-watch

    From Sports Illustrated. Talks about distance between Spurs and Kawhi.
    Here is the verbatim SI report:

    2. Kawhi Leonard. The Kawhi conversation would be the most interesting subplot in the NBA if there were any chance we'd learn anything new over the next two months. Alas, Spurs omerta will probably prevent us from ever getting much more than what we know based on Pop's comments and Woj's reporting: Kawhi is probably not coming back this year. The decision on when to return is reportedly up to him as he's been cleared to play, but he's remaining sidelined for reasons that aren't entirely clear. It's a strange situation. Communication between the Spurs and their MVP candidate hasn't been great, and even Popovich doesn't seem to have many answers for what's gone wrong or what comes next. Kawhi is eligible to sign a supermax extension to stay with the team this summer, or he can hit unrestricted free agency in the summer of 2019. Both of those details add some drama to the next few months.

    A source from another team told me recently that the distance between Leonard and the Spurs is real, but the Spurs aren't panicking. They'll wait until he comes back before making any franchise-altering decisions, even if that means waiting until next September. We'll see. Waiting to work things out when Kawhi returns seems like the prudent course, and that's probably the most likely outcome. But Kawhi playing basketball this year was also considered a foregone conclusion at one point, and what's happened since has been strange enough to make you wonder about the future.

    For now, Kawhi Leonard's injury is like Markelle Fultz's jumpshot, but it's happening to one of the five most valuable players in the sport. If he shocks everyone and returns by the playoffs, it creates the most credible Warriors threat outside of Houston. If he doesn't return and the relationship doesn't improve, the rest of the league enters the offseason with a MVP-caliber superstar who might be more available than anyone would've ever imagined.
    The bolded (by me) passage would seem to be the bottom line.

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    Here is the verbatim SI report:



    The bolded (by me) passage would seem to be the bottom line.
    Nice find

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    Jabari (his opinion) expects Kawhi back, says pay attention to first week of March-Mid March at latest


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    Jabari (his opinion) expects Kawhi back, says pay attention to first week of March-Mid March at latest

    To think I keep looking down expecting to see the sky, when in fact it’s right where it’s supposed to be.

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    Jabari (his opinion) expects Kawhi back, says pay attention to first week of March-Mid March at latest

    Here’s to hoping he’s right!

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    Good writeup by Mike Finger, tbh.


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    Good writeup by Jeff, tbh.

    The article is by Mike Finger, not Jeff McDonald.

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    The article is by Mike Finger, not Jeff McDonald.
    Whoops. FIFY.

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    Here’s to hoping he’s right!
    Yes!

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    The only people questioning his heart and dedication are the fans, media and all the Nancies around here.

    I'm sure the Spurs have been nothing short of supportive with his decision, even if it does put them in a tough spot.

    Everyone wanted the Spurs to come out and say SOMETHING, and now it's all being twisted around to suit personal agendas.
    Youre dumb.

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    Thanks for your input.

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    Thanks for your input.
    Had the spurs or kl said something there would be no drama. Silly you fail to see that

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