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If we all understood, it would be a different world.
I hope whatever has occurred isn’t irredeemable or life altering beyond repair.
Tragic tbh.
Irrespective of what news transpires in the short term, the SA media can’t allow the Spurs FO to duck and weave their way out of this one in perpetuity.
When you sign multi-million dollar contracts in any capacity, you don’t get the luxury of hiding behind vacuous statements long term…
If we all understood, it would be a different world.
Larry Sanders
Also, Royce White (like another poster mentioned) got dropped by the Rockets due in part to mental health issues/being a distraction.
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God i hope some bull doesn't happen with Sochan. Unlike Walmart Luka and Primo, hes a legit talent from day one.
Or Could just be Pop power tripping in his twilight and no one in the org able to take the keys away from him.
If it was like the old rumors of cutting Stephen Jackson because he wouldn't say that someone else was better him.
Hope it's not a Pop-tripping scenario
I'm actually thinking this is on one of the worst case scenarios.
Simply because the Spurs FO is smart. They KNOW that not announcing anything will lead to a ton of speculation and most of it won't be good.
They made this decision knowing the speculation wouldn't be as damaging as the actual facts of what's happening.
I would guess it's lilely a very serious issue related to crime.
The only thing they might not announce mental health wise is if he made a suicide attempt. But this feels wrong for them to release him so abruptly if that were the case.
My money is on a very dire situation here. This doesn't seem to scan as an organization looking out for their player. They're washing their hands of him, suddenly and publicly. I doubt pop would do that if it were a mental breakdown.
Long time no see. Man you playing Persona 5 Royal on PC? runs 4k60 even on a 1650 Super.
You don't waive a guy for being suicidal, and if you do, you sure as don't do it abruptly with no comment an hour before tipoff like they did today.
Primo's statement, in combination with how the Spurs handled everything, reads to me like him trying to get out ahead of something.
That doesn’t jive with the press release if it’s really bad why make the statement they made
Absolutely this imo.
You forgot Primo actually isn’t that good.What we know:
-Primo was highly thought of behind the scenes
-Primo was literally the team's poster boy over the summer. He was trotted out by RC Buford at every opportunity
-The Spurs picked up Primo's $4+ million option two weeks ago
-Primo and his GF's socials are hidden
-Primo missed the last game with a glue injury. That injury checks out though because the previous game he landed hard
-The only su ious thing about the injury is he wasn't on the injury report the day before the game but then suddenly wasn't able to play in the game. That's not super su ious, though. If his glute was spasming or wouldn't loosen before the game, that's reasonable he wouldn't play and explain why he wasn't on the injury report previously
-Primo didn't play but was at the game and seemed into it and seemed to be acting normal
-RC's quote would be really odd if it turns out to be something legal ... but, then again, RC can be an odd bird and he could have just copy-and-pasted some boilerplate quote from HR
-Pop delayed his talking to the media before the game by about 45 minutes. During that time, Primo was waived. So obviously the final decision was being made during that time
-Pop won't hint at what it was. Sean Elliott didn't know anything. The Spurs are refusing to even pick up the phone
-Primo is regarded as an extremely high character kid who works hard. His high character and natural leadership skills are basically what the Spurs pointed to when justifying their reach of drafting him at 12. He was projected to be a late first round pick -- at best
-Primo comes off as a very, very confident person. Like Kobe-level of confidence. I don't know how that factors in ... but I guess it might be notable
-Primo has had the same girlfriend since before he was drafted. They have a shared TikTok that was updated three days ago. Again, not sure if this is part of the puzzle
-If you're a conspiracy theorist, it might be notable that RC Buford had the Primo quote and not Brian Wright. Wright is the person most responsible for drafting Primo ... but, yeah, Buford is higher on the totem pole in the organization so that again is unlikely to mean anything
-Even people usually in the know have no idea what happened
Shocking stuff, tbh
Removing all evidence of him means something bad.
The Spurs press release read to me like they were trying to get out ahead of something. What are they suppose to say "We're cutting him bc a felony indictment for a serious crime is coming down"?
What's Primos suppose to say? "I haven't been charged with anything and the Spurs haven't said anything but Im likely going to be charged with xyz?"
If it were mental health I don't see them waiving him. Even if he asked to be waived, I don't see it. They would keep him and help him get help or try to trade him.
Yeah you don't waive a guy and want nothing to do with him if he was being suicidal. Spurs would have just shut him down indefinitely and kept it at that.
that statement was at most neutral and you can gain something from that, because they didn't even wish him the best, they just said it was best for the organization
Definitely looks like a perfect game for my steam deck.
Currently building a sim racing rig. pit gets here tomorrow or Monday.
How you been?
I still don't have any confirmation, for the record.
I can only think of one scenario that would make all the pieces of the puzzle fit. But I'm not going to go on record with the speculation because that's not something I'd want to put out there and be wrong about.
Hopefully there's an scenario that I haven't thought of that ends positively for both the Spurs and Josh.
I still don't have any confirmation, for the record.
I can only think of one scenario that would make all the pieces of the puzzle fit. But I'm not going to go on record with the speculation because that's not something I'd want to put out there and be wrong about.
Hopefully there's an scenario that I haven't thought of that ends positively for both the Spurs and Josh.
Nothing can justify this
No way there was a suicidal aspect to this. Waiving him taking away the only support structure he has in a foreign country as a teenager seems like it would be a very dangerous trigger event and people would blame SA if anything did end up happening
wtf this is so random...
So strange, sad and incredibly unfortunate for the Spurs and Primo. One of the most shocking items that I can recall in the NBA,
Primo's statement reads to me like he has done something very serious, as does the Spurs reaction and blurb. Hopefully, I'm wrong.
I hope Primo's life will be improved from working on his mental health.
What bad luck for the Spurs.
A good amount on this forum used to call DeMar, DeMar Depression and he wasn't waived lol and he's clearly been throughout a lot in his life.
It's either a sexual situation or an anger issue situation based on his statement.
Relating directly to his statement:
1. If he claims he was molested as a youth and then perpetrated a similar offense or eas caught with sexual material of a minor, that jives with his statement
2. If he claims he was abused physically as a child and then was caught either threatening or actually harming someone (like his GF) that would also jive with his statement.
Either of those make logical sense based on the new facts from his statement. I still think this somehow or another involves his GF in some way shape or form.
Also depending on the reporting party and to whom it was reported or discovered by, it would make sense for the Spurs to have taken the actions they did even without a police report that so many think is on the horizon.
Pop will be asked about this post-game.
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