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    At least Doug played for Thibbs for a year already. Fournier is just riding pine.
    Doug played 36 games, 9 minutes per game as a rookie #11 pick for Thibbs,who was not thrilled with the pick.

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    I'd love to have Bridges, but Nets are in an awkward position because they owe a bunch of unprotected picks. Rather than suffer the embarrassment of handing over lottery picks to Houston, they want to be compe ive and trading Bridges hurts their ability to do that. We don't know who offered the 4 picks. Is it a team that risks giving up lottery picks? Were they lottery-protected picks? Or are these likely late rounders that have like a 5% chance of becoming an all-star or a player as good as Bridges?

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    Doug played 36 games, 9 minutes per game as a rookie #11 pick for Thibbs,who was not thrilled with the pick.
    so he played almost half that season's games?

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    so he played almost half that season's games?
    Pretty lame PT for a #11 pick, and only 9 minutes per game. That says your coach doesn’t like you, or your game. I think Pop wouldn’t send him back into that situation.

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    Would this squeeze them in the top 6 pick? I rather that TOR pick to convey
    good chance especially when other teams like utah and memphis are refusing to lose
    at the moment

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    If the Spurs trade for Young it needs to wait until the summer. Right now they have the second worst record in the league with a 14% chance at the first pick. If they add Young they'll drop to at least 5th in the lottery standings with 10.5% chance at the first pick. With Toronto looking to blow it up and if the Hawks traded Young to the Spurs decent chance San Antonio could end up 7 in the lottery standings if they got Young right now.

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    Would this squeeze them in the top 6 pick? I rather that TOR pick to convey
    With how trash this draft is wouldn't be the worst thing in the world to roll it over until 2025.

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    Would this squeeze them in the top 6 pick? I rather that TOR pick to convey
    There’s a bigger gap between 6 and 5 than there is between 6 and 11.

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    There’s a bigger gap between 6 and 5 than there is between 6 and 11.
    Who is your top five?

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    Who is your top five?
    The current 5 worst teams will be the worst teams at the end of the regular season.

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    The current 5 worst teams will be the worst teams at the end of the regular season.
    My bad. I thought you were referring to players.

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    I hope to get both picks for the reasons many have said. Also, while this draft is supposed to be weak, and in many ways it is, I think I actually like it better from around 3-12 than I did last year, with some exceptions.

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    Bleacher report is saying that the hawks are looking for two first round picks for Dejounte Murray. It seems like we are in the drivers seat. Just have to determine if it’s worth it. The hawks picks will be good picks. You know who doesn’t have 2 first round picks to give?? The lakers…

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    Bleacher report is saying that the hawks are looking for two first round picks for Dejounte Murray. It seems like we are in the drivers seat. Just have to determine if it’s worth it. The hawks picks will be good picks. You know who doesn’t have 2 first round picks to give?? The lakers…
    the warriors could free up 26 and 28 if they lifted the protections on the pick they owe portland

    knicks have all their first rounders

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    Even though this isn’t the best draft, I’d rather have a 7-8 pick in a meh draft than have TOR keep it, re-tool, and the pick drops into the late teens or 20s in 2025.

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    Raptors got 3 firsts for Siakham, plus a decently price role player in Bruce Brown. Then 2 thrown in youths. And he is a pending free agent that's likely have the Pacers giving up 200mil over 5 years to retain. As I said, 3 to 5 assets for an allstar. Trae Young is clearly worth that.

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    Raptors got 3 firsts for Siakham, plus a decently price role player in Bruce Brown. Then 2 thrown in youths. And he is a pending free agent that's likely have the Pacers giving up 200mil over 5 years to retain. As I said, 3 to 5 assets for an allstar. Trae Young is clearly worth that.
    TWO HWHAT?

    also... one of those guys, lewis, the pelicans gave up a pick to get him off their payroll. he's not an asset. just salary theyre shedding to get under the tax and he's expiring anyway

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    Bleacher report is saying that the hawks are looking for two first round picks for Dejounte Murray. It seems like we are in the drivers seat. Just have to determine if it’s worth it. The hawks picks will be good picks. You know who doesn’t have 2 first round picks to give?? The lakers…
    Especially since if we put the 27 Hawks pick on the table it is worth more to the Hawks than any other pick another team can trade them. Something like the Chicago pick and the Hawks 27 pick could do it. I'd start with the Charlotte pick and go from there.

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    Bleacher report is saying that the hawks are looking for two first round picks for Dejounte Murray. It seems like we are in the drivers seat. Just have to determine if it’s worth it. The hawks picks will be good picks. You know who doesn’t have 2 first round picks to give?? The lakers…
    I'd have an offer on the table right now of the CHI pick + their choice of the TOR pick or SA '27.

    Most I'd be willing to go would be TOR + SA '27, but they'd have to take Graham for sure (It's only ~$2.5MM next year, but it's a $2.5MM I'd rather not have in dead cap) and maybe Branham too. Send me back Patty to go with DJM.

    If they are dumping Capela on us, that definitely changes the calculus.

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    tbh it's kinda funny seeing the perception of our FO front the perspective of other teams' fans

    Kinda feel bad for Hawks fans

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    tbh it's kinda funny seeing the perception of our FO front the perspective of other teams' fans

    Kinda feel bad for Hawks fans
    To be fair, the DJM trade is looking increasingly like a stroke of genius by PAFTO. We all liked the deal at the time, for exactly the things that are coming to fruition right now. PAFTO has earned plenty of criticism, but they deserve their props on this one (or maybe this is just my former Sniffer tendencies showing themselves).

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    Raptors got 3 firsts for Siakham, plus a decently price role player in Bruce Brown. Then 2 thrown in youths. And he is a pending free agent that's likely have the Pacers giving up 200mil over 5 years to retain. As I said, 3 to 5 assets for an allstar. Trae Young is clearly worth that.

    The protections are not yet stated too. And even if unprotected, pacers pick would be not that high for this year. The other lesser of OKC / clippers is not that high too.

    So only the 2026 pick maybe reasonably valuable. But raptors didn't get much

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    at the time we made the murray trade, the value was good, because people expect the hawks to screw things up, and we let that stew for a couple of years. we didnt get picks from them until 3 seasons out

    when we landed wemby, obviously everything was justified and it didnt really matter anymore. and then there was the hilarious possibility being discussed of the spurs just waiting for murray to hit free agency and signing him back. it was peak euphoria

    then murray signed the extension with the hawks, which at the time was pretty objectively a team-friendly decision where he was leaving money on the table, and it seemed like the hawks would at least have a stable floor during the 25-27 window

    but now half a year later, and we're back to those picks being juicy as

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    at the time we made the murray trade, the value was good, because people expect the hawks to screw things up, and we let that stew for a couple of years. we didnt get picks from them until 3 seasons out

    when we landed wemby, obviously everything was justified and it didnt really matter anymore. and then there was the hilarious possibility being discussed of the spurs just waiting for murray to hit free agency and signing him back. it was peak euphoria

    then murray signed the extension with the hawks, which at the time was pretty objectively a team-friendly decision where he was leaving money on the table, and it seemed like the hawks would at least have a stable floor during the 25-27 window

    but now half a year later, and we're back to those picks being juicy as
    Great reminder that the NBA can be unpredictable AF!

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    I'd have an offer on the table right now of the CHI pick + their choice of the TOR pick or SA '27.

    Most I'd be willing to go would be TOR + SA '27, but they'd have to take Graham for sure (It's only ~$2.5MM next year, but it's a $2.5MM I'd rather not have in dead cap) and maybe Branham too. Send me back Patty to go with DJM.

    If they are dumping Capela on us, that definitely changes the calculus.
    If they are dumping Capela on us, what are you thinking then? I've got Charlotte + Chicago 1st and 2nd in '25. (instead of your TOR + SA '27). So we eat 22 extra million to keep a decent first. Doubt Atlanta does this, but technically it is the 2 firsts they are clamoring for, plus they save 45 mil on the books next season.

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