Enemy of the people: Elon Musk

[Winehole23]

can't believe this patriotic tech bro got pushed off the team

“‘Just for the record, I was racist before it was cool,’ [Elez’s X account: @nullllptr] posted in July.

[TSA]

After we spent trillions completely destroying their country for a baldfaced lie?

We should probably be doing more tbh.

Thanks for bringing this up.

Dodge #2

I didn't know this is what my tax dollars were going to. I do not think it is a good use of my tax dollars.

Did you know this is what your tax dollars are going to? Do you think it is a good use of your tax dollars?

You have other grants pending awaiting comment. You said we'd need to do this grant by grant, was that a lie? Are you going to keep dodging them?

[ChumpDumper]

Dodge #2

I didn't know this is what my tax dollars were going to. I do not think it is a good use of my tax dollars.

Did you know this is what your tax dollars are going to? Do you think it is a good use of your tax dollars?

You have other grants pending awaiting comment. You said we'd need to do this grant by grant, was that a lie? Are you going to keep dodging them?

Nah. I've already said all I need to. This covers everything:

There is waste in the federal government and USAID in particular.

USAID functions are now under State and your party is in control of the budget.

Your problem is solved, is it not?

[TSA]

You never know how to not move the goalposts. Sure it's a big deal because it came from USAID and you guys said she never touched it.

Back to the main point:

If USAID is a waste, great I'm fine with getting rid of it. I'm not fine with a radical partisan right wing group being the ones to determine what's waste and what's not.

dO yOu unDerStanD

I didn't move any goalposts, you really need to think before you post.

I never said she never touched it and I never said every grant from USAID was a waste. Are you re ed or being purposely disingenuous?

[TSA]

Nah. I've already said all I need to. This covers everything:

There is waste in the federal government and USAID in particular.

USAID functions are now under State and your party is in control of the budget.

Your problem is solved, is it not?

From calling everything bull to folding in record time

[ChumpDumper]

From calling everything bull to folding in record time

Your tsunami of bull is just that and I explained it to you.

I asked you if your claimed attempt to reform is worth your tsunami of bull .

You folded.

It's absolutely worth your tsunami of bull . Your tsunami of bull is what you actually want.

You want to be outraged about money that's already gone and make lists about things that make you angry like educational programs for kids whose lives we have ruined several times over.

That's fine for you.

[ChumpDumper]

Dodge #2

I didn't know this is what my tax dollars were going to. I do not think it is a good use of my tax dollars.

Did you know this is what your tax dollars are going to? Do you think it is a good use of your tax dollars?

You have other grants pending awaiting comment. You said we'd need to do this grant by grant, was that a lie? Are you going to keep dodging them?

We would have to do every grant ever made by USAID.

You're free to show me your list from 60+ years.

No cherry picking.

[TSA]

We would have to do every grant ever made by USAID.

You're free to show me your list from 60+ years.

No cherry picking.

Dodge #3

Fold #2

[ChumpDumper]

Dodge #3

Fold #2

These are my terms and my rules.

Do you not like when they are dictated to you?

lol

[Winehole23]

Does anyone here know anything about Dave Troy?

I had never heard of him. Troy puts forth a strong version of the theory that the main beneficiary of the Musk/Trump coup is El0n

I instinctively disagree that El0n has taken control of the US government 100%, trump could get rid of him with a handwave and a few words to the right person.

I do wonder in passing whether El0n possesses for himself re: the US government's data. Has anyone even asked him about data retention and so forth related to DOGE?

Being the financial controller and HR of the US government at the same time is an awesome responsibility.

[Winehole23]

Dave Troy sounds kooky as to me, but so is what El0n is doing

there's nothing comparable in my living memory

trump 2.0 is the most radical government any of us have ever seen

The OPM takeover raises serious legal and ethical concerns, including but not limited to:

● Violations of the E-Government Act of 2002: This law requires federal agencies to conduct Privacy Impact Assessments before handling sensitive personal information. The unauthorized takeover of federal employee data without oversight cons utes a clear violation.
● Breach of the Hatch Act: Federal employees and contractors are prohibited from engaging in political activities while performing government duties. Reports suggest that Musk’s appointees have been promoting partisan agendas while restructuring OPM.
● Improper Federal Employment Practices: The movement of Musk allies into critical OPM positions, including individuals without proper federal hiring credentials, raises concerns about the Federal Vacancies Reform Act and ethical hiring practices.

https://america2.news/content/files/...ary-5-2025.pdf

[Yonivore]

Dave Troy sounds kooky as to me, but so is what El0n is doing

there's nothing comparable in my living memory

trump 2.0 is the most radical government any of us have ever seen

I'll agree with you there.

Now, I've got to understand Public Law 107-347 (E-Government Act of 2002) all 72 pages. Are there exceptions to the "privacy impact assessment?" What cons utes "unauthorized takeover?" Thanks for the reading assignment Winehole.

As for violations of the Hatch act, "reports suggest" isn't going to be very convincing.

I'll also have to brush up on the Federal Vacancies Reform Act of 1998 (also long as ). What "Musk allies?" What are the "proper federal hiring credentials" mentioned?

Inquiring minds want to know.

, can't anyone in Congress write something shorter than the U. S. Consitution?

[Winehole23]

https://www.404media.co/doge-employe...bject-to-foia/

[Blake]

I didn't move any goalposts, you really need to think before you post.

I never said she never touched it and I never said every grant from USAID was a waste. Are you re ed or being purposely disingenuous?

CD called out Ivanka. Yoni said she never touched it, you high fived him and called CD a liar. It's right here for you to go back and look at, pizza.

[Yonivore]

https://www.404media.co/doge-employe...bject-to-foia/

I saw that in the context of another poster (maybe you) claiming they were trying to avoid FOIA rules.

After reading the article, I don't come away with the same idea. I've only got access to the first couple of paragraphs, the rest is behind a subscription wall. Other than the le suggesting the reason, the only statement I read suggest it is to conform to a general counsel's directive.

“Good morning, everyone! As a reminder, please refrain from using Slack at the moment while our various general counsels figure out the best way to handle the records migration to our new EOP [Executive Office of the President] component,” a message seen by 404 Media reads. “Will update as soon as we have more information!”

...

“I spoke to the DOGE team about Slack. Because of the USDS split from OMB, OMB is asking us to stop generating new slack messages starting now,” the message says. “We expect this to be a temporary pause, and we expect to continue having access to historical Slack material. We may have intermittent access as we go through this system transition so continue to use good data hygiene and backup any critical material. We will keep you updated.

The next paragraph, which disappears behind the subscription wall starts out,

The messages indicate that, under Elon Musk’s leadership, DOGE is actively taking steps to make sure its communications and records are not subject to the Freedom of Information Act, a records transparency law commonly used by journalists and lawyers to hold government accountable. Instead, DOGE is asserting that rather than reporting up through the Office of Management and Budget as the United States Digital Service did for years, it is reporting through the Executive Office of the President and to White House Chief of Staff Susie Wiles. Under OMB, it was generally subject to FOIA. Under the White House Chief of Staff, records it creates are generally not subject to FOIA.

If there's more, I'd be interested if it provide any more concrete proof this is the reason for the change other than a bureaucratic change. After all, moving DOGE out from under an agency they're auditing, makes sense.

Instead of supposing the reason, I'd be curious to know why 404 Media didn't just come out and ask. It appears they came across message 404 Media decided to interpret in the most conspiracy way possible.

All that said, I've yet to see an action with which I disagree. The federal government appears to finally be under an administrative bent on bring them to heel, exposing their excesses, and weeding out corruption. I'm for that.

[Blake]

I saw that in the context of another poster (maybe you) claiming they were trying to avoid FOIA rules.

After reading the article, I don't come away with the same idea. I've only got access to the first couple of paragraphs, the rest is behind a subscription wall. Other than the le suggesting the reason, the only statement I read suggest it is to conform to a general counsel's directive.


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The next paragraph, which disappears behind the subscription wall starts out,



If there's more, I'd be interested if it provide any more concrete proof this is the reason for the change other than a bureaucratic change. After all, moving DOGE out from under an agency they're auditing, makes sense.

Instead of supposing the reason, I'd be curious to know why 404 Media didn't just come out and ask. It appears they came across message 404 Media decided to interpret in the most conspiracy way possible.

All that said, I've yet to see an action with which I disagree. The federal government appears to finally be under an administrative bent on bring them to heel, exposing their excesses, and weeding out corruption. I'm for that.

Lol "yet to see an action which you disagree"
Lol "weeding out corruption"

Trump is the same guy who ripped people off with his Trump University.

You guys are gullible tools.

[ChumpDumper]

acting like DOGE is just going to answer questions about oversight and rules.

Elon is on Twitter. Just ask him yourself!

[Blake]

acting like DOGE is just going to answer questions about oversight and rules.

Is there even any oversight on the DOGE budget? If DOGE was honest they would DOGE themselves.

[ChumpDumper]

Is there even any oversight on the DOGE budget? If DOGE was honest they would DOGE themselves.

tRAnsPaREncY!

[Yonivore]

curious if true, this is from Dave Levitan's social media account, haven't been able to find corroboration online

El0n continues to salt federal agencies with his own cronies

According to everything I've found, Ann Dunkin is still CIO. Her LinkIn says she still there.

Maybe we should track this lady down and ask.

[ChumpDumper]

According to everything I've found, Ann Dunkin is still CIO. Her LinkIn says she still there.

Maybe we should track this lady down and ask.

You're like 3 months our of date.

Sad.

[Yonivore]

This should be enough for every American to want complete transparency in where their tax dollars are going.

Biden Admin Filled Terrorist Coffers With Over $1,300,000,000 Before Trump Took Wrecking Ball To Foreign Aid

You're never going to get me to agree that what is happening to all the agencies that have such huge budgets is wrong. I hope every corrupt bureaucrat is found and fired. Those that aided and abetted terrorist organizations should be tried for treason.

[ChumpDumper]

your link goes to ChatGPT

I'm just going to say you're pimping a source that full of again like you did with Politico and the BBC.

[Blake]

This should be enough for every American to want complete transparency in where their tax dollars are going.

Biden Admin Filled Terrorist Coffers With Over $1,300,000,000 Before Trump Took Wrecking Ball To Foreign Aid

You're never going to get me to agree that what is happening to all the agencies that have such huge budgets is wrong. I hope every corrupt bureaucrat is found and fired. Those that aided and abetted terrorist organizations should be tried for treason.

Of course people want transparency. That's what oversight committees are supposed to do. Not a businessman with built in conflicts of interest.

[ChumpDumper]

I want transparency for yoni's ChatGPT request.

This guy will believe anything.