Spurs To Retire Avery Johnson's Number 6

[timvp]

Reality huh? Its not as if were making posts consisting of 'Avery is the suxxorz Mavs traitor and i wish he would die.'

Were discussing the merits of Johnson and youre starting to get snippy.

I'm not getting snippy at all. I apologize if I have offended you but I was just messin' around. You and whottt are not a match ... my apologies.

I'm used to AJ not getting credit. If you read the thread, I concede he wasn't that great of a basketball player. He's not as inept as some have made him out to be but he surely wasn't an All-Star.

He had his moments. He lit up the best trio of point guards ever assembled. He played well at various point throughout his Spurs career.

But more importantly, he helped instill a championship fiber into this franchise that it needed. Without a player like AJ (who then brough in Mario), I'm not convinced that the Spurs would have ever gotten over the hurdle that currently blocks the Mavs and Suns from being champions. Who on the Mavs or Suns dies as much for a championship as AJ did?

All AJ ever wanted was a championship. That was his driving force. I respect that immensely and no matter how much anyone craps on his game or talks about how bad he was, you can never take that away from him. You can also never take away the gra ude I have for AJ helping make this franchise a winner.

All I ever ask out of a player is to do whatever it takes to win a championship. Even AJ haters have to admit that all AJ ever wanted to do was win.

AJ had no natural talent but wanted to lead a team to championship. He did it. End of story.

[ShoogarBear]

Sure he does...TimVP already said he used to be a MavFan,

Ah, so that explains his natural alliance with you.

I like all Dallas teams.

[whottt]

Clueless idiot? You are the only person to say that.

Handing out a jersey you want to retire is pure genius...and looking at the 2-1 margin against AJ's jersey retirement...I'd say it was a masterful job of string pulling on Pop's part.

So not only did Don Harris strong arm Pop into doing something he didn't want to do, Pop came out looking like a clueless idiot. Got it.

He didn't strong arm him into doing it...it was a coup. A theft...

I guess Pop hasn't hit enough three-pointers either . . .

Well...AJ does have him beat there, gotta admit...by one.

Come to think of it...AJ's got me and my grandma beat...by one.....in 19 years....playing with David Robinson...and Tim Duncan....


Props

[FuzzyLumpkins]

I'm not getting snippy at all. I apologize if I have offended you but I was just messin' around. You and whottt are not a match ... my apologies.

I'm used to AJ not getting credit. If you read the thread, I concede he wasn't that great of a basketball player. He's not as inept as some have made him out to be but he surely wasn't an All-Star.

He had his moments. He lit up the best trio of point guards ever assembled. He played well at various point throughout his Spurs career.

But more importantly, he helped instill a championship fiber into this franchise that it needed. Without a player like AJ (who then brough in Mario), I'm not convinced that the Spurs would have ever gotten over the hurdle that currently blocks the Mavs and Suns from being champions. Who on the Mavs or Suns dies as much for a championship as AJ did?

All AJ ever wanted was a championship. That was his driving force. I respect that immensely and no matter how much anyone craps on his game or talks about how bad he was, you can never take that away from him. You can also never take away the gra ude I have for AJ helping make this franchise a winner.

All I ever ask out of a player is to do whatever it takes to win a championship. Even AJ haters have to admit that all AJ ever wanted to do was win.

AJ had no natural talent but wanted to lead a team to championship. He did it. End of story.

Fair enough. I find it to be sentimental tripe but thats just me. And again im not offended, i love arguing.

[whottt]

Ah, so that explains his natural alliance with you.

As opposed to Leonard...

[whottt]

He had his moments. He lit up the best trio of point guards ever assembled.

Good lord the BS just got deep in here...

Who on the Mavs or Suns dies as much for a championship as AJ did?

Mark Cuban.

All AJ ever wanted was a championship. That was his driving force. I respect that immensely and no matter how much anyone craps on his game or talks about how bad he was, you can never take that away from him.

All I want is a championship too...I'm y and bossy...I can't shoot, and I've made even fewer playoff threes than AJ...retire my jersey.


I don't see why you're so bitter anyway...he's getting his jersey retired.

[timvp]

Good lord the BS just got deep in here...

Name me a better trio of point guards on the same team than Jason Kidd, Steve Nash and Kevin Johnson. AJ had a career high on their azzes in the deciding game.

Apology Accepted.

Mark Cuban.

Cuban? Is that your feminine tendencies coming out again?

@ whottt pulling the Cuban card in an argument. His Dallas love is showing again.

All I want is a championship too...I'm y and bossy...I can't shoot, and I've made even fewer playoff threes than AJ...retire my jersey.

I don't see why you're so bitter anyway...he's getting his jersey retired.

How am I bitter? I'll be the happiest fan in the arena. I'm counting down the days. And you know what, I'll take whottt to the game so he can see it first hand.

Then we can bet on how many times everyone says that AJ was a huge part of the 1999 championship. Well, scratch that, whenever I bet with you regarding AJ, you end up reneging anyways. Might as well change your screen name to welchhh.

[atxrocker]

lol @ the whottt/timvp dispute going on. thanks for the laughs, guys

[whottt]

So then would you call DRob a great leader?

Hmmmm....DRob is a fantastic leader, natural...on being a better human being. Winning a championship at all costs...not so much.


IF he was AJ would have never been his PG.

[timvp]

*cue whottt mixing in Dancing With The Stars into his next take*

[whottt]

Name me a better trio of point guards on the same team than Jason Kidd, Steve Nash and Kevin Johnson. AJ had a career high on their azzes in the deciding game.

Apology Accepted.

Jordan Pippen and whoever the other guard on their teams were.
Thomas Dumars and whoever the other guards on their teams were.


And AJ having a career high on their azzes qualifies as lit up for him and a ty half for the guys he was lighting up.


KJ was done, Nash hadn't begun, and Kidd was the only guy in his prime at that time...he's also a ty man on man defender against quicker/smaller guards...you want to see him lit up? Look at the numbers Steve Nash has put up on his azz.


You aren't seriously attempting to claim that was actually the greatest guard rotation ever assembled...in deed, at that time?


Freaking Kobe, me and you is a better guard rotation based on their playing levels at that time.


And it wasn't a good defensive rotaion...ever.

John Stockton by himself was better than that guard rotation...

Cuban? Is that your feminine tendencies coming out again?

@ whottt pulling the Cuban card in an argument. His Dallas love is showing again.

Yeah...pales in comparison to AJ's Dallas love though...

Then we can bet on how many times everyone says that AJ was a huge part of the 1999 championship. Well, scratch that, whenever I bet with you regarding AJ, you end up reneging anyways. Might as well change your screen name to welchhh.

Lame...you never produced a contract offer. You also attempted to claim you won that bet based on an erroneous report at least once.

[whottt]

*cue whottt mixing in Dancing With The Stars into his next take*

What's wrong with Dancing with the Stars?


Go tell Emmitt he's a little fruity...

[timvp]

Jordan Pippen and whoever the other guard on their teams were.
Thomas Dumars and whoever the other guards on their teams were.

Jordan, Pippen and Dumars were point guards?

And AJ having a career high on their azzes qualifies as lit up for him and a ty half for the guys he was lighting up.

Yeah, 30 points, 7 assists, 11-for-15 from the field is a sh!tty half for those guys.

Way to stick to reality.

Yeah...pales in comparison to AJ's Dallas love though...

"I root for all Dallas teams." -- whottt

Lame...you never produced a contract offer. You also attempted to claim you won that bet based on an erroneous report at least once.

How many times did you want it reported? You claimed I didn't win the bet because I couldn't produce the actual contract offer.

Maybe you can change your screen name to welch via technicalittty.

[timvp]

What's wrong with Dancing with the Stars?

No response needed.

[whottt]

Jordan, Pippen and Dumars were point guards?

Avery Johnson:
assists per game: 5.5

Michael Jordan:
assists per game: 5.3

Scottie Pippen:
assists per game: 5.2

Yeah, 30 points, 7 assists, 11-for-15 from the field is a sh!tty half for those guys.

Way to stick to reality.

Ok...so it was a good half for those guys.

"I root for all Dallas teams." -- whottt

I coach the Dallas Mavericks - Avery Johnson

How many times did you want it reported? You claimed I didn't win the bet because I couldn't produce the actual contract offer.

Right...I want you to prove the Spurs offered AJ that position...and more than it was just discussed..

Maybe you can change your screen name to welch via technicalittty.

I will...if you change your name to, I take that Dallas quote out of context continually shamelessly, and I didn't read the original conditions of the bet.

[timvp]

Avery Johnson:
assists per game: 5.5

Michael Jordan:
assists per game: 5.3

Scottie Pippen:
assists per game: 5.2

Thanks for proving my point.

Right...I want you to prove the Spurs offered AJ that position...and more than it was just discussed..

Pop told him to come end his career as a player/coach for the Spurs. It was reported by Pop errrrrrrr the local print media.

What more do you want?

I will...if you change your name to, I take that Dallas quote out of context continually shamelessly, and I didn't read the original conditions of the bet.

Are you or are you not a fan of multiple Dallas based teams? Did you or did you not say you like the Dallas Rangers more than the Spurs?

You've previously admitted I won that bet. Are you you now welching on your welch?

[T Park]

Nothing needs to be said other than FWD's and TIMVP's takes.

Those posts say it all.

[jmrodjr]

Date has been set, I just read this on the Dallas Morning News Website

http://www.dallasnews.com/sharedcontent/dws/spt/basketball/mavs/stories/100307dnspomavscamp.376a3c3.html[/URL]

Spotlight on: Avery Johnson
Avery Johnson's No. 6 is headed to the rafters – in San Antonio. The Mavericks coach was told during the summer that his jersey number would be retired by the Spurs. It is scheduled to happen Dec. 22 at the Spurs' home game against the LA Clippers. "We're not having it when the Mavericks play them," Johnson said. Spurs coach Gregg Popovich "and I agreed to that." Johnson said it's the sort of honor he never expected. "That's a really special deal," he said. "I don't think I ever would have thought when I started playing in the NBA that I'd ever get my jersey retired. That's going to be a special night for my family and all the people that invested in me." When news filtered to Mavs players, the response was universal applause. "Obviously, he wasn't a highly drafted guy," Devin Harris said. "He had to work his way up to the NBA. For a player like that to have his number retired shows what kind of player he was and, obviously, what kind of coach he is."

[SenorSpur]

Classic...


Spurs would have given their left nut to be rid of AJ at the time this fluff/spin was written..


Don't worry Blaze...we'll protect your family from them.

Don't know how you found it, but thanks for posting.

[SenorSpur]

Date has been set, I just read this on the Dallas Morning News Website

http://www.dallasnews.com/sharedcontent/dws/spt/basketball/mavs/stories/100307dnspomavscamp.376a3c3.html[/URL]

Spotlight on: Avery Johnson
Avery Johnson's No. 6 is headed to the rafters – in San Antonio. The Mavericks coach was told during the summer that his jersey number would be retired by the Spurs. It is scheduled to happen Dec. 22 at the Spurs' home game against the LA Clippers. "We're not having it when the Mavericks play them," Johnson said. Spurs coach Gregg Popovich "and I agreed to that." Johnson said it's the sort of honor he never expected. "That's a really special deal," he said. "I don't think I ever would have thought when I started playing in the NBA that I'd ever get my jersey retired. That's going to be a special night for my family and all the people that invested in me." When news filtered to Mavs players, the response was universal applause. "Obviously, he wasn't a highly drafted guy," Devin Harris said. "He had to work his way up to the NBA. For a player like that to have his number retired shows what kind of player he was and, obviously, what kind of coach he is."

Wonder why the they don't simply do the ceremony when the Mavs come to town? What's the point in making the guy come in for an extra trip? It's not like it's going to give the Mavs some sort of psychological
edge.

[Fabbs]

Is there a link with the final votes?
b. tell me what the final tally was.
Cause the link died.

[Oh, Gee!!]

Wonder why the they don't simply do the ceremony when the Mavs come to town? What's the point in making the guy come in for an extra trip? It's not like it's going to give the Mavs some sort of psychological
edge.

Sounds like AJ wanted it that way.

[smeagol]

He was dumped for an 18 year old french kid from another country who had never played nba ball.

Am I the only one who found this redundantly funny?

[Whisky Dog]

Nothing needs to be said other than FWD's and TIMVP's takes.

Those posts say it all.

Wow, what a surprise

[Whisky Dog]

I'm not being like anything. I'm just trying to interject some reality to the AJ bashfest you and whottt are having.

If you have a problem with AJ's jersey being retired, you have a problem with Pop, Peter Holt, David Robinson, timvp, Sean Elliott, Mario Elie, the 1999 championship, gumbo and the current offense the Spurs run.

What does any of that stuff have to do with AJ's jersey being retired? That makes no sense.