If Udoka was a couple inches taller we could counter with small ball (ironic seeing how it's now going extinct). I mean, if we got no defensive big man.
There are still some small ball remnants out there but overall I'd say the ability to be able to guard against small ball just get a whole lot less important over the last week. The Lakers version of small ball with Odom at PF was hard for the Spurs to guard, as well.Is Pop doing this?
WTF does this mean for Udoka?
No more small ball. They pretty much got him for the reason of small ball did they not?
I just hope Pop doesn't think the Spurs should become the small ball team . . .
Nash would have to feed Shaq the ball with a baby bottle for him to be effective. Then everyone elses game goes down. Does Shaq honestly demand a constant double team every possesion any more? No. If you've seen Heat games players are not afraid of guarding him 1 on 1 anymore. Also, wasn't Shaq motivated in Miami too? As I said, people are overthinking this and Shaq will not pan out and be a bust. BOOK IT.
This really really plays into Shaq being motivated due to 1 thing.
Ego.
If he takes the Suns to the Finals and wins, this would put him over in people's minds over Wilt and Russel due to taking 3 different teams to rings, 1 obscure new one, and 1 who was sitting dead and never had a chance.
Another reason for Shaq to be motivated. Stroke the ego...
I'm against this trade only because the Spurs completely owned the Suns, and Phoenix couldn't have possibly been an easier matchup.
Still, O'Neal's 36, fat, lazy, and done. This last year and a half has been such a downward spiral for Shaq that I'm not that concerned with this deal. If Parker is healthy, he'll murder O'Neal on the pick and roll. If Tony's not healthy, it doesn't matter because the Spurs aren't getting through Dallas, Detroit, or Boston without him.
I want to see Duncan send Shaq's fat ass off into retirement, and I've been wanting a rematch for 4 years now.
You don't think Pop is excited to going back to bruiser big man basketball again?I just hope Pop doesn't think the Spurs should become the small ball team
RABID!!
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Right on
I think Shaq clearly sees Tim Duncan as his main career rival(and I'm sure Duncan feels the same)...I don't think there's any doubt about it that he wants to break the tie with Duncan.
What pisses me off is that I could have used the Heat missing the playoffs this season in Drob VS Shaq arguments for evermore....
Hollinger also had the Spurs pegged as the champs last year when everyone was fellating Dallas and Phoenix for their dominant regular season win totals.
And yeah, with Hollinger against this trade, that is another reason to be worried.
I can guarantee you that Pop is somewhere getting drunk off his azz and pissed off that Shaq became relevant again. Going against Shaq is a nightmare for everyone involved. Even this version of Shaq.
Fans can laugh at this trade but no one else in the Western Conference will think it's very funny.
Busy thread tonight! Just saw the news on Yahoo, sounds like a done deal...
[QUOTE]AnYou being concerned made me pase.d yeah, with Hollinger against this trade, that is another reason to be worried
Hollinger being against it made me throw up in my mouth a little.
Yeah he got lucky.Hollinger also had the Spurs pegged as the champs last year when everyone was fellating Dallas and Phoenix for their dominant regular season win totals.
I hope you guys are right and that Shaq is truly done...
I see him being unmotivated during the regular season(and he was this way even with the LakerS)...
I see him not getting the ball as much.
I see him getting older...
What I don't see, is him being a joke, especially when added to a team that has Steve Nash and Amare Stoudemire on it.
“If we don’t see anything we think will help us, we won’t do it,” Popovich said, “But I’m not prepared to say, like I did last year at this point, there will be no trade.”
Google 24 whine bars in DC and get a webcam for that place and you'll see a trenchcoated sunglassed gray haired man barking out "MORE SHIRAZ YOU BAS S"I can guarantee you that Pop is somewhere getting drunk off his azz and pissed off that Shaq became relevant again
“If we don’t see anything we think will help us, we won’t do it,” Popovich said, “But I’m not prepared to say, like I did last year at this point, there will be no trade.”
Pop might make a trade.
Or he might not.
in pop...
I bet Pop is happy, the Soviet Union is back up and running.
Yeah, it's hard for me to call a bigman done when he had Jason Williams and Dr. Quinn as his point guards.
Shaq is going to get more easy looks in his first week with Nash than he had gotten in the last year with the Heat.
I like that the teams are adjusting to account for Duncan's Spurs. In 2007, some of the wins and matches were very underwhelming. Even the Suns, as much as they gave a hard fight, we still had the edge even in that series...Too bad that fact got lost amongst the Horry controversy...which gave the Suns fans (And Suns themselves) an excuse for their denial that they can't beat us without a post-presence.
Hopefully, we'll have a little luck in our favor, mixed in with Spurs Basketball, to really earn a repeat...I really don't know how this season will pan out.
No offense, guys, but the Spurs were the beneficiaries of some questionable officiating throughout the Phoenix series. Are the Spurs a better team? Probably. But I don't necessarily think they beat the Suns, on a legitimately even playing field.
For the Western playoff teams, I wouldn't be that worried though. Shaq cannot turn his game on when playoff time comes, anymore. He's injured, half the time, anyway.
If the Spurs meet the Suns in the PO's, Spurs will sweep them. I'm willing to bet pink status on this for 3 months.
But one thing is for sure PO Shaq > PO Marion, because a PO Marion is a cardboard cut out.
Shaq has no lift whatsoever anymore. He's a s of his former self. I get that Phoenix had to do something with Marion's sorry ass, but I don't see where this guy's going to help. O'Neal has never played defense, and now he couldn't even if he wanted to. The motivation may be there, but he's shot physically. He's at best 1/5 of the player he was when he was winning les in LA.
This reminds me of the Rockets getting Barkley back in the day, once he was way past his prime and could only shoot threes and hold the ball for 10-15 seconds in the post.
The sick athleticism that made Shaq such a force from 93-04 is gone, and it ain't coming back.
WTF?!?!!?No offense, guys, but the Spurs were the beneficiaries of some questionable officiating throughout the Phoenix series. Are the Spurs a better team? Probably. But I don't necessarily think they beat the Suns, on a legitimately even playing field.
Yeah that makes sense.haq has no lift whatsoever anymore. He's a s of his former self. I get that Phoenix had to do something with Marion's sorry ass, but I don't see where this guy's going to help. O'Neal has never played defense, and now he couldn't even if he wanted to. The motivation may be there, but he's shot physically. He's at best 1/4 of the player he was when he was winning les in LA.
Unfortunately, like they said, he might have looked like that due to non motivation and might look better now revived with the Suns.
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