Spurs trade ideas

[TD 21]

I'm not sure CJ is worth two firsts. My idea was CJ and 26 or 27 for KJ and the 14th pick. Spurs would essentially be trading back 12 or 13 spots, still getting a first, and swapping out a ill-fitting player for a better option. Rebounding would be a concern, but I'm not as worried about defense.

He isn't (not "good" ones at least, or he'd have been traded at the deadline), but my point is, I don't think they've went from that to settling for a worse Johnson and trading up 12-13 spots, when as I said, they're not far off as is with 19 and between that 26 and 27, can likely trade into that range if they want.

Highly doubt there’s interest here and feels like pure speculation, but posting nevertheless. Think I’d throw up if we traded for Jaylen Brown tbh

Spurs supposedly had interest years ago and he seems their type, but he's a 3/2 wing (not the 4/3 type they need), is overrated, has a bloated contract, relatively poor feel and is athletically reliant, mediocre shooting and going on 29.

If I were the Celtics, I'd offer him for 2, Vassell, Barnes, salary filler (Branham/Wesley), the '28 swap rights extinguished and another 1st and if I were the Spurs, I wouldn't even consider it.

[RC_Drunkford]

The thing with Vassell is that the Spurs are forced to trade him if they want KD. Otherwise you trade Keldon, Barnes, Wesley and Branham for him and have nothing else left to trade except for Sochan, when you still need a back up C and starting forward next to KD.

Besides that you‘d also only have about 15 million in cap room left before you cross the taxline, to fill out the roster which means you can’t even use the full MLE to sign somebody else. So I don't really see an avenue to keep Devin if we trade for KD, unless we want to bring in 3 rookies and 4 players on minimum deals.

[exstatic]

The thing with Vassell is that the Spurs are forced to trade him if they want KD. Otherwise you trade Keldon, Barnes, Wesley and Branham for him and have nothing else left to trade except for Sochan, when you still need a back up C and starting forward next to KD.

Besides that you‘d also only have about 15 million in cap room left before you cross the taxline, to fill out the roster which means you can’t even use the full MLE to sign somebody else. So I don't really see an avenue to keep Devin if we trade for KD, unless we want to bring in 3 rookies and 4 players on minimum deals.

At that point you need most of a roster, having traded four of your 10 players under contract for one player.

[sfernald]

At that point you need most of a roster, having traded four of your 10 players under contract for one player.

I mean we are talking about keldon, Wesley and Branham so it’s not the worst idea right?

[baseline bum]

He isn't (not "good" ones at least, or he'd have been traded at the deadline), but my point is, I don't think they've went from that to settling for a worse Johnson and trading up 12-13 spots, when as I said, they're not far off as is with 19 and between that 26 and 27, can likely trade into that range if they want.




Spurs supposedly had interest years ago and he seems their type, but he's a 3/2 wing (not the 4/3 type they need), is overrated, has a bloated contract, relatively poor feel and is athletically reliant, mediocre shooting and going on 29.

If I were the Celtics, I'd offer him for 2, Vassell, Barnes, salary filler (Branham/Wesley), the '28 swap rights extinguished and another 1st and if I were the Spurs, I wouldn't even consider it.

On top of his ridiculous contract for a mid ass player he's also about to have meniscus surgery. I wouldn't trade Branham and Wesley for him. I wouldn't even trade Bonner and Blair for him. He's a highly negative value contract at four more years of vet 35% supermax. He's nearly as toxic as Beal.

[baseline bum]

Highly doubt there’s interest here and feels like pure speculation, but posting nevertheless. Think I’d throw up if we traded for Jaylen Brown tbh

Don't know why the Spurs would ever swoop in to save the Celtics from their up. Boston got their le out of it but he adds nothing but negative value to the Spurs.

[exstatic]

I mean we are talking about keldon, Wesley and Branham so it’s not the worst idea right?

You have to add 7 players with two exceptions. So, five players off the waiver wire? Wesley and Branham aren’t the cream of the crop, but they’re cheap, and they know the plays and the players.

[Ice009]

I was interested in Jaylen Brown back in the Kawhi days, but no-way do I want him now at his current contract. What are these guys smoking?

[mystargtr34]

Jaylen Brown is 30 next year, with heavy mileage, taking on that contract and giving up number 2 would be foolish on the spurs part

[tbdog]

Why doesn't the Celtics trade Brown for Lillard and their unprotected 1st they have available? Lillard is expiring.

[RC_Drunkford]

Celtics fans wish the Spurs were that dumb. Just give them Vassell and Harper and boom they back. That won‘t happen.

[scott]

Jake Fischer’s livestream today (you can find on YouTube) he says that the people he’s talking to around the league say that KD is being viewed by most teams as a potential one year rental.

[BG_Spurs_Fan]

Why doesn't the Celtics trade Brown for Lillard and their unprotected 1st they have available? Lillard is expiring.

Because Lillard isn't expiring and also because they need immediate cap relief, not in 1 or 2 years.

They have to get creative and break down bigger contracts into mid-sized ones that they can then trade into other teams' MLEs or TEs (likely in 3- or 4- way trades). They need to shed at least $20 million, and maybe even try to get under the tax altogether and reset the repeater counter, which would be $40 mil at least.

[RC_Drunkford]

Jake Fischer’s livestream today (you can find on YouTube) he says that the people he’s talking to around the league say that KD is being viewed by most teams as a potential one year rental.

probably because he only wants to extend with the Spurs. According to Gambo the Suns haven't had trade talks since the trade deadline. Phoenix doesn't want KAT. KD's circle says he wants to come to San Antonio.

[cd021]

He isn't (not "good" ones at least, or he'd have been traded at the deadline), but my point is, I don't think they've went from that to settling for a worse Johnson and trading up 12-13 spots, when as I said, they're not far off as is with 19 and between that 26 and 27, can likely trade into that range if they want.

I'm assuming that they shopped him to contenders, but few teams had two firsts to give up aside from OKC. The Thunder didn't bite, so his actual value may be closer to a mid- to late first.


They have been shopping him and 19 to move up to acquire a second lottery pick. However, the Raptors need that pick for a Giannis trade. They've also been linked to Kharman Maluach at nine. Houston's been linked to KD, and the Suns likely want that pick back since it was theirs.


The player they want probably is expected to go in the back half of the lottery, so they are trying to leapfrog the team they think might draft him. Or, just reaching out to those two teams because they are the most open about trading their picks.


If neither deal happens, then Keldon and 14 for Cam Johnson and 26 is a good deal considering they were trying to move up 10 spots. In this scenario, they'd be moving up 12 and getting a young player they might like. For all we know, the player they might want will still be available at 14.

[exstatic]

Why doesn't the Celtics trade Brown for Lillard and their unprotected 1st they have available? Lillard is expiring.

He absolutely is not expiring. He has a $58M player option for 26-27 than he will 100% pick up.

[tbdog]

He absolutely is not expiring. He has a $58M player option for 26-27 than he will 100% pick up.

Thanks. Didn't realise that. Man, Bucks are proper done for.

[Seventyniner]

Jake Fischer’s livestream today (you can find on YouTube) he says that the people he’s talking to around the league say that KD is being viewed by most teams as a potential one year rental.

Good. Drives down his price even more.

[TD 21]

On top of his ridiculous contract for a mid ass player he's also about to have meniscus surgery. I wouldn't trade Branham and Wesley for him. I wouldn't even trade Bonner and Blair for him. He's a highly negative value contract at four more years of vet 35% supermax. He's nearly as toxic as Beal.

Same. He's Fox's caliber, which is fringe All-Star, but has a reputation like he's All-NBA and a contract like he's fringe MVP because he's been on the best team in the league in the first half of the 20s.

I'm assuming that they shopped him to contenders, but few teams had two firsts to give up aside from OKC. The Thunder didn't bite, so his actual value may be closer to a mid- to late first.


They have been shopping him and 19 to move up to acquire a second lottery pick. However, the Raptors need that pick for a Giannis trade. They've also been linked to Kharman Maluach at nine. Houston's been linked to KD, and the Suns likely want that pick back since it was theirs.


The player they want probably is expected to go in the back half of the lottery, so they are trying to leapfrog the team they think might draft him. Or, just reaching out to those two teams because they are the most open about trading their picks.


If neither deal happens, then Keldon and 14 for Cam Johnson and 26 is a good deal considering they were trying to move up 10 spots. In this scenario, they'd be moving up 12 and getting a young player they might like. For all we know, the player they might want will still be available at 14.

I get it, I just don't think they'd do it. I keep coming back to, between 19, 26 and 27, they can already probably trade into the 14 range as is, so I don't see the incentive to sacrifice Johnson in the process.

[CGD]

probably because he only wants to extend with the Spurs. According to Gambo the Suns haven't had trade talks since the trade deadline. Phoenix doesn't want KAT. KD's circle says he wants to come to San Antonio.

Probably bc no one, not even the Spurs, want to pay his extension asking price.

[vy65]

Had been thinking about this, but KOC’s latest YouTube confirms …

ATL:
Giannis

MIL:
Jalen Johnson
Devin Vassell
2025 #14
2026 SAS with ATL swap
2027 ATL FRP

SAS
Rissacher
Daniels

ATL would need to add players on the min to make this work, but that makes sense for most, but MIL likely says no.

[mo7888]

Had been thinking about this, but KOC’s latest YouTube confirms …

ATL:
Giannis

MIL:
Jalen Johnson
Devin Vassell
2025 #14
2026 SAS with ATL swap
2027 ATL FRP

SAS
Rissacher
Daniels

ATL would need to add players on the min to make this work, but that makes sense for most, but MIL likely says no.

I hope we say no as well...

[tbdog]

Yeah wtf. 3 good picks and Vassell for fissacher and Daniels? Spurs don't even needs Daniels.

[BG_Spurs_Fan]

KC

[RC_Drunkford]

I know nobody here wants to trade down, but again it's rumored that Wright wants to do it.

Suns: Markkanen, #14

Jazz: Barnes, Vassell, Keldon, Branham #2

Spurs: KD, John Collins, #5