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    It's rumored that Wright wants to trade down with the number 2 pick? Where have you heard that? Are the sources somewhat reliable?

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    I know nobody here wants to trade down, but again it's rumored that Wright wants to do it.

    Suns: Markkanen, #14

    Jazz: Barnes, Vassell, Keldon, Branham #2

    Spurs: KD, John Collins, #5
    I don't get why the Spurs would give up the second pick in that trade. The reports are that they can get KD for Barnes, Vassell, and 14. In this deal, they'd just get John Collins for trading down from 2 to 5.

    If they are able to include Branham in the KD trade, they'd still have the second pick and full access to the MLE to sign a cheaper backup center.

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    Had been thinking about this, but KOC’s latest YouTube confirms …

    ATL:
    Giannis

    MIL:
    Jalen Johnson
    Devin Vassell
    2025 #14
    2026 SAS with ATL swap
    2027 ATL FRP

    SAS
    Rissacher
    Daniels

    ATL would need to add players on the min to make this work, but that makes sense for most, but MIL likely says no.
    this seems heavily tilted against us. so we reverse the whole dejounte trade for risacher and daniels.. risacher cant even win ROY and doesnt really look that special.. we should at least get Jalen there

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    Had been thinking about this, but KOC’s latest YouTube confirms …

    ATL:
    Giannis

    MIL:
    Jalen Johnson
    Devin Vassell
    2025 #14
    2026 SAS with ATL swap
    2027 ATL FRP

    SAS
    Rissacher
    Daniels

    ATL would need to add players on the min to make this work, but that makes sense for most, but MIL likely says no.
    KOC is a notorious Spurs hater. This ‘confirms’ that.

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    It's rumored that Wright wants to trade down with the number 2 pick? Where have you heard that? Are the sources somewhat reliable?
    Don’t pay any attention to Spurs pre draft rumors. They run a pretty tight ship, so anything you might hear is of a manufactured nature. Posters here will take it and run with it, as it suits their agenda.

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    Todays trade idea (assuming KD is the prize):

    ORL: Devin, #38
    SAS: KD
    PHX: Barnes, Carter, Anthony, #16

    Orlando addresses their shooting needs and thins the heard. Suns still get their pick, as well as address their center needs (which was rumored).

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    I don't get why the Spurs would give up the second pick in that trade. The reports are that they can get KD for Barnes, Vassell, and 14. In this deal, they'd just get John Collins for trading down from 2 to 5.

    If they are able to include Branham in the KD trade, they'd still have the second pick and full access to the MLE to sign a cheaper backup center.
    I‘m not saying they will trade down to get KD. I‘m saying they trade down cause they don’t want to draft another PG. I don‘t think they will trade down for Maluach, but they might think Bailey + assets would be a better move. There‘s all kind of rumors going around about the Spurs. Like I said before, anybody not named Wemby, Fox or Castle is in play and that includes #2 and the ATL picks

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    I‘m not saying they will trade down to get KD. I‘m saying they trade down cause they don’t want to draft another PG. I don‘t think they will trade down for Maluach, but they might think Bailey + assets would be a better move. There‘s all kind of rumors going around about the Spurs. Like I said before, anybody not named Wemby, Fox or Castle is in play and that includes #2 and the ATL picks
    Yea, but i wouldn't call Collins 'other assets'. We can get KD with including #2. Maybe if there's another unprotected pick or two coming our way..

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    Todays trade idea (assuming KD is the prize):

    ORL: Devin, #38
    SAS: KD
    PHX: Barnes, Carter, Anthony, #16

    Orlando addresses their shooting needs and thins the heard. Suns still get their pick, as well as address their center needs (which was rumored).
    That looks realistic, as I said the main thing is to find a third team for Devin, Suns don't need him.

    I‘m saying they trade down cause they don’t want to draft another PG.
    Why would they? We need another point guard. Castle isn't one at this stage of his career.

    There‘s all kind of rumors going around about the Spurs.
    And as per usual, all those rumors are bs.
    Spurs trades happen only when every major outlet keeps reporting it, like it did with Fox.
    KD thing is gaining traction and I expect it to happen, Spurs not drafting at #2 is just boredom and fanfiction to generate content because there's nothing better to talk about at this stage.

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    Had been thinking about this, but KOC’s latest YouTube confirms …

    ATL:
    Giannis

    MIL:
    Jalen Johnson
    Devin Vassell
    2025 #14
    2026 SAS with ATL swap
    2027 ATL FRP

    SAS
    Rissacher
    Daniels

    ATL would need to add players on the min to make this work, but that makes sense for most, but MIL likely says no.
    That trade violates the Stepien rule.

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    That trade violates the Stepien rule.
    I think the trade means we swap in 2026. MIL get the best pick of SAS / ATL / MIL. Spurs get the 2nd best and ATL the 3rd

    But I don’t get the trade. The atlanta pick and swap loose a lot of value in a trade that send Giannis to Atlanta…

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    Don’t pay any attention to Spurs pre draft rumors. They run a pretty tight ship, so anything you might hear is of a manufactured nature. Posters here will take it and run with it, as it suits their agenda.
    OK, thanks. I'll try not to from this point on as I really don't like the sounds of some of these rumors.

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    Had been thinking about this, but KOC’s latest YouTube confirms …

    ATL:
    Giannis

    MIL:
    Jalen Johnson
    Devin Vassell
    2025 #14
    2026 SAS with ATL swap
    2027 ATL FRP

    SAS
    Rissacher
    Daniels

    ATL would need to add players on the min to make this work, but that makes sense for most, but MIL likely says no.
    This is what I'm trying to wrap my head around. If Giannis' agent gets the ATL gig, he will most likely go to the Hawks. That would mean we reroute our swap and pick with protections to Milwaukee. But what exactly do we get out of the deal?

    I'd guess they want to keep Daniels in Atlanta. We'd only have to send Branham to Atlanta to get Risacher back. Maybe Okongwu too? the #13 pick? Still that's way too much draft capital to give up for these players. We could also send Okongwu to the Suns to get the KD deal done, but again: we are overpaying massively for what Atlanta is sending back to us.

    If we send Barnes or Keldon + Branham to ATL,

    ATL 26 + 27 to the Bucks (protected)

    and get back Risacher, Okongwu and #13 would y'all say we are overpaying?


    Yea, but i wouldn't call Collins 'other assets'. We can get KD with including #2. Maybe if there's another unprotected pick or two coming our way..
    that's what I meant. Future draft capital.

    And as per usual, all those rumors are bs.
    Spurs trades happen only when every major outlet keeps reporting it, like it did with Fox.
    KD thing is gaining traction and I expect it to happen, Spurs not drafting at #2 is just boredom and fanfiction to generate content because there's nothing better to talk about at this stage.
    I doubt it. I wouldn't like trading down, but there's a lot of smoke there and I'm not talking about KOC or ESPN.

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    KOC is a notorious Spurs hater. This ‘confirms’ that.
    How is it so? Legality aside (as Chinook pointed out, Spurs can't send their 26 and 27 picks like they did before moving their own 27 to the Kings for Fox), this deal has the Spurs getting Risacher and Daniels for 3 picks and Vassell. I very much doubt Spurs can get 2 young players like those with those picks, it'd take another stroke of lottery luck, otherwise it's far more likely you'll end up with another Lonnie Walker, Samanic, Keldon, Vassell, Primo, Sochan, Branham, Wesley, etc. If somebody turns this deal down, it isn't the Spurs, but Atlanta and Milwaukee.

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    I doubt it. I wouldn't like trading down, but there's a lot of smoke there and I'm not talking about KOC or ESPN.
    I'd be willing to bet my account that Harper will be in Spurs uniform at the Summer League unless a miraculous Giannis trade happens.

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    What job is Giannis' agent applying for in Atlanta? That's interesting if his agent is getting a job with them. I can now understand the Hawks rumors.

    If Giannis ends up there, I wouldn't think those Atlanta picks would be worth much then . I'd rather he didn't go there as you never know, they could still end up in the lottery and you never know what those picks will end up as if they do.
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    That trade violates the Stepien rule.
    and logic
    and common sense

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    I'd be willing to bet my account that Harper will be in Spurs uniform at the Summer League unless a miraculous Giannis trade happens.
    That still doesn't say much at the end of the day. The Spurs can very much be looking to move this pick but only if it's the right offer and it makes sense. Nobody knows if they're dead set at actually keeping it.

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    I'd be willing to bet my account that Harper will be in Spurs uniform at the Summer League unless a miraculous Giannis trade happens.
    That still doesn't say much at the end of the day. The Spurs can very much be looking to move this pick but only if it's the right offer and it makes sense to do so. Not just because they're head over heels in love with Harper. Nobody knows if they're dead set on actually keeping it.

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    That still doesn't say much at the end of the day. The Spurs can very much be looking to move this pick but only if it's the right offer and it makes sense to do so. Not just because they're head over heels in love with Harper. Nobody knows if they're dead set on actually keeping it.
    The post you quoted mentioned summer league. If he’s in summer league, he’s signed his rookie contact, and we’re keeping him.

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    That still doesn't say much at the end of the day. The Spurs can very much be looking to move this pick but only if it's the right offer and it makes sense. Nobody knows if they're dead set at actually keeping it.
    Brian Wright has been looking for more or less the exact player Harper is ever since he took over, hence the Primo failed pick.
    He's not going to pass on Harper just because 28 year old Fox is on the roster.
    Castle isn't a full time point guard.

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    I hope we say no as well...
    Love what Risacher showed this year but damn can't really play PF most likely.

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    I'd be willing to bet my account that Harper will be in Spurs uniform at the Summer League unless a miraculous Giannis trade happens.
    let‘s hope so

    What job is Giannis' agent applying for in Atlanta? That's interesting if he agent is getting a job with them. I can now understand the Hawks rumors.

    If Giannis ends up there, I wouldn't think those Atlanta picks would be worth much then . I'd rather he didn't go there as you never know, they could still end up in the lottery and you never know what those picks will end up as if they do.
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    The post you quoted mentioned summer league. If he’s in summer league, he’s signed his rookie contact, and we’re keeping him.
    I know that. I was referring to pre-draft. Nobody knows what is being discussed before draft day. They could very well be trying to find suitors for pick 2 and very well be listening to offers being made for it. Even if he's drafted doesn't mean they weren't considering moving it. It could very much mean they just didn't find anything they liked.

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    Had been thinking about this, but KOC’s latest YouTube confirms …

    ATL:
    Giannis

    MIL:
    Jalen Johnson
    Devin Vassell
    2025 #14
    2026 SAS with ATL swap
    2027 ATL FRP

    SAS
    Rissacher
    Daniels

    ATL would need to add players on the min to make this work, but that makes sense for most, but MIL likely says no.
    Ok, since this one was generally reviled, what about this:

    ATL:
    Giannis

    MIL:
    Jalen Johnson
    Dyson Daniels
    Keldon Johnson
    2025 FRP#13
    2025 FRP#14
    2025 FRP#22
    2027 FRP (ATL)
    2029 FRP (ATL)
    2031 FRP (ATL)

    Spurs:
    Onyeka Okongwu

    And, if that's still not enough for the Bucks, this also works:

    ATL:
    Giannis
    Tyler Smith

    MIL:
    Jalen Johnson
    Dyson Daniels
    Keldon Johnson
    Zaccharie Risacher
    2025 FRP#13
    2025 FRP#14
    2025 FRP#22
    2027 FRP (ATL)
    2029 FRP (ATL)
    2031 FRP (ATL)

    Spurs:
    Onyeka Okongwu

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