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    White, Walker and Murray is the backcourt of the future!!!!








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    If I'm LeBron there's no way I got to LAL alone. That roster is kind of trash.


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    Last thing I heard was that at the meeting between Spurs and Kawhi (including his group) is that Kawhi actually spoke. As a matter of fact he did most of the talking. He advised them he wants out. I think the Spurs will continue to repair the relationship, but at the same time will consider trading him and will trade him, but has to be an offer that blows them away.

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    Last thing I heard was that at the meeting between Spurs and Kawhi (including his group) is that Kawhi actually spoke. As a matter of fact he did most of the talking. He advised them he wants out. I think the Spurs will continue to repair the relationship, but at the same time will consider trading him and will trade him, but has to be an offer that blows them away.
    Yeah obviously. Spurs want to keep making playoffs and have to get a good return if he gets traded. I do hope they patch things up but it might be to late.

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    It might, but the Spurs don't have to rush into anything. If I am them I do absolutely everything to try to work it out and take my sweet time just like he did "rehabbing" in NY.

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    Last thing I heard was that at the meeting between Spurs and Kawhi (including his group) is that Kawhi actually spoke. As a matter of fact he did most of the talking. He advised them he wants out. I think the Spurs will continue to repair the relationship, but at the same time will consider trading him and will trade him, but has to be an offer that blows them away.
    Did Kawhi emphatically tell them he wants out? In your opinion, you think it can be repaired? Or is it just a matter of them getting an offer they like?

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    Did Kawhi emphatically tell them he wants out? In your opinion, you think it can be repaired? Or is it just a matter of them getting an offer they like?
    I don't know if it was emphatically, but he did tell them he wants to leave. Was very surprised to hear that he did most of the talking. That stood out to me the most to be honest. IMO I think they can repair it with a $219 million offer or something very close to that. That is my honest opinion. I think they should hold everything until free agency starts.

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    I don't see why the Spurs don't just give him the $219M and then trade him after a year if he still wants out. They'd have a lot more leverage that way. If they are thinking about keeping him for a year and losing him for nothing, or only getting crappy offers at the trade deadline, why not sign him to the Super Max? That way, there's a much better chance of them getting a better return if they do trade him.

    I know people have mentioned that he can't be traded for a year after getting the Super Max, but I wanted to clarify -When would that year start? After his current contract ends, or after the first year he's on the Super Max, or is it simply one year after he signs for it?

    Also, any idea of what reason/s Kawhi said for wanting out?

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    I don't see why the Spurs don't just give him the $219M and then trade him after a year if he still wants out. They'd have a lot more leverage that way. If they are thinking about keeping him for a year and losing him for nothing, or only getting crappy offers at the trade deadline, why not sign him to the Super Max? That way, there's a much better chance of them getting a better return if they do trade him.

    I know people have mentioned that he can't be traded for a year after getting the Super Max, but I wanted to clarify -When would that year start? After his current contract ends, or after the first year he's on the Super Max, or is it simply one year after he signs for it?

    Also, any idea of what reason/s Kawhi said for wanting out?
    Because he could get hurt and be stuck with that contract or not the same Kawhi from two years ago.

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    you can't hand this guy a check for 219 million anymore.

    how dare this mother er do this to the best organization in basketball. him.

    keep this asshole and make him play lebron minutes, ride him hard and put him away wet.

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    I don't see why the Spurs don't just give him the $219M and then trade him after a year if he still wants out. They'd have a lot more leverage that way. If they are thinking about keeping him for a year and losing him for nothing, or only getting crappy offers at the trade deadline, why not sign him to the Super Max? That way, there's a much better chance of them getting a better return if they do trade him.

    I know people have mentioned that he can't be traded for a year after getting the Super Max, but I wanted to clarify -When would that year start? After his current contract ends, or after the first year he's on the Super Max, or is it simply one year after he signs for it?

    Also, any idea of what reason/s Kawhi said for wanting out?
    Word is, also, that he wants a no trade clause so he can choose where he wants to go and spurs said no.

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    So you don't think he's healthy enough to offer it? Because it can't be based on whether or not someone could get hurt. That's silly not to offer it on a guess. If he's 100% healthy now, they should offer it.

    I wonder if Kawhi would be willing to play in OKC with Russell Westbrook. I wouldn't mind trading for Paul George and then trying to sign Lebron.

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    Word is, also, that he wants a no trade clause so he can choose where he wants to go and spurs said no.
    Steph Curry didn't get one when he was a FA last summer. GS flat refused. Arrogant of The Group to think Kawhi is en led to one.

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    So you don't think he's healthy enough to offer it? Because it can't be based on whether or not someone could get hurt. That's silly not to offer it on a guess. If he's 100% healthy now, they should offer it.

    I wonder if Kawhi would be willing to play in OKC with Russell Westbrook. I wouldn't mind trading for Paul George and then trying to sign Lebron.
    Sure it can. Even if insurance covers the salary in the event of a catastrophic injury, you're stuck with a HUGE amount of dead money on the cap until it expires. The final year's cap figure would be $49M. What if cord cutting leads to the next TV deal being less, and the cap dropping to 90M? That's only about an 18M drop, but would leave you with only 41M to put together an entire roster.

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    The no trade clause would be the deal breaker for me. I don't mind signing him to the Super Max b/c that takes away all leverage his camp has. But you cannot give him the no trade clause.

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    Word is, also, that he wants a no trade clause so he can choose where he wants to go and spurs said no.
    Do you know for sure? If so, that's going just a little bit too far IMO. Kawhi and his group are being clowns. If you're lucky enough to get the Super Max, especially after sitting out a year, demanding a no trade clause on top of that is freaking ridiculous.

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    Word is, also, that he wants a no trade clause so he can choose where he wants to go and spurs said no.
    So basically he’s willing to trade 12 months of half-assing it in San Antonio for the extra $120 million, so the Spurs can get fleeced by the Lakers in 2019 instead of 2018.

    And good to know he did most of the talking. No more of this excuse — “Poor Kawhi, his uncle is manipulating him.” This piece of knows exactly what he is doing. him with the Pear of Anguish. Frankly, I resent that he’ll end up in a good situation in Boston or Philadelphia, because he deserves to be exiled to Atlanta or Charlotte or some .

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    So basically he’s willing to trade 12 months of half-assing it in San Antonio for the extra $120 million, so the Spurs can get fleeced by the Lakers in 2019 instead of 2018.

    And good to know he did most of the talking. No more of this excuse — “Poor Kawhi, his uncle is manipulating him.” This piece of knows exactly what he is doing. him with the Pear of Anguish. Frankly, I resent that he’ll end up in a good situation in Boston or Philadelphia, because he deserves to be exiled to Atlanta or Charlotte or some .
    It's just a rumor, chill the out.

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    keep him and burn him up with minutes. 48 a night. don't offer a contract.

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    Keep in mind, during Dwightmare, Dwight asked for a trade during training camp and magic didn't trade him. Halfway through the year, Dwight signed the opt in for the following year. Dwight was traded that offseason. So it's still possible Leonard can sign the opt in, in advance.

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    It might, but the Spurs don't have to rush into anything. If I am them I do absolutely everything to try to work it out and take my sweet time just like he did "rehabbing" in NY.
    Yes, they can get that Laker deal anytime through February of next year, so no need to jump into something when cir stances may change to your favor.

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    I could see them fighting to end guaranteed contracts after this ordeal or doing some other radical change. Back in the day is much easier to keep stars in smaller markets. You had guys like Miller,Malone, all pretty much play their whole entire career in one market. As long as the star player got paid they would stay in one place. Now this era it's nearly impossible to keep your superstar even if you offer them the most money.
    Not really. In the last three seasons, money was the reason why the teams lost their franchise players. Spurs, Bulls and Kings refused to give supermax deals and lost Kawhi, Jimmy Butler and Cousins.

    Before, Presti lost Harden for the same reason, too. While Jazz refused to max and give an extension to Hayward, then they matched offer as RFA...which media said it was the begining of Hayward's displeasure in Utah.

    Only LMA and KD decisions weren't about money when they left their teams.

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