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I like Rizacher but in this year's draft he'd be around the 14th pick
Which means Daniels = 2 potentially very good 1RPs? It's too much for me.
If Spurs could get Jalen instead of either Riz or Daniels that would be appealing
Don't want him going to Atlanta. It devalues the Atlanta swap and 2027 pick.
And what picks are you suggesting the Spurs to give up? The #14 and Atlanta 2027 for Onyeka Okongwu?
I like Rizacher but in this year's draft he'd be around the 14th pick
Which means Daniels = 2 potentially very good 1RPs? It's too much for me.
If Spurs could get Jalen instead of either Riz or Daniels that would be appealing
Harper can be first off the bench and allows him to contribute and learn and be able to take over once Fox contract runs out. I am not sure why people think this is not a great situation to have if the players understand their role and their contributions do matter for a ring. Plus his minutes would probably be on par with the other two because you can always have a combination of two of them on the floor at any given time and if they can play together over time you can have a 4th qtr finishing group of all three.
Yes, those two, with the theory being that the ‘27 pick will be in the late teens/twenties with Giannis on the Hawks.
That's closer to being a deal, but that too much to give up for Okongwu and I wouldn't want Giannis in Atlanta. If we got Okongwu and Risacher out of it it might make me consider it a bit more.
I share your intuition. How’d you feel about OO and 13 coming back to us? Or keep 14 and get 22?
You’re not really picking up on the general sentiment. It’s not the details of the trade. No one wants to see Giannis in Atlanta.
I wasn’t aware Spurstalk had that kind of veto power. Interesting.
It’s not veto power, more just something no one but you is interested in discussing. You’ve re-rolled this trade, and several people have said they don’t want Freak in the ATL, then you re-roll it again, with Freak in the ATL. No one is going to give you positive feedback on a trade that sabotages our swap next year,and the 27 FRP.
Oh, ok. Thank you for policing the conversation. I bet you’re fun!
I wouldn't want Giannis in Atlanta, but if they were doing the deal anyway and I got in on it I'd need Risacher in the deal. I like Okongwu, but not that much.
Not just me, vy.
I absolutely don't want to see it happen or even talk about it. Exstatic said exactly what I was thinking.
Risacher is a 6'8.5" wing who just turned 20 and already proved he's a legit NBA starting level player with upside for more, that's worth a lot more than the 14th pick in this year's draft, you can argue in hindsight you'll be able to find a better player than him available at 14 in his class, but in reality it's far more likely than not you won't get anyone anywhere near as good as him at that spot.
that wouldn't be enough for me if we give them back their unprotected pick and swap. Risacher and #13 wouldn't even be that enticing although it's probably fair value since the picks would be in the 20s if they got Giannis. I hope he stays in Milwaukee
It’s kind of looking like he might.
I think if we are involved in a Giannis trade we should definitely be the ones getting Giannis or off.
btw I heard Trae Young switched from Clutch to CAA cause they didn't get him to San Antonio
It wasn’t Klutch’s fault. ATL wouldn’t trade him for anything other than all of their picks back,and that wasn’t and isn’t his market. If he wants to dissociate from the culprit who kept him from SA,he’s needs to request a trade.
Wow. If he really wanted to come to the Spurs, that sucks for him.
In a situation like that, who does Klutch choose to try and get there? Did they explore getting Trae there first and Atlanta wouldn't budge and then moved to try and get Fox there instead? I don't see how it could be Klutch's fault, though. It would have been pretty much Atlanta like Exstatic just said. They were not going to do it for anything less than all their picks back.
Why would Giannis want Atlanta and especially if they are giving up their second third and fourth best players in Johnson, Daniel’s, Risacher.
Giannis doesn’t want to go from Dame Lillard plus scraps to Trae Young plus scraps. That Atlanta team wouldn’t be a contender.
The whole point is, almost any team he goes to is going to be gutted.
He has to go to teams that have lots of draft picks plus salary filler to give the Bucks and there is not many teams with those. Rockets, OKC, Spurs would be the teams that have draft picks, but do any of these teams want to give up all those draft picks because if it doesn't work out, they're giving up their future and it could end up like a Milwaukee situation anyway.
I don't see Rizacher with an Allstar potential. Not because of talent/skills but because of his personality, I don't see a "dog" in him.
I see a very good role player and there are plenty in this draft even around 14. That would also be a lot cheaper than a 1st pick salary.
I think he's been put in a starting position that allowed those stats, that imho are a bit inflated because he never had to fight for his job. (Same parallel could be drawn with Sochan btw)
Most rookies would have ended up at the end of the bench with so many bad games efficiency wise
The trade I would like the most is for SA to draft Harper and then use 14 to move up for Kon. Thats the trade I want to see. Or even Maluach.
If you think Risacher is a very good role player, at his size, skill set, youth and contract, even if he doesn't have all star potential (I don't think it's beyond the realm of possibility he does) he's easily worth the 14th pick. You see prospects available at that spot that have role player potential, Risacher already proved he belongs. There's a massive difference. Any team in the late lottery would deal their pick for him, and I don't think it's close.
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