Flynn in major trouble for speaking to Russia about sanctions

[boutons_deux]

Nothing short of ‘armed conflict’ will stop Russian attacks on US elections — ‘it is the new normal’: DNC hack investigator


https://www.rawstory.com/2019/03/nothing-short-armed-conflict-will-stop-russian-attacks-us-elections-new-normal-dnc-hack-investigator/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaig n=Feed%3A+TheRawStory+%28The+Raw+Story%29

Pootin is laughing his ass off.

Big Bad American Empire is obviously a defenseless pussy against foreign cyber warriors.

Even the CIA had all their nasty stolen.

[boutons_deux]

The Russian collusion investigation was already under way when Trump fired Comey. Try again.

What smoke justified the Russian collusion investigation?

But the pre-election, SILENT investigation of Trash and Russia was broken open when Trash fired Comey.

We'll see how Trash laundered money for the Russian oligarchs aka mafiya after SDNY, etc investigations are exposed, also Trash getting $100Ms from DB money launderer with Russian connections.

[TSA]

That's just it.

We've answered this very question from you multiple times.

Don't asked questions we've already directly answered for you multiple times.

I didn’t really give a what you thought until you jumped in the middle of a conversation that didn’t concern you. You quoted me dip , now you won’t answer because you know there was no smoke to justify opening an investigation.

You know if you say Papadopoulos or Page was the smoke that justified opening the investigation I’ll laugh right in your ing face and you know I’d be right to do so.

So if it’s not one of those two whose smoke justified opening the Russian collusion investigation what smoke was it? Be specific.

[TSA]

But the pre-election, SILENT investigation of Trash and Russia was broken open when Trash fired Comey.
.

Now we are getting somewhere. What smoke justified the opening of the pre-election SILENT investigation?

[Pavlov]

I didn’t really give a

That's for sure.

You're just enraged that people don't like Trump as much as you do even though you can't bring yourself to saying you approve his job performance.

Sorry.

Quit asking questions we've answered multiple times. All you're going to do is hype yet another conspiracy theory to demonize Dems.

[spurraider21]

law enforcement had been looking into it as early as spring of 2016 iirc, after the papa meeting. i dont know exactly at what point it escalated to the levels it ultimately reached.

[boutons_deux]

eg:

Deutsche Bank Offices Are Raided In Money Laundering Probe

In recent years, Deutsche Bank has been in the news not only for its prominence in the Panama Papers, but also for

its ties to President Trump, in a tumultuous relationship that

goes back some 20 years.

Trump and the bank once sued each other after he failed to repay a $300 million loan. And the author and reporter Luke Harding has described a "shuffle of money" between the bank's dealings with figures in Russia and its business with Trump.


In an interview with NPR's Fresh Air one year ago, Harding said,

"While money from Deutsche Bank New York is going into the Trump Organization,

Deutsche Bank in Moscow is at the center of a massive Russian money laundering operation involving about $10 billion"

that allowed Russia's elites to take rubles out of Russia and convert them into dollars in the U.S.

https://www.npr.org/2018/11/29/671820502/deutsche-bank-offices-are-raided-in-money-laundering-probe

[TSA]

law enforcement had been looking into it as early as spring of 2016 iirc, after the papa meeting. i dont know exactly at what point it escalated to the levels it ultimately reached.

You think the Papa/Downer meeting that Downer requested where Papa passed on info from Joseph Mifsud (Western Intelligence) was enough smoke to justify opening the Russian collusion investigation?

[RandomGuy]

There was plenty of dissenting posts from Republicans anyway but not many democrats which is a shame but even worse now is that djohn and RandomGuy have to deal with getting rightfully dunked on by the likes of Chris and hater.

sad fate bros..sad fate. I'd probably rather be dead tbh

I wouldn't be quite so quick. Most of what I said happened was simple data sharing, which was pretty well laid out through the Manafort Kalimnik axis, as well as the advance notices that the Trump campaign got from Wikileaks.

They were never going to prove the kinds of things that many wanted. I can go back through here, but the big thing for Trump was always going to be the financial crimes anyway. The collusion bit was never really going to produce any charges.

I suspect that a lot of things that didn't lead to charges but would be more than a bit damning are going to be buried in the thousand plus pages of the report.

Dunno.

[spurraider21]

You think the Papa/Downer meeting that Downer requested where Papa passed on info from Joseph Mifsud (Western Intelligence) was enough smoke to justify opening the Russian collusion investigation?

collusion was one part of the larger investigation into Russian interference. there is no particular reason why they shouldn't have looked into the possibility. and when the people they interviewed kept giving false statements, it arouses su ion and justifies a deeper look

would have been a lot more quiet and less chaotic if people just told the truth all along and trump didnt go about firing the guy and then later stating he fired him over the investigation

[RandomGuy]

a sustained relationship, with information flowing both ways, and meetings between Trump campaign and various levels of campaign officials.

Trump himself asked Russia for help, publically, in a press conference, about the very same email and dirt all these other jackasses had meetings about.

Certainly looks at this point that we have evidence the information sharing did in fact go both ways, with the Russians getting detailed voter data, so that they could direct and target their efforts to sway the election, with some small amount of Hillary information coming back, with promises of more "dirt".

Trump himself continues to act like someone compromised, meeting Putin at every opportunity he can, so that he can have discussions away from any witnesses, and having his scheduled meetings go hours over schedule.

Trump is acting guilty as all .

Stay blind to that. It will make all the that is going to come out much sweeter.

Full quote from 2017. Nothing in Barr's memo says that such information sharing didn't happen. Information sharing and meetings.

Both of which happened.

[TSA]

I wouldn't be quite so quick. Most of what I said happened was simple data sharing, which was pretty well laid out through the Manafort Kalimnik axis, as well as the advance notices that the Trump campaign got from Wikileaks.

They were never going to prove the kinds of things that many wanted. I can go back through here, but the big thing for Trump was always going to be the financial crimes anyway. The collusion bit was never really going to produce any charges.

I suspect that a lot of things that didn't lead to charges but would be more than a bit damning are going to be buried in the thousand plus pages of the report.

Dunno.

There were no advance notice from Wikileaks to the Trump campaign. You are still spreading debunked conspiracy theories, give it a rest.

[RandomGuy]

There were no advance notice from Wikileaks to the Trump campaign. You are still spreading debunked conspiracy theories, give it a rest.

(shrugs)

I will wait until Stone's trial before opining. But then, I don't get my intellectual marching orders from grifting con men.

[TSA]

collusion was one part of the larger investigation into Russian interference. there is no particular reason why they shouldn't have looked into the possibility. and when the people they interviewed kept giving false statements, it arouses su ion and justifies a deeper look

would have been a lot more quiet and less chaotic if people just told the truth all along and trump didnt go about firing the guy and then later stating he fired him over the investigation

Papadapolous wasn't interviewed until a year later. Some justifying smoke right?

[TSA]

(shrugs)

I will wait until Stone's trial before opining. But then, I don't get my intellectual marching orders from grifting con men.

No need to wait for Stone's trial, you could just read the statement of offense Mueller drafter with Corsi that debunked the whole Wikileaks giving advance notice to the Trump campaign.

[Chris]

RandomGuy has to be a troll. No one can be that gullible. Democratic Socialist? This dude's trollin'.

[RandomGuy]

Quite the contrary, I would be happy to discuss my answer, but I don't really have any patience where you are concerned these days.

You will not get an answer until you tell me why this is more important to you than Trump's conflicts of interest and Trumps gross incompetence, because I am genuinely curious as to what motivates someone to work so hard at being dishonest, and overlook so much corruption.

Quid, pro quo.

Again, early in 2018. The real ball is conflicts of interest, general corruption, and gross incompetence. Been saying that since this started. This thread, though gets all the attention, because the people sucking Trump's don't want to talk about the they know he is ing doing.

Russia stuff way sexier than simple financial malfeasance. :^/

[RandomGuy]

No need to wait for Stone's trial, you could just read the statement of offense Mueller drafter with Corsi that debunked the whole Wikileaks giving advance notice to the Trump campaign.

??? No clue what you are talking about here.

[TSA]

??? No clue what you are talking about here.

https://apps.washingtonpost.com/g/do...-offense/3324/

person 1 = Stone
organization 1 = Wikileaks

Now stop spreading Mueller debunked conspiracy theories

[Spurs Homer]

https://apps.washingtonpost.com/g/do...-offense/3324/

person 1 = Stone
organization 1 = Wikileaks

Now stop spreading Mueller debunked conspiracy theories

so, mueller confirmed russia attacked the election

reached out several times to trump team

“Allegedly” could not prove conspiracy

what is trump doing today to retaliate against russia?

is he pissed that russia “tried” to compromise him?
is he finally denouncing putin now that muellers report confirmed russia’s attack?

if you were not stupid- you might find it odd that trump will “forget” that putin attacked the usa

didnt he call obama weak for less than this?

[TSA]

GOP launches counterattack on FBI’s handling of 2016 election

Senate Judiciary Committee chairman Lindsey Graham wants a new special counsel to explore whether the DOJ and FBI sought to stop Trump in 2016.

https://www.politico.com/story/2019/...ection-1235224

[spurraider21]

[Chris]

Damn, you were wrong about everything for 2+ years!

Feels bad man.

[Pavlov]

GOP launches counterattack on FBI’s handling of 2016 election

Senate Judiciary Committee chairman Lindsey Graham wants a new special counsel to explore whether the DOJ and FBI sought to stop Trump in 2016.

https://www.politico.com/story/2019/...ection-1235224

is he going to go after himself for getting McCain to give the dossier to the FBI?

[RandomGuy]

https://apps.washingtonpost.com/g/do...-offense/3324/

person 1 = Stone
organization 1 = Wikileaks

Now stop spreading Mueller debunked conspiracy theories

Skimmed it.

Maybe you can tell me again, what does the second sentence on page 1, paragraph 1 mean?

Me being simple and all. Maybe you can fill that out for me.