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you are correct, I did more reading and it's clear.
fwiw, I wouldn't mind if they paid Manu $10 million. Not that it would make a difference in the real world, but better that free agents see once again that the Spurs take care of players.
I don't either. The Spurs will pay Manu every penny they can afford to pay him, but they rightfully shouldn't sacrifice useful pieces to do it. I'm sure Manu knows that. I suspect that even his agent knows that.
you are correct, I did more reading and it's clear.
fwiw, I wouldn't mind if they paid Manu $10 million. Not that it would make a difference in the real world, but better that free agents see once again that the Spurs take care of players.
So if they wait until everything else is done, they can sign him to whatever they want? If that's the case, give him fifteen million.
Regarding Manu, Nate Duncan breaks it down well here from 28.30: http://www.blogtalkradio.com/duncdon...3-and-4-part-1
It's unlikely that we can match anything when it comes to Boban and giving the remaining money that isn't going elsewhere anyway, up to 15m to Manu is about making things right from underpaying him previously. Especially making last season work.
It would be the Spurs thing to do you could say. Taking care of your players and of course Manu isn't just any player.
In a world where Dirk is getting $20 Million a year and Wade is getting offered $25 Million, $10 Million for Manu seems more than tame enough. Really, though, it doesn't matter if it's $5 Million or $20 Million. It affects the cap the same way. If I were the Spurs, I wouldn't hesitate about giving him that money if he wasn't taking the room exception. But I'd want to tack on a second fully non-guaranteed year after it. And the guarantee date would be well after the moratorium/lockout so that the team could do anything with it that they pleased. Give him his going away present and be done with it.
Yes, but that means they they have to keep his $4.4-Million cap hold, which means at this point Tim would have to retire and the team would have to lose Boban. But the room exception could be used to replace Marjanovic (or even to re-sign him) with someone like Bourousis or Dedmon or Plumlee (ew) or Birdman or a number of other bigs. And then Boban's $1.5-Million QO and the remaining cap space could be used on one more player. After all that is done (excluding the use of the room exception), then Manu can be signed using his Bird rights and Murray/LJC/Milutinov if they go that route can be signed to the full 120 percent of the rookie scale.
I just hate how Spurs gave Gasol the 2nd year as a player option. It's going to ruin Spurs' flexibility next off-season.
Odds are Gasol doesn't have a better year than last year and he opts in.
He's going on 37 years old, and he won't see nearly as many touches as he did in Chicago. Only way I could see him increase his value is if he went to a situation like Chicago where his touches were maximized, in SA, playing with Aldridge and Kawhi, his touches will be very limited and he'll put up 11 and 8 with okay defense -- not enough to warrant opting out and expecting a bigger pay day -- especially considering he's 36 going on 37 years old.
If they were going to tie up money for next year too, the better play in the long run for Kawhi/Aldridge/Green's next 3-4 years was to go after Biyombo instead of Gasol -- even at the expense of 1 yr rental in Patty/ Diaw. IMO
I agree about the option but am resigned to the idea that it was probably a dealbreaker without it from Pau's side.
Good news is that he'll be off the books with Parker at the same time, what's that, 30 million? Of course, I think Green has the ability to opt out at the same time, so ... bad news?
Sure...
It just prolongs the re-building process around Leonard/Aldridge/Green when it could have started this summer.
Just would have prefered Biyombo at C with the Aldridge/Leonard/Green core starting this year than surrounding the core with Pau and Parker for next 2 years.
His reps contacted Golden State and he said he'd be interested in other teams to try to entice the Warriors into signing up his corpse for the league minimum.
Lol. Was just waiting for a tweet like this to appear. I bet he goes to GSW.
I don't disagree, unfortunately the Durant wooing fiasco cost the Spurs those opportunities. Biyombo was off the table before the public decision. So was my man Mahinmi, though I know he's not a popular figure around here. Even Cole Aldrich, off the table.
I always thought Durant chasing was a waste of time, but I also thought that about chasing Aldridge.
Even if Biyombo was off the table, I would have preferred going after him the moment major guys like Woj were saying it was between Warriors and OKC. They could have had a shot then.
Also, I would have even preferred Boursousis on a 1+ 1(team option) deal for 5-6 mil per over Gasol for 2 yrs/30 mil. Could have given Spurs flexibility to keep Diaw or still trade him if they knew they had a shot for a guy to build with Kawhi/Green/ Aldridge like a Harkless. If they kept Diaw then they'd still maintain flexibility to add another young piece next to Kawhi/Aldridge/Green next off-season.
Don't you want Parker gone because he's overpaid? Lol
He'll sign for the minimum, for sure. We have a SG roster spot open for a vet
Green/Simmons/Allen
absolutely, and his contract goes beyond this year. And it's not just overpaid. It's his performance.
I would rather have Manu at 10 million and no Parker than Parker at 14 for 2 years and no Manu.
Be honest with yourself. Manu ain't worth more than the vets min.
He's washed. I'd rather get rid of both.
Forbes for the rookie scale contract or two years removed from compe ion Ray Allen looking to get new NBA money? Give me Forbes please.
It would be a goodbye thank-you gift that even without wouldn't give the Spurs any decent caproom. Parker's deal has been strangling their cap and will continue to do so.
Manu comes off the bench and plays bench minutes. Parker starts and plays starter minutes.
Manu is better at his job than Parker is at his, period. And Manu can occasionally guard his position, something Parker hasn't done for years.
Your main reason of paying Manu was to show free agents that we take care of our guys, but then you want to trade one of the best players we've ever had because he's old. Dat good Ol Manu fan logic.
Manu is better at his job? What job is that? Run one of the worst benches we've ever had? Pop himself said everything went to crap against the Thunder when the bench came in. Time to change up and go away from his ball dominant play style that doesn't fit him anymore. Oh, and Manu doesn't defend anyone forgot cooked by Rivers and Waiters in back to back years.
Manu Ginobili 2015 playoffs:
8.0ppg, 3.4rpg, 4.6apg, 34.9FG%
Manu Ginobili 2016 playoffs:
6.7ppg, 2.7rpg, 2.5apg, 42.6FG%
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