not sure why people are low on Queen but i can see him fitting well with Wemby and also being that first big off the bench. He is just too skillful. He probably will not be there at 14 but if he is, I wouldn’t mind taking him. He can rebound and can score and pass. His defense is a work in progress to see he has the lateral quickness to guard in space but at 14 you will get a flawed player.
I liked Queen until the Spurs got #2 and now poised to draft Dylan and would create that 3-guard offense. I just don’t think Queen would fit that running, motion offense that will be the natural play. I think a more mobile big would be ideal, also preferably a stretch big who can open up the lane, someone like Fleming. To me Wolf fits the bill but many here questions his physicality. Sorber is a big who can move and has shown promise with 72% FT.
At this point we could be picking from all four of Queen-Sorber-Fleming-Wolfe at 14 which is why many of us are high on the pick.
I wouldn’t get too attached to the idea of the Spurs drafting and keeping a player at 14. You’ll only be pissed off when they flip it for a 2032 unprotected first. It’s not the best idea to build expectations that go against historical organization norms.
I don’t think Queen can play defense at an NBA level and have concerns about his athleticism on offense limiting whatever polish and skill he has on that end. I really hope someone picks him before 14.
because he‘s one of the worst athletes in combine history
I think Queen goes to Washington or maybe like Chicago. He won't last past 10. If he does, I'd grab him without a second question.
I do have defensive concerns. I have no offensive concerns. The guy stands to be extremely good on that side in the right system. I don't give a crap about combine numbers; just watch him actually play. In the Poeltl role on offense, he can roll into the high post and be super effective there. The guy is extremely skilled on that end.
Fit is a question, sure enough. But he's too talented to pass on.
Spurs exercised all 2022 pick so it’s not that they haven’t done so before. I think there are good players on both picks #14 even #38 that Spurs can work on. I think they have next season to experiment on that 3-guard offense, evaluate then bring vets to patch holes, but they sure can audition rookies now and see fit.
Last edited by John B; 05-18-2025 at 03:44 AM.
Queen is the Primo of this draft. Any team that reaches for him in the lottery are doomed for shame and failure. His game does not transfer at all. He might be worth an early 2nd, but that's it and that's all. Not only can't he shoot from more than 15ft, there are exactly 0 people who think he can in the future. WTF kind of role is that?
Coward's defense is ridiculous. The guy is NBA ready from day 1
Do you think the Spurs would take Coward? And do you think he'll still be on the board for that pick?
6,5.25 With 7,2.25 Wingspan with 38.5 inch Vertical,Weighing 214 Pounds and a very good jumpshot. He's basically a more athletic Herb Jones. Is currently mocked between 10-20. I would honestly draft him before Carter Bryant, Fleming and all the other 3-and-D wings. We really need that type of player and with that wingspan he can easily play SF.
His hype is real and I buy it, but his questions start and end with the level of compe ion. He has basically never faced anyone good. The only good team he played against last season was Iowa and he was bad in this game. So this is where real NBA level scouts have the ability to project wayyy better than us armchair GMs. If he's for real and if his game can translate then he's a fantastic archetype.
No one is going to bring up the fact that he played six ing games this season?
everybody who has done some research on him knows that
Strong James Wiseman vibe. Tiny game sample size, awesome combine showing.
I can tell you haven't watched any tape as usual
I was 1st intrigued by Cedric Coward when I was doing analytics research for this draft class and his name kept popping up. 70% true shooting % is a wtf no way stat for a wing player. I saw that it was a small sample size so I dug deeper. Watched his film. Everything I could find going all the way back to Eastern Washington and a few clips from High School in Fresno. Was very impressed. Started watching every interview I could find. Seems like a good humble kid that is determined to be great. Again very impressed.
The only weaknesses I found in his game is his handles and his feet are a little slow at times on defense. He makes up for the feet with this length and strength. If he develops a handle he could be an all-star level player. Even without it he will be a high-end starter in this league. If his sample size was bigger, he had a better handle and there were no concerns with his shoulder I think we would be talking about him in the top 3 of this class alongside Flagg and Harper even at his age. Worse case he is Danny Green. Best case he is a Kawhi Leonard/Klay Thompson level player.
I’m sure Wiseman had some great tape from his 3 games, too.
Drafting this kid is the epitome of buying a pig in a poke. Even Primo had more game time in a much better conference.
Don’t do it (again), Brian.
It’s a waste of a pick if they pick a small forward, IMO. They need to maximize the time Fox, Harper, Castle play together and so they need to leave the SF spot a little open and not invest too much into it to optimize the trio.
Given that your takes are wrong about 98% of the time this should be a good sign
As much as I like Coward I agree which is why I believe the draft board at 14 will be
Sorber
Raynaud
Lendeborg
Newell
assuming Queen and Maluach are gone. Even then Queen is probably no longer a fit with Harper on board and Maluach is more of a project. I would love a trade back if Sorber is gone.
Taking Drake Powell with the 38th pick and putting him on a two way or locking him up with a small contract for a few years is a move I can get behind. He’s very reminiscent of Sidy Cissoko where “talent is oozing from every pore” and it’s a matter of if he can put it altogether. A kind of pick where you see how he does in the gleague, and then make him earn his contracts (incrementally higher for each subsequent contract). That’s how they need to build the backup spots for Fox, Harper, Castle.
He's definitely somebody I want. Very athletic, good defender, can shoot the 3, enough length for SF. Needs development, but has all the intangibles to become a real 3-and-D player on the NBA level.
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