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I don't think Crookshanks has said anything of that nature in this thread but that picture could very well apply to some Christians.
No, sometimes in certain situations it can be annoying. I am offended by the ass s that say "you will go to if you do not believe" or killed because of there religous beliefs and Every hypocrite out there that throw the bible in people faces when they sin,such as a priest ing a 6 year old.
That is a great point! The bible does say the demons believe and tremble. But Jack - salvation is more than believing in Jesus. You must CONFESS your sins and REPENT - which means turning away from sin. As humans - we still sin every day; but we have the Holy Spirit inside us that causes us to feel guilty when we sin.
So your little scenario is totally false! A person who had truly repented and asked Jesus to be his Savior would not continue a life of sin like that!
However, it is possible that a person could've lived a life of sin like that and then recognized his need of a Savior. If he repented of his sins and asked Jesus to forgive him and to become his Savior, then yes, he would go to heaven when he died. That is the wonder of God's grace! Max Lucado has written a wonderful book on this subject - it's called "In the Grip of Grace". It's a great book. I've heard that Jeffrey Dahmer became a born-again christian before he died - but I don't know that for a fact. That doesn't seem fair from a human point of view, but God views all people equally and all sin equally. In God's eyes, Jeffrey Dahmer's sins are no worse than yours or mine.
So much going on in this thread. . .
To answer the original question, I don't know, but then again no one does.
And has it ever occurred to you (no one in particular)that the God you're following may be the wrong one? Why Christianity and not Hinduism?
I always got stumped by predestination and free will working together.
I hear ya....I hear ya. But I've never said that "you are going to burn in " because I don't judge people that way but I do know some who do I don't like it one bit.
Fair enough.
I've thought about it and you know what....I'm so comfortable in my belief that I don't really care what others believe. I don't mock other religions for I know that they have the same feelings about their religion as I do mine. The majority of my friends are not Catholic but the topic of religion rarely comes up although Mouse has tried to get my goat on more than one occasion about Catholics.
Welcome to the insanity known as religion or are they cults?
A Cult of Personality.
Rock on!!
And if man has free will, why the rush to teach only one religion - whichever that may be - at such an early age? Shouldn't you be taught all of them and choose for yourself?
Religion might die if it wasn't taught to young kids who accept words of authority figures as absolute fact. Seriously, what adult is going to believe a virgin could have a child who was also the child's father?
That pretty much sums it up! Everyone is free to believe or not believe. I have my beliefs - beliefs I would die for; but others choose not to believe. God tells christians that we are to go into all the world and preach the gospel; and that is our job. It's up to God to judge the hearts and minds of all people.
I've said before that I wasn't going to post in here any longer because of the hatred and animosity that has been directed at me for my beliefs. However, as a christian, I can't let an opportunity go by to share my beliefs in the hope that someone will be converted. God says His word will not return to Him void - and we never know who we might reach with our testimony.
So - I have no animosity towards anyone here and I wish no one harm. Everyone is free to believe what they want - and not be harrassed because of it!
Quit playing the victim card here. If I came on here and posted that I believed all ######s should hang because I read it in a book, I would rightly be called hate filled and full of animosity.
As a parent it is only natural to want to teach your child your values and beliefs. I remember one day when things were going very rough in my life..very rough...and my father, having come from the old macho world and did not express much emotion, at least not with his sons...I remember one day telling him that the greatest gift he's given me is sharing his belief in God and Jesus with me. But once we became adults he never, ever preached to us about attending Mass. He left it alone and believe me I'm not the perfect Catholic and he's allowed us to live our own spiritual lives and I will do the same with my children. I'm raising my children as Catholics but they've also attended Baptist, Protestant, Methodist and non-denominational services.
I think that is my biggest issue with religion.
I'm ultimately too science/logic minded to really believe the mythology of any religions, but actually have tremendous respect for those whose faith is strong enough to support those beliefs (admittedly, however, my respect drops several notches when those beliefs are treated as fact). What I've really never understood, though, is the ability to decide that magical fairytale A is inherently more true and believable than magical fairytale B -- pregnant virgins and resurrection make sense, but reincarnation is crazy talk? Doesn't add up, to me.
Victim? Who's playing the victim card? In the past, there have been some really hateful comments directed at me because of my beliefs and I simply said I wasn't going to subject myself to that kind of abuse any longer. Not once in this thread have I called anyone names or been mean and ugly. So I don't get where you're coming from. What does your comment mean?
Agreed.
Plus Jesus Camp was downright scary.
You call telling us the earth is 400 Billion years old your 2 cents?
According to what facts? Please don't pull out the out dated text books the kids have to read in order to graduate. please tell me your not relying on what you was taught in school.but why doesn't it make sense that the Earth is so much older than any of its living creatures?
Are you sure it wasn't 4 and 1/2 or 5 billion years? lets go for 6 Billion to be safe!The Earth formed about 4 billion years ago.I hate to bust your little Darwin bubble but the an average lifespan of a comet is approximately 2,000 years. Halley's Comet is approximately 10,000 years, so if the earth was even One Million years old there would be no more comets left.
But If you still believe that 40o billion bull then I have a 1985 Delorean to sell you it helps you travel through time. You might have to replace the flux capacitor.
Also each year, water and winds erode about 28 billion tons of dirt and rock from the continents and deposit it in the oceans. At that rate, it would take only 15 million years to erode all land above sea-level. Yet most of the land is supposed to have been above sea-level for hundreds of millions of years?
another point:
Over the years, Some scientists have reported various pieces of evidence in the Earth that contradict the fossil record. Seemingly manmade objects have been reported in rocks which, according to geologists, would not have been available to man. To some people, this evidence debunks the entire accepted scientific dating system. The most famous piece of such evidence is the supposed human tracks in the limestone bed of the Paluxy River in Texas. The Paluxy River is known for its large number of dinosaur footprints, but some people believe that tracks from human beings are intermingled with the dinosaur footprints, which would mean that humans and dinosaurs were on the planet at the same time.
Another heads up: dirt samples from the top of the grand canyon and the bottom of the grand canyon was sent off to a lab to determine the age of the dirt, The test reviled the dirt was no older than 6000 years old.
How can the dirt be the same age on the bottom and the top if the grand canyon took millions (according to you billions) of years to make?
also.........We know absolutely for certain, it takes millions and millions of years for fossils to petrify." It’s so obvious that no proof is necessary and of course no witnesses verify. The claim is just repeated over and over. So we hear, "Everybody knows that." Oh yea? How old do you think this boot could be? Millions and millions of years old? I suppose it could be made from T. Rex skin. Do you really think so?
The rubber-soled boot with petrified cowboy (human) leg, bones and all was found in a dry creek bed near the West Texas town of Iraan, about 1980 by Mr. Jerry Stone, an employee of Corvette oil company.
The boot was hand made by the M. L. Leddy boot company of San Angelo, Texas which began manufacturing boots in 1936. Gayland Leddy, nephew of the founder, grew up in the boot business and now manages Boot Town in Garland, Texas. He recognized the "number 10 s ch pattern" used by his uncle’s company where he worked for many years. Mr. Leddy believes the boot was made in the early 1950’s.
You may want to do some more research before you quote some out dated text book.Life first appeared about a billion years later. The first vascular plants (including trees) appeared about 400 million years ago. In the mean time the earth's geography has changed dramatically and animals and plants have been wiped out by ice ages, earth quakes, meteors, etc.
So was Picasso,Einstein, and Galileo, even Bill Gates and Gandhi did jail time. Does it matter if Ben Franklyn was a closet lesbian? Or Alexander Graham Bell liked to talk to lady bugs? Don't try and ruin someones personal life to avoid the facts they have proven to be correct.Also, Kent Hovind (in the video you linked) is a bit of a crackpot.
It helps your cause if you keep the debate punches above the waist.
Ben Franklin was a closet lesbian?
It was a kite...not a .
There is nothing as hate-filled said to you as the garbage you spew, damning everyone who doesn't believe as you do. Just because you're repeating something you read doesn't make it any less bigoted when you're coming on here and arguing it based on your belief. It's so insanely arrogant to act like you have it all right and anyone who believes differently is going to get his comeuppance from your supposed insecure and angry gods.
yes, there is
Even though I never 100% support much due to the fact that I must leave the door open for anyone who can present something that proves me wrong,I must keep an open mind.
I don't 100% agree with everything Kent Hovind says but he does bring up some good evidence and it would be good if you would listen to a few of his speeches.
In this debate he goes head to head with three others.
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